Germany's armed forces must become the best-equipped military force in Europe, says Scholz | DW News

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  1. Tofiks

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    So, you don't know where these "Nazi Militias" killed the people and how much they killed? Also, you don't have UN report, about which you talked? And you expect, that others will believe you on the word?

    How Kiev "regime" can occupy territory of its own country?
     
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  2. Ethereal

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    Direct quote from the founder of the Azov battalion:

    "The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen."
    --Andriy Biletsky


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html

    Why do you support Nazis?
     
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    I don't support Nazi's like you support Russian Nazi's. I support a free Ukraine of which, unfortunately, less than 2% of its citizens are Azov white supremicists. Everyone knows that White Supremacy is extremely rampant in Russia where Black people are unable to ride public transportation without threat of physical harm or can shop in any stores or even just plainly walk the streets without threat of physical harm. No matter how badly you spout Nazi this or Nazi that, in Ukraine, a Black person has more freedom in Ukraine than in Russia. In Ukraine, Africans from Africa travel to attend Universities in Ukraine, but not in Russia. Being the Russians attacked a free nation and slaughtered innocent people, the Russians are the true Nazi's here regardless how you spout Russian Nazi Propaganda right out of the Russian playbook. FYI. Azov does not represent 40 million Ukrainians.
     
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  4. Ethereal

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    They killed them all across eastern Ukraine, primarily in the Donbas. Asking for the "exact location" of each death is just stupid.

    No, I expect that others will just believe whatever lies they are told by their governments no matter how much evidence they're given. It's clear you have no interest in the truth.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/death-toll-...-conflict-says-un-rights-office/29791647.html

    By sending armed thugs to the area to terrorize the people living there.
     
  5. Ethereal

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    You do support Nazis. You support the corrupt regime in Kiev. You support stealing resources from western civilians and funneling it to the Nazis fighting for the regime in Kiev. You support pure evil.
     
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    You do support Nazis. You support Pure Evil in Adolf Hitler. You support stealing resources by invading free countries and slaughtering innocent civilians in a land grab. You support an extremely corrupt regime in Nazi Russia.
     
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    I haven't sent a single dollar or bullet to Russia. You, on other hand, support taking billions of dollars out of western economies and funneling it to a corrupt regime that has thousands of violent fascist thugs serving in its military.
     
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    Or what I learned in college. And I rarely watch any kind of war films at the theatre or on television.
     
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    The CIA is not remotely that powerful or competent.
     
  10. Ethereal

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    And who told you that? The CIA? Or just one of their many mouthpieces in the media?
     
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    I've graduated from college you know. And I've done lots of research on my own. Obviously you should do the same.

    How exactly does part of the media become a "mouthpiece" for the CIA?
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure the CIA was just sitting around twiddling their thumbs while a coup took place on Russia's border. Seems very plausible.

    Here's some more research for you:

     
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    Your "research" is from something MORE THAN FORTY YEARS AGO!!!!
     
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    Earlier, you wrote in your Post # 106:
    "Because the Germans have a history of murderous actions in war time. Americans do not."

    After serving in S.E. Asia (Laos), I can assure
    you that some American G.I.s are as murderous and sadistic as soldiers of any military. The "Greatest Generation" of the last "good war" were no different.

    The Soviets, during WW 2, refused to sign the Geneva Convention accords so their rapes and torture were not only tolerated but encouraged.

    After I was discharged from the US Military, I lived, studied and worked in what was then W. Germany(early to mid 1970s) where I became enough in German to pass for a native German.
    It was then that I came to know honest holocaust survivors, German WW 2 Veterans, German survivors of criminal Allied firebombing and other WW 2 survivors of various nationalities.

    It was a former SS Officer who survived a Russian POW camp that showed me how to work with stone. He secretly bought the beer we drank as we built stone walls. He was no more sadistic or vicious than any other former soldier.

    So, much I know about the European theater of WW 2 is from eyewitness accounts, obscure and since censored books and simply trying to take an objective view of a conflict in which propaganda from all sides was / is rampant.

    Meanwhile I've already cited Martin Brech(1) who was one prison guard / eyewitness to the horrors of Eisenhower's real Death Camps and some others who are quoted in the article below.

    Probably one of the reasons you did not hear about Eisenhower's Death Camps in college was because:
    "During 1950, most of the materials relating to American prisoner of war camps were destroyed by the US Army." (from excerpt below).

    Thanks,

    "Eisenhower death camps"
    https://en.topwar.ru/1452-lagerya-smerti-yejzenxauyera.html

    EXCERPTS "Call it heartless, call it reprisal, call it a policy of hostile denial: a million Germans captured by the Eisenhower armies died in captivity after surrender.

    Rumors about conditions in the camps circulated in the American army. "Boys, these camps are bad news"- said Benedict K. Zobrist, technical sergeant of the Medical Corps." We were warned to stay away from them as far as possible. "

    During 1950, most of the materials relating to American prisoner of war camps were destroyed by the US Army." CONTINUED




    (1) "In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers"

    Martin Brech

    http://www.mourningtheancient.com/brech.htm

    EXCERPT “ Even the French complained that the rapes, looting and drunken destructiveness on the part of our [American] troops was excessive. In Le Havre, we'd been given booklets warning us that the German soldiers had maintained a high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

    I realize it's difficult for the average citizen to admit witnessing a crime of this magnitude, especially if implicated himself. Even G.I.s sympathetic to the victims were afraid to complain and get into trouble, they told me. And the danger has not ceased. Since I spoke out a few weeks ago, I have received threatening calls and had my mailbox smashed. But its been worth it. Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings suppressed too long, a liberation, that perhaps will remind other witnesses that "the truth will make us free, have no fear." We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: only love can conquer all.” CONTINUED
     
  15. Durandal

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    Welp, they've done it again. The Russian trolls have derailed a thread. This is supposed to be about Germany building up its armed forces to be better prepared for self defense and aiding Ukraine, not about conspiracy theories about Eisenhower.
     
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    I doubt he is giving money to Russia either.
     
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    The CIA doesn't have the power to tell the Ukrainians what to do. This is a lame attempt to deflect blame, and calling Euromaidan a coup is Russian propaganda designed to support Putin's invasion and theft of Ukrainian territory. In case you hadn't noticed, such actions do not generally give another country a right to invade and steal territory. Putin doesn't get to take over Ukraine and its government or any portion thereof just because it doesn't like how Ukraine handles its internal politics.
     
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    No, just to the fascist rump state in Kiev.
     
  19. Ethereal

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    The CIA backed the coup. It's obvious. Only shills and idiots believe otherwise.
     
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    The only troll I see here is you.
     
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    There is no such thing. You're spewing Russian propaganda again.
     
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    It was not a coup, actually, and since you have no evidence of CIA involvement, I'm going to have to go ahead and call bullshit on that as well.

    It's funny how you pretend to be against Russia while repeating every lie they tell.

    I was holding up a mirror.
     
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    Yeah, so? You think the CIA suddenly stopped being evil one day? Grow up.
     
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    The regime in Kiev is a dictatorship populated by thugs and criminals. It has zero legitimacy.
     
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    Say you and the Russian dictator with imperialist ambitions.

    Even if your silly falsehoods were true, they would not justify this naZi invasion by the fascist leader of Russia.
     

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