Yeah I know right? I don't trust myself as a mod. I'd have banned you for trolling a looooong time ago. You and several others I can think of. 'Course the actual mods apparently don't think you're a troll so who knows. *shrugs* lol!
Pasithea said, You represent one side...the pro-abortion side. And this is about you....your opinion in this debate. Every time you post...you are displaying your position. I mean everyone knows your radically for abortion. Who do you educate? How can you educate people when you ignore what science says? ARe you biased? I mean this is not hard.....abortion kills. You either are for it or against it. You are for it. You either want abortion legal or you don't. If you want it legal, your pro-abortion, you do not want protection for the unborn. Simple. Do you also fight for late term abortion? I always mention it because it shows the hypocrisy of your position. Its all about the rights of women for you. And then you take rights away based on your opinion on when the fetus becomes human. You do what you say I shouldn't be able to do to women....deny abortion. I don't care how many women would get abortions....in the third term..based on your position, they should be given the opportunity. Don't you think? That is not the point. The point is womans rights. How do you know how many women might want to do it? Is it your business to tell a woman she can't abortion at any time? Come on ......be honest here. I can tell....without even asking, just based on your rabidly pro-abort stance. Your character....I can't address that...there are rules on this forum.
Everyone who comes here is posting their opinion .. problem is for your side is that the pro-choice opinion is the majority. Personally I hope you continue to post as you do, it just shows the intolerance and rabid jihad of the pro-life position
http://www.politicalforum.com/rules.php I educate my friends, my family, and of course those who are reading these boards. I battle against all laws that regulate or limit the right to abort in any trimester. I would be very pleased if there were no laws on abortion whatsoever, less red tape for women to jump through to get what they need done. It's extremely deceptive on pro-lifers part to behave as if the vast majority of women are waiting til the very last minute to have an abortion. Very deceptive and insidious. I am being honest. Like I already said behaving as if women intentionally wait 'til the very last minute to have an abortion is extremely deceptive. No freaking (*)(*)(*)(*) there are rules on this forum. Rules that you skirt around on the regular.
There is no such thing as "the right to have an abortion", not while there is another human being who cannot give his consent to this irreversible medical procedure which is NOT being done in his best interests. The woman has the choice not to get pregnant. Some women think they have the right to dump an abortion onto their baby halfway through the pregnancy.
The fetus has no right to use her body for it's survival without her ongoing consent. Her body belongs to her and she may remove any unwanted entity from it that may cause her serious harm. Pregnancy/childbirth/c-section carries great risk for a woman, if she does not wish to face the risks involved with pregnancy then she may instead face the risks involved with abortion. It is her choice. When you are using someone's else's body for something you don't get a choice. Their body, their rules. Yes, she does have the choice to not get pregnant, but considering abortion requires an already pregnant woman I do not see your point. And so what if a woman has an abortion halfway through her pregnancy? Again, her body, her rules.
Stop shrieking! For the love of God, please stop shrieking. It is painful to the eyes. I do not want to enslave anyone. You forgot once more I am the one who wants no laws on abortion, period. Is that really all you have up your sleeves church? Just keep shrieking at pro-choicers that they want to stop women from aborting in the third trimester? That's it, you've got nothing else to put on the table for discussion?
Pasithea said, I know the rules and I did not violate them. Do you ever attack the messenger? I said, "You represent one side...the pro-abortion side. And this is about you....your opinion in this debate. Every time you post...you are displaying your position. I mean everyone knows your radically for abortion." What did I say that was in violation of the rules? The fact is you represent a side in the abortion debate. There are two sides here on this forum. One for life against abortion and one that supports abortion. You support abortion. How do we know this? YOUR POSTS REVEAL YOUR POSITION. You are a radical...you even when the majority of pro-aborts believe that when viability happens...no more abortion......YOU STILL WANT IT. Your views are radical....extreme left off the chart radical. You are not educating anyone on these boards. LMAO Its the same people the same arguments....over and over. What you do is to share your opinions on abortion. You rarely give any scientific data...except from Guttmaucher and that site is biased. It's extremely deceptive on pro-lifers part to behave as if the vast majority of women are waiting til the very last minute to have an abortion. Very deceptive and insidious. What difference does it make what they do, if you are for allowing abortion at any time? None of your business you said so yourself. I don't know how honest you are...what difference does that make really? Anyone can deceive anyone on here....you are no different. And do you skirt around them? REmember you said you were honest. LOL
Painful to the eyes........LMAO Well you do look at the screen all day...right? No I will never stop showing the hypocrisy of the pro-abort position. I would like to see a discussion between you who is pro-abortion even at nine months...and your cohorts...that think abortion should stop at viability......
I have discussed it with them before, but you're so busy trying to get your "AHA! GOTCHA!" moments that you apparently have not noticed. =/
I have before but I have since then been trying not to. If you check my most recent posts you will see they are personal attack free. But you attack the messenger all the time! "YOU LOVE ABORTION! YOU GET OFF ON IT! YOU, YOU, YOU!" You say this is about me. It is not about me. It is about my opinion and the opinions of everyone here. But it is not about us personally. Stop making it personal. Why bother posting anything that will just be dismissed by the lifers? I have to explain all the time that women own their own bodies, that they should not lose the right to the medical authority over their own bodies simply based on the status of their uteruses. I frequently give a huge list of the risks associated with pregnancy, childbirth and even c-section but it often goes ignored and lifers continue to trivialize the entire reproductive process as nothing more than an inconvenient bowel movement. Women should be free to have an abortion because it is their bodies and their choice and they are the ones who are taking the risk to give the gift of life. You're right, what difference does it make? Why do you continue to bring it up and quite literally harass people about it? It is against the rules right there to continue to harass people about one subject.
"may" cause harm? So if there's a 1% chance the fetus may cause harm, the woman has the right to take a 100% chance of causing harm to the fetus? The fetus is not part of the woman's body. The fetus may be inside the woman's body, and attached to the woman's body, but it is not a part of the woman.
There are permanent side effects to every pregnancy that are 100% there and many women do not wish to have these permanent effects upon their bodies. http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-i...#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm And she makes it even more "not a part of her body" by removing it from her body.
Pasithea said, Well good for you....I am so happy. I do? Don't you love abortion? If I am wrong then please tell me why you don't like abortion? By all means explain why your not only for abortion before 21 weeks....but the entire pregnancy. You said yourself...abortion should be legal and have no restrictions on it. I would call that...being quite smitten with an act that you embrace and want legal. How am I wrong? So you think there is no link to who a person is and what they believe? I would disagree. I think we are what we eat...and we are what we say and believe. And from my life....and experience I believe that most the time I can tell what someone believes on other issues just based on this one. I take this subject personally. But then again I come to it closer than you do. Your on the outside looking in....I am in it....been a part of it. And you will never fully understand this topic, no matter how hard you try. And stop telling me this is not personal....everything about it is personal to me. Usually people who are pro-choice are detatched like you are emotionally..from this. You see nothing wrong with abortion...you want it legal. I about cry every time I think of an unborn being killed. I have seen and felt the horror. And yet I have never seen you once...in all the threads and topics...called one of your pro-abort friends on here...out on their view that they want to deny a woman an abortion after viability? They are doing in a sense what you say I am doing, what other pro-lifers are doing. Why don't you call them out? I call pro-lifers out on things I don't agree...like the rape and incest stipulation? What do I harass people about? And what? Late term abortion? You don't agree that most of us who have been here the longest talk about the same points and issues concerning abortion? Come on, you don't? You know why I bring late term up...as I have said before you are not hypocritical about this...they are. Why don't you call them out on it? They want to deny women the rights to their body. Doesn't that make you mad?
I didn't realize that being in favor of having something legal meant we had to be desperately in love with it. I am in favor of the 2nd Amendment and keeping the right to bear arms, that does not mean I ever wish to own a firearm of any kind and I do not love guns. I am in favor of our government going to war when it has to to protect our country, that does not mean I am absolutely deathly in love with war. I am in favor of executing criminals who absolutely deserve it, that does not mean I get off on criminals being executed. You can be in favor of having something legalized and not be desperately in love with it. Read above. And I want there to be no laws on abortion because I don't believe women should have to jump through hoops just to get a surgical procedure performed on their body, whether it's for life saving purposes or otherwise. Plus most of these pro-life laws are designed to delay a woman from having an abortion as early as possible (the earlier the better, safer and cheaper for her) and instead end up needing one in the second trimester. I think it shouldn't matter what you think of all of us on a personal level. Go ahead and think whatever you like. This is just anecdotal. Please prove it. For all I know you have been lying this whole time about having had an abortion, who are we to take what you say here at face value? Internet anonymity is a breeding ground for people who will lie about their so-called personal experiences. And I have never once seen you call out any pro-lifers on their views on rape, or a certain lifer's views on aborting mixed fetuses or downs syndrome fetuses or for wanting to shove sandpaper up a woman's vagina who had an abortion. What's your point? I don't stalk your posts like a hawk, so for all I know you really have, but I am not going to sit here and pester you about it day and night. No it does not make me mad. Debating very rarely makes me mad at all to be honest. I do it to stimulate my brain and to practice my writing skills actually because I am trying to write a novel (mythological fantasy/fiction before you go making assumptions). Why don't you jump all over your side whenever they take a single step out of line with your viewpoints? Because we are not here to make enemies with people who generally agree with us and support us is why. We are here to debate those who clearly have opposing views with us and even to make friends with some of those people we disagree with. I have made friends with three pro-lifers that I can think of. I strongly disagree with their views on abortion but hell, two of them I think are absolutely hilarious people and the other has great taste in TV shows and movies and we get along just fine outside of this forum. You may think that people can never get along just because they hold one opinion and all I can say is many of us are living proof that you are wrong on that. One political viewpoint does not define an entire person's personality or show anything about how they choose to live their life.
Exactly! If you shot someone because they had a 1% chance of attacking you , you would not be allowed to walk free. You would be charged with an illegal homicide.
Doesn't that depend on who is making the judgement of the percentage chance involved, and the comment you are responding to doesn't actually offer any evidence that the figure is 1%, it is a figure pulled from the ether, would someone be charged if it was 10%, 25%, or 50% .. who gets to make the decision of the level of threat posed? Hypothetical scenario; It is broad daylight, I am walking home when in the distance I see someone walking towards me, they are carrying what looks like a gun .. suddenly they raise the "gun" and point it in my direction, I draw my gun and shoot them dead .. It is only later I find out that the "gun" was in fact a water pistol they had just brought . .would I be prosecuted?
