Gender confusion a symptom of borderline personality disorder

ok, so you want to just rant against Liberals, rather than discuss the issues.

i won't enable you. adios.

 

I believe some people are born transgender, as in their brain developed in the opposite direction of their body.

The problem though is that a medical condition is being diagnosed with psychological tests only, not hard medical evidence - increasing the margin for error. This is why people like Bruce Jenner shouldn't be celebrated, since there's a high probability that they just suffer from other mental illness or confusion and were wrongfully diagnosed, or simply "doctor shopped" until they found a shrink who'd approve them for surgery.

 

Physical gender, not mental gender.

 

Neither is it proven that your assertion is fact ie that "Gender Confusion" is "a symptom of borderline personality disorder" but of course anything and everything that questions your rhetoric utterances MUST be denied.

BTW, it is polite to quote the person you are responding to.

 

FACT XY is physically male. XX is physically female . .both of which have nothing to do with hormonal effects during brain development that are set ergo people are born that way and there is no amount of drugs or therapy etc you can give a person that will change it.

The brain contains the 'essence' of who we are, the physical aspects of a persons body cannot change how the brain perceives that person as being. If that person is born physically a male, yet the brain has developed with greater feminine hormonal influence then nothing is going to change that persons thoughts that they are female.

Its like saying being left-handed is a choice

 

Wrong, it's the pure insanity driving the process.

 

Little sound bites with no substance are nothing more than wilful denial. I'd suggest actually doing some research but that would be pointless as it might actually mean you have to think.

 

Psychiatrists and psychologists get diagnoses wrong all the time and later reverse them.

So it's totally possible that many people suffering from a psychological disorder like BPD have been wrongfully diagnosed as transgender, had hormone therapy, and eventually their genitals removed, and are now scarred for life with no way to reverse it.

 

People don't typically make the mistake ofgetting a sex change. They have to be fully committed for that.It's a long painful process.

 

Of course it is possible "A" person has been wrongly diagnosed for years, but to claim ALL these people have is asinine at best. Do you even know what the process is or do you think you order a transgender change like you order a Big-Mac at McDonalds. Let's see how educated you are on this and let the class know what you think the process is.

 

Occasionally you see kids who believe they are a particular animal. Really believe it, and get upset when someone fails to acknowledge it or tells them otherwise in dismissive terms. This is a known phenomenon, and while rare, is very real to the child involved. I've never seen a single case of medical and familial 'support' of the delusion to the point of indulgence. There may be measured and limited indulgence during transition (or treatment) out of the delusion, but it's never indulged through to adulthood. How could it be, even if this was the desired outcome on the part of tame medicos and family? And it hurts, to hurt a child by continued refusal to indulge. No parent enjoys that.

Easier to support human shaped delusions, than chicken shaped ones, and far far less work and pain than the long road out of delusion.

 

Except of course there is no actual biological evidence to support that a person can be an animal other than human, where as there is biological evidence to support that a person can be born physically a male yet have a female mental gender or vice-versa.

you can ignore that evidence as much as you like it will not just simply disappear because you want it to.

 

Well I am not so sure there is a delusion involved with transgenderism. In your example a child thinks he is an animal, obviously that is a delusion. In the instance of transgenderism they know they are the sex they are. If they accept that reality can it really be called a delusion, regardless of whether they wish to be something else or insist they are mentally the opposite sex? I would think not.

 

My question for you is very simple and thus I would like an equally simple answer.

What is it that concerns you in any way, what someone you do not know and never will decides to do with their own lives and bodies?

 

What concern is it to you if a mom injects botox into her 5 year old daughter to make her look presentable at beauty pageants?

What concern is it to you if people try to promote anorexia, or self-harm, or self-amputation as a "normal alternative lifestyle" or "identity"?

If a 13 year old wants to start chopping off his limbs, why not just let them? Let the kids be kids! /sarcasm

 

Why is it most people can only handle single line absolute slogans?

Gender is unquestionably a chromosomal fact. That is why it is absurd to allow men to complete in female athletics.

Social gender identity and roles is not a biological fact, it is a psychological and sociological matter. Chromosomes don't dictate whether a person wants to wear pants or a skirt.

There are many potential causes why a person wants to have their body physically altered to being the other gender than their chromosomes or otherwise wanting to be the other gender. While a psychological deviancy from norms, whether this is harmful to the person or not is a subjective and individual evaluation matter - not a generic slogan one way or the other.

 

Never considered this possibility. It's definitely an interesting take.

 

the sense of animal self is as misplaced (biologically speaking) as is gender self when out of sync with biology. ie, BOTH are mental constructs ... that's the point. it's insanity to indulge either ... both can be carefully managed and treated. the reason the treatment usually works in the animal id is obvious. it's pretty hard to function in society if you're a human shaped chicken. conversely, the reason treatment doesn't always work (and is often not even tried) with gender id is that it CAN work in society - albeit with some difficulty. biological evidence of mental constructs? harrumph

and again, no sympathy at all for the poor dear men who are upset that they can't use the ladies bathrooms. the arrogance of those who think the world ought to accommodate their little delusions is spectacular, and dismissed as per.

 

I probably didn't explain it well. The kids who manifest this 'delusion' DO know they're not chickens or whatever, but the pervasive need to be identified as such (by themselves, and by others) overwhelms all. It is essentially the same thing as gender id issues.

 

You cannot change the very structure of your brain .. you do know there are marked differences between male and female brains don't you?

I'd suggest actually doing some research on hormonal influences on fetal brain development but that would require you to actually do some thinking above and beyond your bias.

 

Who said anything about chickens?

 

I don't think Transgenderism is associated with Borderline Personality Disorder.

 

here you will get complete answer... http://whatispersonalitydisorder.com/

 

The medical and psychological professionals involved have a deeply vested interest in agreeing with those paying them many thousands of dollars to agree. In the very same way they have a vested interest in never saying to an obese person "you're massively fat, and will die if you don't stop eating". And the same way they opt for Ritalin for kids whose parents are desperate not to be the cause of little Timmy's poor self-discipline.

And I can't agree that it's an interesting question. It's merely sad, just as any other badly managed psychosis is. Though I will grant you the growing horror of parents enabling little kids to fester in the disorder by pandering to it, is interesting in a criminal sense. Such people are morbidly fascinating. I'd quite like to see every one of them arrested for child endangerment.

 

Seeking psychiatric care for themselves would be advised, also. In fact I would submit it's more important than they child's need for same. After all, they've done something to bring about this disorder in the child, and thinking they can 'fix' it via hormone blockers and/or surgery is deeply insane.

The first order of business if a kid fancies himself in a dress is distraction. Our job as parents is to correct anything which might lead to problems later in life. This is no different. Don't give him the opportunity or encouragement to dwell on himself. Keep him busy, and remember to respond to him in a dress in as amused a tone as you would when he dresses up as a chicken. Keep reinforcing that it's just pretendies .. TODAY. Tommorow's pretendies will be firemen, or a giraffe ... etc. There is no need to go nuts on reinforcing his boyness, as that too is the very sort of overweening self-focus which is extremely unhealthy in childhood. Just keep him busy, active, and distracted.

Childhood is so magical primarily because we are not self-absorbed at that age. Our focus is OUTWARDS, not inwards. Encouraging young kids to be introspective by pandering to these - almost always passing - fantasies is an appalling thing to do. No wonder they end up so depressed. Further, if parents reinforce that little Timmy is indeed a girl (because he says he is at age 4), yet he sees boy every time he uses the bathroom, he's going to be even more depressed.

I quite literally despise these enabling parents. They are self-interested lunatics.