Feds Creating Database to Track Hate Speech on Twitter

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the New Left McCarthyite Era...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and people are doing it voluntarily, it's not the government, it's Facebook... lol, ho would of thought
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama did no such thing
     
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    1984 was a book, sorry.

    that said, hate groups need monitored.

    I can just see what Repubs will say if a Hate Group attacks and the Govt knew of them but didn't monitor. They would blame Obama...

    Facebook and Twitter are public domains, not private thus I see no wrong doing with monitoring.
     
  5. dairyair

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    Don't really know. Go off the grid so to speak.
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    Trying to change the subject from hate speech to threats eh? Come on, it's like you liberals aren't even trying to defend your hypocrisy!


    How were you right all along? You guys opposed the Patriot Act right up until you took control of government, then suddenly the Patriot Act was cool.

    By the way, we're engaged in air attacks in Iraq right now. Where are all the anti war protesters? I guess when it's a liberal war it's A OK/
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Right. Facebook seized to exist.
     
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    What I don't grasp is why Feds have to pay almost 1,000,000 US$ to a University for what an IT student can do for 1,000 US$ .... mysteries of policies ...

    A part this detail, which would be the final goal of such a project?
    I'm Italian, I've got a profile on Twitter, let's imagine that I begin to talk in a bad way of ISIS ... is that hate speech, or the "hate speech" exists only if I talk bad of America, Democrats in particular and US allies?
     
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    I'm not sure if you are deliberately trying to mislead or if you don't really understand the issue. We're talking about "hate speech." That's a moving target of opinion that is based on the eye of the beholder. I imagine someone could define stuff that you've "publish[ed] in a format that is digital and captured forever" on this forum as hate speech depending on their own opinions. And conversely, it could happen to me too.

    Eh.... the more I think about, the more I think you are deliberately trying to misdirect the topic. That seems to be a lefty trend on this thread.
     
  10. Tahuyaman

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    So, living like a hermit is the only alternative?
     
  11. FreshAir

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    I still don't like the patriot act... I am not surprised though that once republicans gave the President that power it will never be given up without a legal fight
     
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    I did no such thing, their monitored and the minute they threaten to kill someone or harm someone, that is when the police need to do MORE then monitor


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    No... the legislation had a termination date. It wouldn't still be in force if the Democrats hadn't renewed it. It didn't just take off on it's on. They actually had to submit a bill to save it.

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    The funny thing is, we both know that's not what this is about, but you feel like you have no choice but pretend it is anyway.
     
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    well I think it's easy to not pout hate speech on out there in the public and that is what really is being monitored and I suppose embarrassing if you every wanted a good job or something, cause not just gov is looking, but so are employers, ect....
     
  15. Tahuyaman

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    You don't get the point here. Do you think it's beyond the realm of possibility that a government agency, like, let's see... the IRS, or NSA would target those who make comments which simply disagree with a current administration? Have we ever seen anything like that in the past, either distant or recent? Could an administration define "hate speech" as simple political disagreement? As far fetched as that seems..... Oh, not as far fetched as one might think, huh?
     
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    probably. Go digital less. No cell, no computer, no credit card. Or don't do things illegally digitally.
     
  17. dairyair

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    Don't think. I expanded. You spout anything digitally, it is recorded. Hate speech or love speech.
    Not all hate speech is in the eye of the beholder. I think some is stated in laws.
     
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    Short answer to all you questions is YES. But only 1 party complains about it at a time. The party not in power. When in power then the other side complains about it. Partisan are a weird bunch.
     
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    How about the general population? Do they count? Does it count when private citizens who belong to no political party are concerned about the government seizing even more power?

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    So, just live life like it's still 1950 and you're safe?
     
  20. dairyair

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    No. The 2 parties have screwed the entire population. Unless we can rid ourselves of the 2 party same side system, we are all doomed.

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    safer. never entirely safe. As long as the folks let govt get more power. But if you live like the 1950s, there are less ways of your daily life being recorded. And I don't mean gov't is doing all the recording, many companies are doing it. But eventually the gov't could get their hands on it.
     
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    So, when joe sixpack out there is concerned about government collecting data on the citizenry and abusing that info, you dismiss it?
     
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    then don't put hate speech in the public realm, a rouge irs employee can search Facebook as easy as anyone else

    a gov database is tracked and we know who has accessed it, face book we have no clue

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    the patriot act was a power given to gov, just cause republicans only wanted a Republican to have that power was ridiculous and we could of told you from the start the gov would never give that power up without a legal fight

    this is about the gov fighting terrorism... it's public information, that the people themselves choose to make public


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    hate speech is often defined as unpopular speech..... but it's not.


    But hate speech HAS to be protected even more vaimantly than popular speech or else eventually, the only thing you will be allowed to say is popular opinion.



    Westburo baptist church speech must be protected.... not because I agree with them or what they say, but if they aren't allowed to say "God hates Fa gs" then it won't be long until a person is not allowed to say "I believe gay is a choice"


    The only end point that a govt needs a database for is for use when they have enough power to lock it down.


    Hitler didn't immediately put the jews in concentration camps when he took power in the early 30s. He documented them first, found out where they were, THEN he made his move.
     
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    but can't keep track of their own emails..... lol..... When the backup database is finally sorted out and there is egg on the face of the democrats because it was clear Lerner was told to target Teaparty groups.... I look forward to watching you avoid and not post in those threads. lol



    that's the claim.... "for terrorism.... for your safety...... trust us, we'll never use it in order to give the IRS a list of people to audit that made a golf meme about the POTUS"
     
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    the IRS scandal is a creation in the republicans mind.... nothing more...


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