Former CIA director: Trump's news conference "nothing short of treasonous"

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  1. Curious Always

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    It was said best during the campaign: Clinton and Obama lie like politicians; Trump lies like a three-year-old.

    By any objective measure, Trump's lies are off the charts in terms of quantity and scope.

    It's like you want to pretend that Obama telling a lie and Trump telling 5,000 lies are somehow morally equivalent. They are not.

    Further, when Clinton or Obama lied, I would actually call them out on it. I criticized Clinton, for instance, for some of her self-serving statements about her emails. I criticized the way she and Bill handled their foundation.

    You, on the other hand, support the biggest liar in American history. You NEVER call him out for his lies, but then ou want to criticize people you don't like for lying. It doesn't work that way.

    Either get a moral compass, or just stop trying to condemn other people for lying.
     
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    In fact he called for the executive branch to revolt against the elected president - a coup.
     
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    On Monday's broadcast of MSNBC's "All In" Contributor and former Whatagate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks stated that Trump's appearance at Helsinki "will live in infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor sneak attack or Kristallnacht."

    Wine-Banks stated that the perpetrators in Watergate were Americans and that in 2016, “we were burglarized, this time, by foreign agents. And it’s just as serious to me as the Cuban Missile Crisis, in terms of an attack, or the 9/11 attack. The president is taking the side of the people who attacked us instead of trying to prevent a future attack. He has done nothing to make sure that the elections four months away are going to be safe. And I would say that his performance today will live in infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor attack or Kristallnacht. And it’s really a serious issue that we need to deal with.”

    1984 is finally here. These dumb-asses have no sense of scale at all.

    If it is that serious, as MSNBC portrays, it calls for an immediate declaration of hot war with Russia.

    "Of course not. Donald Trump is a patriot. He’s an American patriot and his job is representing his country and he’s doing that to the best of his ability just like I represent my country Australia to the best of my ability.

    I think he’s doing exactly what he said he’s seeking to do, he believes it’s better to talk to people and to engage with them and again this obviously has been highly controversial in America and I don’t run a commentary on Australian politics let alone American Politics." Malcolm Turnbull, PM Australia

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...rupts-over-russia-claims-20180717-p4zrxk.html
     
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    WHAT'S NEW ABOUT BETRAYING THE US TO A FOREIGN POWER?

    The only thing new about this most recent betrayal of American interests to a foreign power is that its' not betraying the US to Israel.

    Why are so many Americans suddenly so concerned about a foreign power manipulating America's elections & infecting the highest levels of US Government when the Israeli lobbies and the 40 Congressmen who are Israeli citizens have been doing just that for 70 years?

    Influential Israeli lobbies have ensured that only Israeli - American "Dual" Citizens can hold Congressional offices & have consistently sacrificed thousands of US lives, countless $ Trillions & America's strategic interests for Israel & there's not a whimper of outrage from MSM.

    Suddenly when a US President grovels before a leader who is not an Israeli, the MSM outrage is deafening.
     
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    Listening to all the rhetoric from both the right and left, I wonder what they actually expected to hear from Trump as he sat across from Putin. I understand the deranges lefties because there is absolutely nothing Trump could have said that would quell their intense hatred for him but that aside, did anyone expect Trump would look over at Putin and call him a fricking tyrant and we will get even with you for messing with our elections (even though the US meddles in elections in most countries with which we have an interest) so never close both eyes at the same time.
    Trump could have chosen better words but his future actions will tell the tale. I still subscribe to the theory "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
     
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    Brennan is a patriot and he is ringing the warning bell that something is deathly wrong.
     
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    If Trump is afforded no allowance to operate within the zone of diplomacy when meeting the leaders of foreign countries let's just declare war now and get it the hell over with, win or lose, live or die.
     
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    You do make a valid point. My retort is that we should always take a consistent position on this type of treasonous politics.

    Trump won many votes because he promised "America first". But his actions are clearly the diametric opposite of what he pledged. So where is the objection from the far right? In fact, their silence is equally deafening.
     
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    MSNBC is just a corrupt Fake News organ for the corrupt ruling political establishment.

    "Whatever your views might be about Jill Stein and her third-party candidacy, there is no disputing the fact that Nance’s statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Jill Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT. What Nance said was made up out of whole cloth – fabricated – in order to encourage MSNBC viewers to believe that Stein, one of the candidates running against Clinton, was a paid agent of the Kremlin and was an employee of RT."

    THE INTERCEPT, MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics. It Encourages and Rewards Them., Glenn Greenwald, July 8 2018.
    https://theintercept.com/2018/07/08...party-critics-it-encourages-and-rewards-them/
     
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    Funny how Republicans claim to be the ''get government off your back" types. That is unless it is the government police who, as far as they are concerned have unlimited license to harass the hell out of you.
     
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    I suggested that to one of our usual suspects last night and was met with silence. These people are beyond insane and I suspect is is because they are slowly coming to the conclusion there is no blue wave so its now full tilt boogie insanity. A couple of years ago I found it frustrating, then it became pitiful, now I consider it nothing but great humor.
     
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    Are you sure?
     
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    Trump should have just pushed a Big Red Reset Button.
    He would have been nominated for a Nobel prize. ;-)
     
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    Is the same dude that lied and used deception with congress and the public?
     
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    It's nothing close to treasonous, which is what you're all trying to call it. That's throwing sh*t to see what sticks.

    What the hell has our intelligence dept done? They've taken several mass shooters off their watch list, they've failed in the Hillary probe, they've found nothing in the way of collusion between Trump and Russia. Nothing dude.
     
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    As you and I and most of working Americans know, There is NOTHING Trump could have said or done to make the butthurt lefties acknowledge a Trump success.
    The internet was full of obama leaning over to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and tell him he will have more flexibility, or hillary with her "reset" button, but that will all be ignored in the blind rage coursing through their veins. The democrat party has become Thelma & Louise heading toward the cliff.
     
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    Think they needed puppies and crayons over the last election, just wait until Trump is reelected. We'll have to open adult daycares all over the country.
     
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    Trump's opposition is just a Hate Rally. Ordinary Americans have no use for that sort of nonsense.

    “The Trump era has given rise to a vast alternative left-wing media infrastructure that operates largely out of the view of casual news consumers, but commands a massive audience and growing influence in liberal America. There are polemical podcasters and partisan click farms; wild-eyed conspiracists and cynical fabulists. Some traffic heavily in rumor and wage campaigns of misinformation; others are merely aggregators and commentators who have carved out a corner of the web for themselves. But taken together, they form a media universe where partisan hysteria is too easily stoked, and fake news can travel at the speed of light.”
    THE ATLANTIC, How the Left Lost Its Mind, Polemicists, conspiracists, and outright fabulists are feeding an alternative media landscape—where the implausibility of a claim is no bar to its acceptance. MCKAY COPPINS JUL 2, 2017.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/liberal-fever-swamps/530736/
     
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    Republicans who support crooked cops have always been low scum.
     
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    Any one that supports crooked cops is!

    Doesn't matter your affiliation
     
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    fyi, tell that to the commanders at the battle of midway, just to start.

    again, trump supporters are shameless and unpatriotic.
     
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    Correct. The corrupt ruling political class is very bipartisan.
    Crooked Democrats and crooked Republicans are the beast with two heads.
     
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    100% TRUTH
     
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