Federal authorities charge white ‘knockout’ suspect with hate crime

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by SourD, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. How many instances of known hate crimes have there been that haven't seen the appropriate charge? I honestly haven't been paying attention to notice an unjust disparity.

    Random as in:
    a) anyone is about to get attacked or b) anyone fitting the description of _____ is about to get attacked? If b, then I agree.

    The thing about hate crime is... if the assailant is quiet, authorities have nothing to go on regarding motive. It isn't until the assailant mentions race, gender, religion, etc. that the charge fits.
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    The definition of 'hate crime' is a pathetic PC attempt to make "certain" Assault Crimes look worse than others. It's preposterous and I plan to write legislation first in the State Senate, then Nationally to strip this handicapped law out of our law enforcement textbooks and allow police officers to arrest criminals without worrying about whether or not its politically correct or not.
     
  3. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    They are worse than others... just as someone who seeks to kill high school jocks is far more a danger to society than a enraged husband that targets his cheating wife. Both individuals are dangerous, and shouldn't be trusted in public... but the scope of danger is far larger for one than the other. Likewise with hate crimes, anyone who targets an entire demographic... whether it be a race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, disability, etc... he/she is much more a danger to society vs. someone fighting another over a verbal dispute.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    This is going on the assumption that said criminal would target the entire demographic. As someone said before, short of knowing what's going on inside a persons's head, we won't know what they're thinking. And even if a group or a person is a racist, that doesn't necessarily mean he harbors destructive ill-will against said "races".

    It's nothing but a PC game, a liberal delusion that's weakened our police force and ironically enough puts those minorities in even greater risk.

    Cut the crap, administer the law equally and without leniency.
     
  5. samiam5211

    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    I'm out of creative ways to say you are ignorant with regard to this topic.
     
  6. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    No. "Entire demographic" meaning anyone that fits the description (any asian person, for instance). Such a suspect is far more a danger to society than someone that targets a specific person for a specific reason (localized to said person). Again, both are dangerous, and shouldn't enjoy public freedoms, but they are not the same.

    Being a racist isn't enough to garner a hate crime charge. It isn't until you act on racial hatred that it would. Hopefully, I'm just reiterating things you already know, and not informing you as to how the law actually works. Hopefully.

    Or, it does none of that.
     
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    It is an act of domestic terrorism and needs to be punished more severely than any normal crime.
     
  8. samiam5211

    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    You don't understand what a hate crime is.
     
  9. RichT2705

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    Why would I tell you that? I said all races of people have experienced suffering....I didn't say Blacks enslaved Whites too.

    Oh thats right, just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up again.


    Another silly statement. Now we are supposed to have a measuring stick of suffering, With blacks at the top, and we can mark each race and decide if they suffered enough to have equality today?

    LOL....only a Lib could believe and post that....

    When someone has endured a past injustice, I don't believe the correct answer is give some to the other guy today. Sooner or later maybe we'll learn what equality actually is.

    As a start, it is NOT watching two guys punch each other in the face and tacking on 10 years to the White guy because of the thoughts in his head when he threw the punch...
     
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    Neither do most other people. Because ALL crime is committed with a form of hatred, loathing or despising another person.

    Hate Crime is a non-existent, PC term to make the most worthless thinkers among us believe they've come up with some kind of solution. The fear was once "The term's so vague, anyone could be charged." Now, the reality is: The term's so vague, very few people will be arrested by it.

    Pointless, pointless law.
     
  11. BestViewedWithCable

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    [video=youtube;YOABBn5Tnm0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOABBn5Tnm0[/video]


    A-G Holder: No Hate Crime Protection for White Christians or Servicemen


    Under questioning, Attorney Gen. Holder was surprisingly forthright in admitting that the hate bill is not intended to protect everyone, or even the majority. He said only historically oppressed minorities were to benefit. This means Jews, blacks, homosexuals, women, etc. Holder made it clear that if a white Christian male, including a serviceman or police officer, was the victim of a violent hate crime by any minority he would have to find redress from traditional law.




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    Yeah, must be a coincidence that almost every single attack has involved black attackers and white victims. Can't be a race game, though, because everybody knows that black people cannot be racist or attack whites due to their race. That's something only white people can do.
     
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    They are the victims for 99% of the knock out games...
     
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    Doubtful. (See the smack game above).

    A hate crime is a hate crime and this guy admitted to targeting somebody based on their race.

    These knockout games will fade away, but the larger issue is the underlying resentment and where it comes from. As long as there will be racial oppression, this resentment will manifest itself in one way or another. The 'establishment' will be a target. I don't see why this would surprise anyone.
     
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    “The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?”

    It sounds to me that the plan had less to do with hate as it had to do with a social experiment. He wanted to know if knocking out an old Black man would make more news as the plague of Blacks knocking out white people. The idiot learned that our US AG can and did take swift action when the hitter is white and the poor old victim is Black.

    This guy will now spend a lot of quality time with this old Black man's sons, grandsons and great grandsons in the federal pen.
     
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    They would fade away if we make examples of those are sucker punching innocent victims. But, the liberal white guilt apologists only want to harshly penalize the white attackers.
     
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    Which bugs you more, his blackness or his incompetence?
     
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    Hmm. I'm a liberal and I don't care for these knockout games. Perpetrators should be punished, of course.
     
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    You want whites to be charged with hate crimes and harsher punishments, but not blacks.
     
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    currently its coming from a racist in the Attorney Generals chair
     
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    A hate crime is a crime that causes fear among an entire group of people. If people are going around attacking everyone with green eyes, then it will cause fear among people with green eyes. These attacks won't cause fear in people with blue eyes, at least not on the same level as it does people with green eyes, because the attacks are specifically targeting people with green eyes. Everyone with green eyes is harmed by these attacks even those people with green eyes who have not been attacked themselves. Because these crimes are targeting a specific group of people, they are not the same as a normal crime.

    You seem to lack the empathy to understand what a hate crime is. Unfortunately for you, and others in this thread, simply failing to understand something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. It just means your ignorance prevents you from realizing that they exist.
     
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    Nope.

    I get how equality seems like racism to those within the charmed circle of entitlement.
     
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    You want special rights because you have white guilt.
     
  24. Gatewood

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    Nah! Most Affirmative Action recipients aren't quite that narrow-minded despite having unfairly gotten air-lifted throughout their entire lives.
     
  25. Pardy

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    Nope.

    Although, with the lack of opportunity that most black people face, I can see why such guilt may exist.

    In 2008, many black people became encouraged when somebody 'like them' became POTUS. However, as the person who posted above confessed, his blackness is offensive to many people. This is racism... it hasn't gone away, and black people are still oppressed by such racists.
     

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