From Militant Atheism To Christ

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scroll up, kid. Religion is a tool, not the end goal.
     
  2. Durandal

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    That's a lot of baseless assertions you're making there, kid.
     
  3. dairyair

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    I thought you claimed you were old. Why the child like post?
     
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    Another child like post. Wow.
    Where have I ever said I was an atheist.
    You are on a terrible losing streak.

    When you go back to discussing as an adult, we'll see if this can continue.
     
  5. Max Rockatansky

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    Again, scroll up, son. You look silly jumping in half-cocked.

    Interesting that you believe people don't anthropomorphize God...or were you so quick to blast me that you didn't think your post through?
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

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    Awesome. Thank you for the ad hominem. Enjoy your wine, m'am. [​IMG]
     
  7. Durandal

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    You keep speaking of "God" as though it existed, and you are even making claims about its nature. What, pray tell, on the previous thread pages would alter these facts?
     
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    Again, scroll up. God, "the Force", the power behind creation, it's a placeholder title for an unknown power just like Higgs boson was given to a particle even before it was known to exist. However, you are free to assert your militant atheism for as long as you wish. Most outgrow it, but not all.
     
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    By that definition, "God" is virtually meaningless. I wouldn't even place it in the realm of atheism, since atheists generally reject theistic claims made by their fellow man, not the "God" of physicists, which amounts to a rhetorical device or, as you say, a placeholder.

    Militant atheism is taking the rejection of theism to a more proactive level, advocating against theism (and usually other such belief structures in general).

    Interesting claims and choice of wording here..
     
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    This is also interesting. You make a claim that "God" is all-knowing. Being all-knowing implies the existence of a mind. At times you call your god an unknown force, yet here you give it the attribute of "knowing" things - indeed, "all" things.

    This is a positive claim based on no apparent evidence.
     
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    Where did your god come from?

    Whatever answer you give to this question, I, as an atheist, can give for the existence of the universe.

    :)
     
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    Perhaps you're under the impression this contravenes what I said?

    Yeah, that looks swell on paper, but it strikes me as utterly vacuous as juxtaposed against evil as it manifests itself in the real world.

    If He created man in His image, perhaps that's not nearly the problem you think it is.

    So?
     
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    and of course that would more support reincarnation then one life to live... I mean think of all the miscarriages in the world that would be denied that experience
     
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    including a God that creates everything after popping into existence
     
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    No idea. Awesome that you have it all so wired together.
     
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    Western man believes in a "ceramic" model of the Universe. I favor the "organic" model as described in the link below. Those who believe in a ceramic model tend to believe in souls, reincarnation and fixed identities of people like your description of miscarriages. I believe there is a deeper connectivity to it all. Nothing is lost and we're all part of it. When we die, we lose our identity by becoming one with the greater whole.

    https://truthaparadox.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/three-models-of-the-universe/
     
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    You obviously believe evil is a force. I do not.

    I do not take the Bible literally. It contains great wisdom, but it was also written by a bunch of desert nomads then, in 325AD, a bunch of white guys with a religious agenda cherry-picked which books would go in the Bible and which would not.
     
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    Agreed. Same for militant theists. Each goes from the level of their beliefs to the level of forcing their beliefs upon others. I think that is both wrong and immoral.
     
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    Will read that, here is another

    "3-year-old recalls past life and solves his own murder—‘I even know where he buried my body’"

    http://www.ntd.tv/inspiring/life/3-...rder-i-even-know-where-he-buried-my-body.html
     
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    no way to know for sure

    per your link, think they need a option four

    we have a life force, but the physical world is separate, kinda like a car and a driver, your physical life is also restricted by the vessel your confined too
     
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    Agreed. OTOH, among my psycho studies was "Fourth Force" psychology, which is mostly the paranormal wing. No evidence of paranormal has been found, just a lot of questions. The one thing that was in the Fourth Force area which was moved to the Behavioral area was Biofeedback.
     
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    OK. I don't think it's at all wrong or immoral to challenge the claims and beliefs of others, none of which I construe as 'forcing' beliefs on others. Forcing, to me, would mean trying to institutionalize one belief and ban another.
     
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    Actually, what I believe is what I said.

    There's no need to repeat yourself for my sake.

    If that's the case...

    ...what does it matter who wrote it?
     

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