Final Arizona audit results show 20,000+ ballots with issues but they are not a smoking gun.

Why did they make the statement in the first place and not the "may be", so the statement of fact that they ARE does not stand up to the report.

It's not my claim go look for yourself.

 

No, absentee ballot. What makes you think mail in votes in Az weren't absentee ballots? Or covid relief related ballots.
You just assume it points to fraud. That is part of the big lie of a stolen election.

No evidence their were actual double votes. Another part of the big lie of a stolen election. The election commissions which contain both parties certified their election results.

I keep repeating it because some in this thread keep repeating the things the big lie references and without evidence.
The Az audit should end the talk about the big lie of the stolen election. You keep brining up those issues. Why keep repeating them?

 

The big lie is Joe Biden

 

I have not heard that one before... """""Or covid relief related ballots."""" When you can't win the argument change the words and wording

 

I don't care what they are, they need to be investigated as to WHY and what can be done to stop, if you object to that oh well. It's not about just this election and whether Trump won he DID NOT, got that now? I don't care about this BIG LIE you keep harping about. Certifying the results is NOT looking at fraud that is a specious argument. There is PLENTY of probable cause for how their elections are being run here.

 

Stop what?
Certifying the results means the rules were followed, the ballots were legit and counted as correctly as possible.

To claim otherwise is just supporting the big lie of a stolen election.

 

For shock value and they are inexperienced with election audits. They make the statement, but nowhere in the report do they validate this with any sort of data concerning same last name/birth year. I wouldn't take their stance on what the rate of common names are if they weren't experts in the field or have actual data to support it.

 

FYI the audit confirmed Biden won.

 

The audit not claim he won.

 

Just over 1 percent of voters who cast a ballot in the 2020 elections may have moved since — a figure well within the normal range of the share of people who change residences in a given year.

Garrett Archer, a former top aide in the Arizona secretary of state’s office who now reports for Phoenix’s ABC affiliate, told The Hill that the official data maintained by the county would have answered questions raised by the commercial data — but that Cyber Ninjas did not take that step.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573888-five-takeaways-from-the-arizonas-audit-results

The audit was done extremely bad and in a partisan manner. It's a made for RW tv audit. With little to no real facts.

 

you are so wrong about so much so often

And as CN repeated several times... the Maricopa county refused subpoenas...etc

 

They refused to hand over routers because those routers have sensitive information and contain the layout of the entire counties network. No way are you going to hand those over to an unaccredited agency. It would also cost $6 million to replace those routers while in CN's possession. Who is going to pay that $6 million? CN? Nope.

 

Voting out of state or after moving isn't necessarily a discrepancy, depending on the circumstances


For example, people can vote out of state if they 1. own multiple properties in multiple states. 2. are out of state for job related reasons, can include being stationed to a particular location under military duty. 3 living out of state while attending college 4. Have moved out of your parents home, but are still voting from their address, 5. recently moved within a time window that does not require you to re-register. Donald Trump would fall under the category of examples 1 and 2, he moved to Washington DC for work related reasons, but voted by mail with a Florida ballot. Legally he had the option to vote from Washington DC, New York, Florida, or anywhere else he owned property that he could register as his residence. Ultimately the company who conducted the audit didn't have access to the private information of the voters in Arizona to determine if they fall under any of these examples, so we're left to only speculate

Voting from multiple counties would be a discrepancy, however the information that this is based are examples of people who voted under the same name and birth year. Which again, the auditors themselves did not have access to the voters' private information to determine if these were in fact the same people, or if these were different people with the same name and birth year. Note that this 10,342 number is actually based on the entire state of Arizona, and not just Maricopa county (hence the number being based on multiple counties). Arizona has over 7 million voters overall, so it is not out of question that there could be many people with names like Joe Williams or John Smith with the same birth year across the state. This is another example where we are only left to speculate, since the auditors don't have the evidence to show that these are not different people with the same name.

With the 9,041 more ballots returned by voter than received, it is phrased a little different in the report. What it says is "9,941 mail in voters show returning more ballots than they were sent". Indicating if there was a discrepancy, it would be on the end of the voter, and the discrepancy would be directly linked to the specific voter. However, county officials have suggested that the file sourced by the auditors in this claim suggests they were not looking in the proper place to get an accurate number on the overall number of ballots sent and received. They suggested that their numbers were conflating mail in votes and early in person voting.

With the 2,592 more duplicates than original ballots. I am actually unfamiliar with this claim, I know there were somewhere over 17,000 duplicate ballot, which is a practice used when a ballot is too damaged to be tabulated by machine, and the auditors said some ballots had serial numbers used to link the duplicates to the original ballots that were either placed in a position on the ballot that was difficult to read, or outright unreadable/missing. I do not recall them saying there were more duplicates than original ballot however

Overall we do expect there to be some discrepancies on the end of the voters, the question is were the election officials properly able to identify them, and determine whether or not there were any ballots that should not be included in the tabulation. If voters were sending in multiple ballots for example, the election officials should be able to identify this when the mail in envelope is first scanned. If there were issues with duplicated ballots and the serial numbers used to identify them with their original ballot, this would be a discrepancy on the end of the election officials, the question is what would be the proper course of action for them to take when this occurs. The common answer would be to discard the vote from the official tabulation. We do know that there were some ballots which the auditors decided should be excluded from their own own count, and the final result was Joe Biden leading by an even larger margin than what was tabulated by the county officials

 

Routers contain no data other than internet activity.