Well, as I said, how do you know that this is correct? Cuz Obama hasn't had his crew tamper with this? Don't you realize that entire scope of federal govt. being suspect is the point of our objections? If we thought there was an untouchable area of govt. we could depend on, we'd just go there to get our facts. Hello??? Hello???
Of course. It's just one big conspiracy. All the folks at the BLS are in on it, and they convinced all the people at Gallup to join in on it to. You might have better luck here: http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/
Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey Series Id: LNS11300000 Seasonally Adjusted Series title: (Seas) Labor Force Participation Rate Labor force status: Civilian labor force participation rate Type of data: Percent or rate Age: 16 years and over Jan 2009....65.7% Workforce participation. Sept 2012..63.6% Workforce participation. Workforce participation has been on a steady march downward along with the unemployment rate. I fail to see how more and more people giving up looking for work is some sort of economic success for Obama. An slowly increasing share of of a rapidly declining job market is a train wreck, not progress. Obama's big problem for November is the 20+ million people who are unemployed/underemployed. Their ranks continue to grow. There's Obama's October surprise, 582,000 part time, no benefits jobs. Precious few actually believe the economy is improving much more than a stagnant malaise. Purporting the economy is improving by the reduced unemployment rate while not counting all the folks who have given up looking is purely laughable. That type of BSing can only be gotten away with things that don't affect peoples everyday lives. All the Liberal twisting, turning and spinning can't alter the reality of the economy people live every day. It's that glaring fact that will have Obama packing for Chicago in January.
No, but his Department of Labor does! We see how things work. When the Seals do something noteworthy, like shoot Bin Laden, then that's Obama's doings. But when the Department of Labor cooks the books, then Obama didn't do that! It's amazing, no..make that disgusting, how the left can take and reject the credit/blame depending on how it makes Obama look. Gallup or BLS, it doesn't matter. We are not close to producing he base amount of jobs (150,000) it takes to just break even. The books are being doctored.
yes, if we give him credit for being president, we have to accept all the moronic RW conspiracys that they come up with.... like how he wouldnt take responsiblity for his fake birth certificate lol
Why not take your talk of birth certificates to another section of the forum? I'm sure it would be more welcome there. What we have here is the Department of Labor caught in a big fat lie.
He is commander in chief of the military, hence he has direct tie and role in anything they do. BLS is very different and has always been seen and is today as non political. At least by sane people lol.
No one disputes this. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is a division of the Department of Labor and is run by Obama political appointee Hilda Solis. If it's seen by "sane people" as non political (which isn't true, of course) it's because these people have not bothered to ask themselves how unemployment numbers can go down when we aren't even reaching the number of jobs created each month just to break even. Lol.
Jeez, how many people can say the same wrong thing? Mass ignorance? Gallup is not part of the BLS. It's like you just mention a key word like "unemployment" and the pre-canned talking points coming spewing out, regardless of how irrelvant to the actual topic.
Is there a "conspiracy" when sympathetic poltical allies give each other cover? That's an interesting question but since the raw numbers don't work any better for the Gallup corporation than they do for the Department of Labor (in helping a flailing president right himself) I'll leave it to you to decide what the relationship is between the Gallup people and the Obama administration. The main bullet point is the numbers can't add up. It's a propaganda fail for president Sugar Daddy.
Here comes the fabrications already. OK, so in your world Gallup polling is part of the great Obama conspiracy. What "raw numbers" do you think those might be that "don't work any better for the Gallup corporation than they do the Department of Labor"?
I was very careful NOT to call Gallup part of a conspiracy. Did you fail to note this? I'm sure a sharp guy like you knows that there is a minimum number of jobs we must gain every month just to break even (let alone, make an actual reduction in the unemployed percentages). 114,000 new jobs, as reported by the BLS, is NOT that number! I suspect you know this all already and I'm not about to cite a source (so you can ruthlessly attack the messenger) but let me just state that this infromation is all over the internet. The raw numbers are no mystery. The real mystery is why a partisan hack like Hilda Solis, knowing that the BLS numbers would become public to everyone, would launch this amateurish ill conceived "October surprise" when we can merely look at how many new jobs are being reported vs. how many jobs we know must be produced in order to create a net downward treand in unemployment rates. Why Gallup would jump in to put their arms around this Big Lie is their business but in a profession where reputation is eesential they must be gambling that no one is going to call them on their duplicity. That's another horrible bit of bad judgement.
So why would you be you blathering about the Department of Labor when this thread is about the Gallup unemployment rate. I see. Gallup is not part of the great Obama conspiracy that the BLS is, Gallup is just putting its arms around the Big conspiracy. Glad we got that straightened out.
This is so stupid. Liberals did the same thing with Bush in 2004. Let me ask all you tinfoil hat cons a question: do you really think the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT really has the ability to orchestrate a conspiracy across multiple Government bureaus and now Gallup? Occam's Razor my friend.