Fox: It's Extraordinary That Charleston Church Shooting Is Being Called a Hate Crime

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    When the founders wrote the 2nd Amendment, the word "regulated" didn't mean government regulated/controlled. It meant organized and not just an unfit group of guys raping and pillaging everything.
     
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    Has anybody found it kind of strange that Dylann Roof's manifesto doesn't once mention Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox News, Republicans, GOP, NRA, gun, 2nd amendment, etc...

    There is nothing that ties this crazed whacked out person to the right.

    But what I find quit interesting is that under patriotism he says "I hate the sight of the American flag."

    That sounds more like someone on the left who steps on or burns the American flag.
     
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    Yep a wacko with distinct leftist tendencies as clearly he hated his own nation and the U.S. flag.
     
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    He says the thing that showed him that he needed to do this was the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens. A white supremacist group endorsed by Fox News personality Ann Coulter... Are you kidding me? You can't tell whether he is liberal or conservative? Anyways, his friend described him as "very conservative", as did many others. Duh.
     
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    Hated the U.S. flag. Hated his nation; he is a leftist. As a matter of fact if he were to go on record as to hating God, he would win the leftist ideological trifecta.
     
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    There is no way even you honestly believe the obviously idiotic things you're saying. Get it together.
     
  7. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    You obviously don't understand what the words "well regulated" meant back then. It meant "well functioning", not government controlled or oversight...

    History: A Drafting and Ratification of the Bill of Rights in the Colonial Period
     
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    Cool talking points mixed with dust of crystal ball and irrelevant filler.
     
  9. JWBlack

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    Diminish?
    Your emotions aside, you can't treat the racism but you can treat the addiction or mental illness.
    Providing of course treatment excludes psychotropic prescriptions without supervision.

    #notrocketscience
     
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    Just because the organization has the word "conservative" in its name doesn't make them conservative and or adored or approved of by true conservatives.
     
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    You never answered by earlier questions of what new laws would have prevented this.

    Well?? What new laws would have prevented this????
     
  12. tuhaybey

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    Of course it is conservative. All white supremacist groups for like 40 years now have been conservative, but certainly one that puts "conservative" right in its name, and which is endorsed by Ann Coulter herself, is conservative lol. Again, he's waving a Confederate flag. He's pro-apartheid. He's a white supremacist. What don't you get?
     
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    Maybe he's just an anarchist nut who represents an insignificant portion of the country? Unless you think all conservatives hate black people and wave old defunct flags, which makes you MORE insane than him.
     
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    No, definitely not all conservatives hate black people. But, yeah, this guy was clearly right wing. His friends describe him as very conservative, he surrounded himself with right wing symbols, all the influences, websites and organizations he mentions respecting and following are right wing, etc. And, while all conservatives certainly aren't white supremacist, virtually all white supremacists are conservative. Some, as you note, are anarchist, but he clearly isn't- he fetishized government imposed apartheid and law enforcement for example.
     
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    There's a photo of him on the HuffPo site where he is burning an American flag and.........horrors.............wearing a Gold's Gym shirt. Silly libs won't know what to make of that shirt!
     
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    Here you go. This is how the phrase "well-regulated" was used back then.

    Try replacing the phrase "well-regulated" with "government controlled" in the following usages and tell me if they still make any damn sense. Now replace the phrase "well-regulated" with "well functioning" and tell me if they make sense.

    It is apparent that you have no clue what you are talking about and have no understanding of U.S. history.
     
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    I doubt anyone really believes this isn't a racist hate crime - disappoints me that neither "side" can just accept that there are some loonies in their camp.
     
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    I think that much should go without saying. The current outrage on the side of liberals is that some conservatives were saying that this appeared to be an attack against Christians, even though from what I have read and heard.. that was a fair opinion at that time. Now it is obvious of the shooters intentions after allowing the speculation to settle and the witnesses to be heard. This is an undoubtedly racist attack, to which every conservative outlet and broadcast that I have seen says that. Including the primetime Fox News line-up (O'Reilly, Kelly, Hannity).

    If there were any doubters even after the witness testimonies, then they should have been convinced with the release of this guys "manifesto".
     
  19. Pred

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    He's way more an anarchist than a conservative, sorry. Every conservative I know has kids, a job and supports family values. This kid was a loon. Sorry, but if you think Conservatives support hating black people, Democrats must support Nazis. Hey, fair is fair if you want to play the crazy game. Connecting this guy with the RIGHT WING is playing political games and that sh1t has to stop. Might as well connect Mexican drug cartels with Liberals because HEY, they both want drugs legalized and isn't that enough=)
     
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    Er, what lol? Why would Democrats support Nazis? Where did you see me say "Conservatives support hating black people" anyways? You don't seem to be reading very carefully lol.
     
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    First they're stupid. Secondly they're mentally ill. Thirdly Dems act like Nazis. Anything else?
     
  22. Pred

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    You called the shooter a Conservative or Right wing. He nothing but a crazy nit but Liberals are quick to label h even though Liberals apparently hate labels and stereotypes. Hypocrites.
     
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    Uh, no, he is an openly right wing white supremacist. He made a whole website about it lol. Have you not seen the news for the past couple/few days?
     
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    Nah, just a complete loon. Not representative of any normal right winger, unless you think Black Panthers are an average Left Winger? Are Black Panthers your average Left Winger who hate white people and think Jews need to leave the country? Don't recall people on the right, burning the American flag, but lefties do it all the time.
     
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    Oh, yeah, he definitely isn't representative of the typical conservative, but that doesn't change that he is a conservative. Hard core. In fact, that is a big part of how he differs from the typical conservative- he's obviously way more socially conservative than the average conservative is.
     

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