Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

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  1. AlifQadr

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    TOG 6, at the beginning of my input of this OP, it was made plain and clear, my view of arming teachers, as well as concurrently and subsequently with other posts where opposition to teachers being armed was made clear.
     
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    You do need to define where you fear the dangerous might be coming from before the question have meaning.
     
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    Odd as there had been case after case of unarmed citizens being gun down by officers and I assume that police officers need to pass psychological testing.
     
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    Thanks for playing.
     
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    None of this changes the fact you choose to ignore the question I asked, in reference to a statement you made:

    It is irrational for a teacher/student to fear being shot while in a school?

    Well?
     
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    And in most of those the shooting they where justified by the threatening actions of the person being who was shot, bottom line, when a LEO has a gun pointed at you, follow orders.
     
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    Footnote at least two of Florida counties school boards had block arming teachers including the county that contain the parkland school.
     
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    The definition is clear for anyone who bothers to consider the law that was enacted, it's a shame you didn't figure that out.
     
  9. BillRM

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    Yes indeed you can tell that to the parents of young unarmed children that are gun down by police an coming soon by teachers.
     
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    And a majority of Florida's 67 county school boards adopted it.

    And lets not forget the Broward County School Board in collusion with the Broward Sheriff's Department diverted (laundered) money earmarked for hardening schools into funding a diversion program designed to prevent youthful offenders from having criminal records, the same program Cruz (the Parkland shooter) was diverted into, but failed to attend.

    Had the BCSB followed through Cruz could have very well been in a detention center, versus walking the halls of MSD killing children.
     
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    Young unarmed children do not walk the halls of a school shooting children, or is that something you cannot understand?
     
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    Just because the gun grabber side is interested in using force to disarm the 2A advocate side doesn't mean that pro 2A advocates are interested in making you carry a gun against your will.

    I took a liberal to the gun range yesterday and now they have a love for shooting, I saw it in her eyes. She also has a new revolver. ;)

    If you separate a liberal from their ignorance of firearms, a pro 2A citizen usually emerges.
     
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    By the way, the program has already been in place in a number of Florida counties for almost two years and none of you Chicken Little examples have happened to date and considering the vetting one must go through to enter the program, it very unlikely it will ever happen.
     
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    Odd that the starting point for many of those who dismiss the idea of arming teachers is someone who has never seen a gun, or someone who doesn't even want to be armed. Reality is that many teachers are CHL carriers already, some have participated in IDPA competitions for a number of years and have far more experience with their firearms than the police do. I'm advocating for letting those who already carry firearms in every other aspect of their daily life to do so on campus.

    And there is some kind of weird "teachers are precious" narrative that is coupled with a "teachers aren't smart enough to recognize a situation" thing going on. Really weird.
     
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    Some towns in Texas have had armed teachers for more than 5 years already... So now what?
     
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    Let me see I think it was in a Florida school that have a teacher/cop accidentally discharging his weapon into a classroom ceiling resulting in a minor wound to one of his students.

    After checking it was a CA school system.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...as-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.ca13c1fbf813

    Then we have another teacher this time in GA discharging his firearm out a window for no known reason.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/georgia-dalton-high-school-teacher

    Full schools up with guns and soon you will have innocent people being shot either by misjudgments or by accidents.

    I keep thinking of the old tv show title 'all in the family' where the idea was to arm all passengers as they board a plane to stop hi-jacking but that show was not mean to be taken seriously.
     
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    Re: Dalton High School teacher. "The teen said Davidson had said he did not agree with Trump's proposal to arm teachers." Seems he did it to show everybody how bad of an idea it was to arm him. Democrat logic I guess.

    It seems as if you perceive teachers to be bumbling buffoons... ?
     
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    LOL sorry I have three handguns and one shotgun and CC license an I do not wish to have arm teachers in our schools.

    Accidents do happen for one thing around guns. I still can remember being out in the woods three decades ago shooting my 1911 colt when this idiot walk right in front of my line of fire!!!!!!

    After putting my gun in a safe up position I curse wildly. It would seem he did yell to hold fire to the shooters but he did it in Spanish not English and as a result I could had killed the fool.
     
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    Full schools up?

    Really and you expect to be taken seriously?
     
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    As must as you do with you wish to place millions of school children at risk by arming teachers.
     
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    As must as I do?

    Maybe to put down something and get a clearer head.
     
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    Pro- and anti-gun types come in all shapes and sizes. My concern is that some districts will pressure teachers to carry as a cost saving measure.

    Most people are reasonable, pro- and anti-gun.
    We have a gun range within walking distance. A lot of friends are members. The range is on a half section where nearby 6000 sq. ft. lots go for $800,000. The range is a nonprofit co-op owned by the members. They'd be millionaires many times over if they sold to developers.
    Sometimes. We have a handgun problem in our inner cities and I'm not sure how to deal with it. I don't think we can gun control our way out of it, but some limits on who can legally carry may be part of the answer.
     
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    I hate the idea of going as far as the UK when it come to firearms but if the gun nuts keep blocking some reasonable limits that might to the way we will need to go after the body count at the schoolhouse doors get ever deeper.

    Just love it that we do not trust anyone under 21 to buy a damn can of beer but we do for the most part allow an 18 years old to buy most types of firearms.

    For one thing there is zero need for super large gun magazines.
     
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    We have a handgun problem, especially in our cities. I think we should license people to carry in cities and forget about the suburbs and rural areas. Now, what do we do with people who carry without a per it in cities?
     

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