Gender confusion a symptom of borderline personality disorder

you're assuming that gender identity is 100% biologically black or white.

just like sexuality, it may not be.

 

Insanity is a legal defense.

Where did you study psychology?

 

Sorry Ron, the chromosomes make it that way. If you have a normal karyotype, normal genotype with a normal promoter gene you are what you are. Anything else is insanity.

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Transgenderism is also insanity.

 

Transgenderism isn't a charge. So it wouldn't be insanity.

 

It's pure insanity.

 

Insanity is a plea to criminal charges.

 

See, this is how I can tell that you don't know anything about psychology, but you think you know it all anyway.

Being trans is not a delusional disorder. It does not entail any persistent and irrational beliefs. Transgender individuals are entirely aware of their birth sex, they just don't like it. Nor is it a body dysmorphic disorder, because it doesn't respond to SSRIs.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you try to pretend that you do.

 

I think people jump to conclusions too quickly.

 

Really? I can count chromosomes. I don't like that I don't look like Brad Pitt at 24 either. Schizophrenia is a genetic disorder. So is this one.

 

In that case, surely a dispositive test for the disorder would be pretty easy to devise. Map the genes, see the condition. But, like schizophrenia, there is no such test. Each is diagnosed by interviews with the patient, and by matching behavior up with a general list of symptoms, not all of which may be exhibited.

Schizophrenia cannot be entirely genetic - one identical twin can suffer it while the other does not, and about half the time one identical twin shows the symptoms, the other never does. It runs in families, but not that strongly. Two schizophrenic parents have about a 10% chance of having a schizophrenic child.

I think the comparison with schizophrenia is apt. In both cases, genes are a contributing factor but not enough of a factor to devise a genetic test.

 

So you are saying there is no specific gene but possibly several genes associated with transgenderism? That is fascinating. How did you come upon this concept.

 

Unlike schizophrenia however, it's treated with genital removal rather than just popping a pill.

 

While all of the above determine your physical gender, they do not determine your mental gender .. Mental gender is determined after physical gender and can be greatly influenced by variations in certain hormones during brain development ergo it is in fact something a person is born with. The wide level of variations in these hormones is what leads to the wide spectrum of levels of homosexuality or not in people.

a lack of testosterone during brain development will result in a feminine brain ergo a physically male gender fetus can (and does) develop a feminine brain and vice-versa ie a female gender fetus can develop a masculine brain if there is to much testosterone present during that brain development.

So while homosexuality may not be a genetic issue it is certainly something that no homosexual can actually do anything about, it is hard wired during brain development.

 

Mental gender is a fantasy manufactured by liberals. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I suggest you actually research the subject before making comments you cannot defend, but I suspect no matter what you research you will instantly dismiss anything that does not adhere to your preconceived ideology as "a fantasy manufactured by liberals."

Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience - (Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF.) - Sexual hormones and the brain: an essential alliance for sexual identity and sexual orientation. - Abstract - The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation. - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19955753?dopt=Abstract

Sex-related variation in human behavior and the brain - Melissa Hines - Abstract - Male and female fetuses differ in testosterone concentrations beginning as early as week 8 of gestation. This early hormone difference exerts permanent influences on brain development and behavior. Contemporary research shows that hormones are particularly important for the development of sex-typical childhood behavior, including toy choices, which until recently were thought to result solely from sociocultural influences. Prenatal testosterone exposure also appears to influence sexual orientation and gender identity, as well as some, but not all, sex-related cognitive, motor and personality characteristics. Neural mechanisms responsible for these hormone-induced behavioral outcomes are beginning to be identified, and current evidence suggests involvement of the hypothalamus and amygdala, as well as interhemispheric connectivity, and cortical areas involved in visual processing. - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951011/

 

THAT is all hypothesis and not fact. Nothing proven.

 

And YOUR hypotheses, equally well documented of course, are....?

Do you have any actual studies showing that "Mental gender is a fantasy manufactured by liberals. Nothing more, nothing less"? Without so much as a fig leaf for support, your bare prejudice is showing and all the world can see it.

 

I can count chromosomes and I could care less what you think.

 

Translation: Nope, no sources at all. Pure bigotry all the way down. We don' need no steenkin facts around these parts, eh?

 

FACT XY is male. XX is female. Case closed.

 

Once again, I will ask you about the people whose chromosomes are XXY. And once again, you will run off, tail between your legs.

 

We aren't talking about them are we? Not normal karyotypes. We aren't talking about phenotypically ambiguous are we? We aren't talking about Kleinfelter's or Turner's Syndromes. You don't even know enough to blow weak BS. Spare me.

 

Why do you evade the question? Remember, you said "case closed". When I showed that it is NOT closed, you change the subject. As usual.

Apparently we are. Not all ambiguities are visible at the chromosome level, though some are and you run from those.

You have run away without answering yet again. But wait! You left the case open!

 

You changed the dialogue by trying to sub in genetic abnormalities. You don't know enough basic genetics to carry on a serious argument.

 

And you dismiss all biological variation as a fantasy. Your ignorance is willful. Personally, I have no idea what the detailed symtoms are, or what causes them. But in my case, I'm open to accepting that they MIGHT be real, MIGHT be biological, and MIGHT matter. I don't wave them away for ideological reasons as you do.

Meanwhile, you knew perfectly well your "closed case" wasn't closed at all. YOu told a fib. Shame on you.