Feds Creating Database to Track Hate Speech on Twitter

Sheesh you're trying to pull the same thing as FreshAir. Once again, the issue is you are pretending that the "government" somehow got this power and the "government" isn't going to give it up and there's nothing anyone can do about it. That's just nonsense. It's a specific actions by Congress and the President; not "the government." The issue is the hypocrisy of your side opposing a series of powers that you guys have quietly extended, and then pretending Obama didn't have anything to do with it, nor the Democratic House and Senate in 2009.

 

I would regard that as an ignorant statement. Those laws didn't extend themselves. Acting as if they did is trying to cover for elected officials. Next thing you'll be telling me that Obama isn't responsible for targeting American citizens for assassination with drones, the "government" is responsible.

 

The law already defines hate speech.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hate-speech/

Do you have a problem with the legal definition?

The real problem appears to be that "social-conservatives" know that most hate speech originates from the "extreme right" and that the most inaccurate political statements are made by the "right" and they don't want anyone to be informed about it. It's almost unbelievable how much stuff is made up by "right wing" posters on this forum for example. I'm always amazed by how much BS the right lays down as "arguments" expecting people to believe it just because they say so.

Of note "my side" is not in power as I oppose both Republican and Democratic political agendas.

We can also note that collecting information that is public does not violate anyone's Rights which is why, as a card carrying Libertarian, I don't oppose it.

 

partison talking points.


at one time, MLK was deemed a hatespeech.

 

There's no pleasing everybody. Disciplinary action for so called "hate speech" is a clear violation of the First Amendment. What's so free about speech if I can be potentially jailed for something that MIGHT have offended someone? I guess we all may as well be mutes, because we might anger or displease somebody.

 

Really? Please provide a link to any MLK speech or public statement that met this definition of Hate Speech:

I'm waiting for you to back up your statement that MLK ever resorted to hate speech in anything he ever said.

 

Documenting hate speech does not imply any disciplinary action so why introduce pure BS and another right-wing conspiracy theory into the discussion?

Of note inciting a riot, one of the possible criteria for hate speech, is a violation of the law as inciting a riot is not protected speech under the First Amendment.

 

It's not entirely difficult to put two and two together. Right or Left has nothing to do with it. Why would the government just document and nothing more? Sure, you'll hear their bogus excuses as to why. All you have to do is follow the trend of history, and see that this system will sure enough corrupt and yet more innocent people will be punished and/or imprisoned. It's not a path we want to go down.

 

definitions of hate speech are dependant as to who is in charge, or what the status quo is at the time. Unpopular speech is often dismissed as hate speech because noone likes to hear it. And not many liked hearing what MLK had to say in the 60's

 

I provided the legal definition of Hate Speech so show me where anything MLK stated met that definition.

The fact that racists might have stated that anything MLK said was "hate speech" didn't make it hate speech so please provide a quotation that establishes that MLK engaged in hate speech or simply admit that it was racists making false claims.

You know, sort of like the racists today that claim that "liberals" are the ones predominately engaging in "hate speech" when we know that almost all "hate groups" are extremist right-wing organizations.

 

Information itself is very valuable so unless a person wants to be ignorant (which is apparently want Republicans like to do as they reject science so readily) then gathering the information itself is valuable. It's like tracking racial prejudice and discrimination. If we don't do the studies then we don't know how bad the situation actually is.

Knowing the depth of the problem is a worthy endeavor in and of itself.

Sorry but actually being knowledgeable about a problem does not result in "innocent" people being punished. It could result in guilty people being punished but not the innocent. For example today we have laws that address "hate crimes" and those that are convicted under these laws are never "innocent" people. They commited some act of violence or aggression against another person and they are guilty as hell.

 

Except someone affiliated with them is probably tracking down IP addresses and putting names on a special list...

 

In the coming decades people are going to learn about the true extent of government inteference into the lives of Americans. This will go beyond simply discovering a database tracking twitter post. We've entered the era of big data, where it is now possible to track, catalogue and locate potential threats to the goverment long before they actually occur. The databases that are being created are only a front end, what you will begin to see is the governmant act on the information they recieve, even using it pre-emptivley in situations where no actual crime exist. What we are seeing today is worst than Orwells greats paranoid fears. We are seeing the beggining of what will be the transformation of everyday Americans into enemies of the state based on the analysis of information that comes from the internet. I'm writing this today as a warning to everyone who thinks that the web still affords any monecum of anonimity, it does not exist anymore.

Because of this people really need to begin watching what they say and their behavior on the web. Using it as an outlet for frustration, anger, or to voice opinions you would not want public is a mistake, one that can and will carry consequences in this new environment. You can see examples of what has occured in previous years, people have gotten knocks on the door from the secrect service for things as simple as facebook post, some of them not even actual threats. Certain arms like the NSA only exist to monitor potential threats, the key word being potential, they don't really need anything solid to justify kicking in a door.