From the Founder of Planned Parenthood

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by stretch351c, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You'd think if she really wanted to be rid of them she would have been in favor of abortion, but she was not.
     
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    Now I see .. conspiracy theory.

    Could say the same for the pro-life, they shout and scream about abortion .. but the long term plan is to create a second tier of people in the country, ones that can be exploited by the few.

    Not saying its happening .. but it must be considered.
     
  3. Kranes56

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    Yeah, racism. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
     
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    The point is that radical socialists like Sanger try to manipulate society to somehow make it 'better' and wind up somehow being able to rationalize away horrendous behavior like targeting a particular racial group because she ASSUMES they are 'feeble minded.' It really goes beyond racism and falls into the psychotic category.

    Psychopaths are perfectly capable of looking like kind, humane, sane people but are very shallow emotionally manifesting in a lack of empathy, reduced fear and a whole laundry list of other disorders that may or may not apply depending on the individual.

    Oh by the way, Sanger represented the ultra rich. John D. Rockefeller donated 5K 2 separate times and the Rockefeller family continued to donate to her for decades.
     
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    Have you studied Sanger in depth and read all her books and such? If you have not how can you much such extreme judgments about her personality and life?

    We can all read little out of context snippets of what she said and did, but unless you have studied fully into who she was and what she did and read everything she wrote in context you can hardly be accurately judging her character.
     
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    Yes I have read extensively about Sanger and everything I posted is true. I believe her intentions were good however, her socialist foundation led her to make broad-brush judgements about blacks. That is why I told another poster that I didn't think her motivations were racist. In her eyes, blacks were having too many children and the children were suffering. Her solution was the popular study at the time which was eugenics.
     
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    Would you like me to start reading the White Man's Burden now?
     
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    Well at least you have actually formed a well versed opinion about her rather than just jumping on whatever propaganda you have seen like so many here seem to want to do.

    The woman is long dead now and as far as it goes and eugenics doesn't seem to be coming back, so long as people keep screwing whoever they think is "hot". lol
     
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    PP has been soliciting blacks...here

    The revelation a few weeks ago that Planned Parenthood employees had encouraged telephone donations from callers hoping to facilitate abortions of black babies — money that was "offered" from members of an anti-abortion group at UCLA — led to a quick apology from the family planning organization. Planned Parenthood said its employees made a "serious mistake" in encouraging the donations.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348649,00.html

    OK so you don't like FOX...here is another

    Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.

    http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html

    Like I said, Sanger thought blacks were mentally inferior. She was a socialist. She aligned herself with the ultra rich and political figures and leveraged to get legislation passed to legalize contraceptives which she intended mainly for poor blacks. It is eugenics and PP is the national mega organization that provides counseling, medical exams, contraceptives and abortions. She may have died a long time ago but her idea of eugenics has lived on down through the decades.
     
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    Why would you want to do that?
     
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    So I could show you what "people" were considered subhuman.
     
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    OK but why? My post was about Margaret Sanger and her penchant for limiting the birth of black babies because of her socialist beliefs. Why do you feel you need to show me what I already posted about Sanger?
     
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    Sanger didn't think in terms of racism. Her goal was to try to limit the births of the 'feeble-minded'.

    The people who were considered subhuman and feeble minded, were Africans. We're just arguing on the same side of the coin.

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    Sanger didn't think in terms of racism. Her goal was to try to limit the births of the 'feeble-minded'.

    The people who were considered subhuman and feeble minded, were Africans. We're just arguing on the same side of the coin.
     
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    My point is that when one tries to institute wide-spread socialist policies there are always unintended negative consequences. In this case racism was/is one of them. Sanger may have not thought she was being racist but now, decades later, blacks are still being aborted by a higher percentage rate even though contraception is readily available. PP has become the standard-bearer of eugenics under the new banner "women's choice."

    Through the decades government policies have taught US that "women's choice" is a good thing. Now we have generations of people who do not recognize the fact that blacks are still being subject to eugenics.
     
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    Are you saying socialism led to racism?


    1. It is a good thing.
    2. Blacks suffering from Eugenics? This is getting hilarious now.
     
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    I was specifically speaking of Sanger who was a socialist who believed that she knew best what blacks needed. You can make up your own mind.

    Do you think it is 'funny' that black babies are aborted at a much higher rate or, are you a dupe who buys the 'women's choice' canard?
     
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    What relevancy does her being a socialist have?

    No, what I find hilarious is the conspiracy theory you're making up.
     
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    Try reading my posts and try to come up with a relevant query. I have no patience for those who ask questions I have already addressed.

    Again, read my posts, I never mentioned a conspiracy, stop projecting.
     
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    Anyone in particular? You mention socialism, what relevancy does it have? You say African American babies have a higher abortion rate. Why does that matter?
     
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    Again Krane, you can read my posts and answer those questions yourself. I am not going to waste my time re-posting. I believe we are done here.
     
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    1. It's Kranes. Not Krane.
    2. I'm looking, I'm looking and no reason to mention socialism.

    "My point is that when one tries to institute wide-spread socialist policies there are always unintended negative consequences"

    Her being a socialist doesn't matter. This type of thought was common. Everyone back then was a racist, no matter how you try to look at it.

    And if you're going to quote something from "Blackgenocide.com", you might want to readjust your tinfoil hat.
     
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    Yes 'that type of thought' (socialism and eugenics) was indeed common as I ALREADY mentioned. I also proved that it continues today with the social programs that are named 'pro-choice' with the data showing that blacks are the most frequent flyers. Did you even read the links I posted? Tell you what? If you want to continue do some research and post links supporting your POV...whatever THAT is.
     
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    And you have still yet to establish how socialism is important. She thought the Africans were inferior. This is racism. Socialism, has nothing to do with this.

    Want to know why I called it a conspiracy? Because this isn't the first time I've heard this argument. And so my answer will be the same. I do not care. This isn't some sort of government conspiracy, this is individual women making individual choices. So I say let them use their freedoms.
     
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    Blacks were thought to be inferior at that time and it wasn't considered racist. Sanger's SOCIALIST policies resulted in the reduction of more black babies. She also felt that the handicapped, mentally ill and racial minorities where inferior. But...go ahead and call it RACISM so...what we have is RACISM being promulgated by the socialist elite for the 'good of all.' This is one of the many failings of socialist policies.

    I see...So if you hear something more than once then all of the sudden it is a conspiracy? Come now. Yes she was an individual SOCIALIST woman who was clever enough to leverage herself into a political power. The problem here is SHE WAS WRONG!!
     
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    Not too shabby a plan. As long as their partners are as well I see no problem with it. Keeping bad stock out is always a good plan.

    But just make sure you prove it first. Because when you get it wrong, everybody with a set of testes will be hunting the enforcers.
     

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