From Paul Manafort to Donald Trump’s fateful phonecall

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who supposes that he broke any law?
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Start?
     
  3. PARTIZAN1

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    Just because he got a lot of money from a foreign company does not mean that he did anything wrong. What did he do wrong? What laws did he break?

    Your so called " factoids" do not amount to a pile of mosquito schiest.

    Where there is smoke there is fire you say that means there must be as much smoke, fire, and other indicators of evil doing coming from the current WH as there was from the volcano Krakatoa.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    You seem to imply or insinuate that almof the time.
     
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    I don’t think anyone seriously claims Hunter did something illegal.
    His dad, though, did obstruct justice by getting prosecutor general fired for investigating the company that had Hunter as a board member.
    Joe Biden deserves real prison time for that.
     
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    Ok butvwas he using Coke at the time? I see that Coca Cola Corporation did not offer him a seat on their board. Think of the commercials..."It's the thing.....". " We want to teach the world to snort.....in perfect harmony". Or think of that old old picture of Santa Clause taking a coke break......
     
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    Children of rich people tend to do blow and spend outrageous amounts of money in night clubs.
    I used to work for an event promoter, I know personally what some of these people do. Would you blow $20,000 in one night on booze at a high end night club? I wouldn’t. And you know who was pissing money away like that? Usually kids of rich people, because rich people who truly earned their money know the value of it.
    The owners of these venues were saying if they found out their kids did the same thing they’d kill them.
     
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    Joe The Joe delivered the message from several countries obviously the US included and the EU and the IMF that Shokin the Soviet era trained so called prosecutor was not doing his job. Shokin was not investigating nor was he prosecuting anyone. Shokin was nothing but a useless POS who was protecting corrupt oligarchs and corrupt officials including corrupt military officers.

    The Brits tried to get the owner of Burisma for money laundering but got no help from Shokin or any corrupt Ukie prosecutor.

    Biden Sr. did deliver the message about getting rid of corrupt prosecutors but he made a dumb mistake by acting like Trump some time later. Biden bragged about his exploits as many pols do but hey Trump brags about stuff he never did except when he gave Turkey permission to commit genocide in Syria.
     
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    Hey of course you are correct about the rich kids. Especially the neuveu rich ( new rich). Look a the kids and "royalty" of the oil countries. True that those who earned their own money do control their excesses much better.

    Hey it's like those of us who came from other countries we had to work a little harder for the Amerikanka Mirya (Dream.) but that made us stronger.
     
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    Arch Stanton said, "I get it....no matter what a lefty does, it's okay because the law doesn't apply to Democrats."
     
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    It's truly incredible. The only thing more so is liberals attempting to defend it, Call to investigate it? Im peach foty fi!
     
  12. LafayetteBis

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    If it's a quote, put it in quotation with identification of the source.

    Like I just did above ...
     
  13. LafayetteBis

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    "Seem" is insufficient proof of guilt.

    Besides, this is a DEBATE Forum. If you can't take the to-and-fro then you'd best leave it ...
     
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    Come on.....why keep posting the same rubbish when you know it has been posted here a zillion times that Shokin's investigation into Burisma had been inactive for 12 months before Biden Snr clearly leveraged US aid to oust Shokin. Why would he do that? Why poke the bear who had left Burisma (Biden Jnr) alone for 12 months...if there was anything to hide?
     
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    Did you know that Shokin served for only 13 months?
    Your “shelved for 12 months” out of a total service of 13 story doesn’t make sense.
     
  16. LafayetteBis

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    IT'S ALL IN THE NUMBERS

    What "American Dream"? Close to 15% of all Americans live below the Poverty Threshold of $25K a year for a family of four. That's about the population of the state of California (40 million).

    Perhaps you are some migrant who has come from a dirt-poor hell-hole somewhere in Eastern Europe or India, but that does not make you a good-judge of what is happening today in America with its Gross Income Disparity - one of the worst of any supposedly "developed country".

    Income Disparity Chart (from here):
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    You need to inform-yourself about Income Inequality. Start here:
    One chart that shows how much worse income inequality is in America than Europe

    From the above link:
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    Western Europe has adopted what economists call "Social Democracy", which is defined as (from here):
    Which defines accurately the difference in the two-charts above demonstrating Income Disparity in both the US and the EU ...
     
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  17. LafayetteBis

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    You are GROSSLY MISINFORMED about the Prosecutor General in question at the time. He was under orders from the PM to NOT INVESTIGATE OR PROSECUTE ANYONE AT BURISMA.

    Direct orders from the then PM who, having lost reelection fled to Moscow where he still lives very comfortably and does not dare return to the Ukraine where he will be incarcerated ...
     
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    Well, here ya go. Yes, you are right, but context is important. Read, from Wiki:

     
  19. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please link any document when you cite it ...
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "JUST THE FACTS, MA'AM¨*

    A resumé of what we know from Business Insider: A Ukraine gas company tied to Joe Biden's son is at the center of the Trump-whistleblower scandal

    *Am I the only one to remember this refrain from Joe Friday in the Dragnet-series of long ago ...
     
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  22. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saying "Wiki" and actually linking-the-document are two every different acts.

    Duhhhhhhhhhh ....
     
  23. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And so?

    Make your point!!!
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rudy is being Rudy.

    He's been "like that" (a Replicant ass-kisser) in NYC politics since the get-go.

    Which makes him no different than anyone else that "works politics and politicians" - and especially in NYC (the same place Donald Dork comes from) ...
     
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    The problem is that citation #25 is from a news article from New York Times from 9/22/2019.
    I do not find it credible.

    Besides, claiming that he was fired for taking it too long to investigate Burisma is an oxymoron.
     

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