Get your FACTS here about Muslims

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by Robert, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When they explored the Nazi SS guards and executioners at Nazi death camps they found that they were great family men and highly respected in their community. Obviously, therefore you would conclude that generally Nazi SS men were wonderful people too.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This sort of reply amuses me. It is like the pot talked to the kettle.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were I to state that there were some awesome Nazis, I would catch the wrath of all the Democrats.

    So sad to see them yell bigot when they are a good example of what makes a bigot.

    Incidentally, this is not about the hated Nazis. I saw what they did. I do not forgive them.

    Now, that is a bigoted comment and I doubt a single Democrat will raise hell and go after me for being anti Nazi.
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you admit to having those very traits?

    I happen to have gold plated credentials as an American. But you talk like I am evil.

    That is a bigot.

    You for instance tell us you are a Jew. But just yesterday you flew off the handle at the Jews. Starting going back to 1954 to make a point.

    I will say this much. You spend a lot more time defending Muslims than you do in defending Jews.
     
  5. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    I think what you are doing is ignorant and hateful. I have lived in Kuwait, Libya and Saudi Arabia.. and like many Americans, I like Muslims.
     
  6. Lesh

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    Now you're comparing Muslims to Nazis?

    Interesting rationalization for bigotry
     
  7. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They found that they were also Christians, I conclude that the majority of Christians were anti- Semitic Jew killers.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a Muslim is not in full bore, of course you will enjoy their presence.

    The thing Trump said today is he will eliminate the bad ones.

    I feel that is awesome. We do not want the good ones harmed.

    I dread the day America is run according to the Koran.

    Do you honestly wish to drive down streets where people are beheaded or even hanging from the back of a tow truck?
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I well recall the serious problems England had with the Irish. I suppose one or both sides were horrible bigots.
     
  10. Margot2

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    Dr. Charles R. Roots Senior Pastor
    Former Staff Sergeant, USMC Captain,
    U. S. Navy Chaplain Corps (Ret.)

    Roots is not related to Stevens, and he says he is “disgusted” by a story attributed to him about Stevens’ death.

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    My family was in America about 1624........
     
  11. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you support importing more ME Muslims the bigotry, sexism, xenophobia and intolerance will be far, far worse.
     
  12. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not the question, is it? Do you want the manner of government, laws and enforced behavior of those countries to replace our own? THAT is the primary issue. That is what they and their children will vote of if in the USA.
     
  13. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it was all started because of stupid religious beliefs and civil war over which Christianity was right. But yes both sides were and many remain stupid religious bigots
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is best to discuss the post.

    This stuff of attacking the poster needs to quit.

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    So you do pass judgment on large groups. Thanks and that makes clear what I was thinking.
     
  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a good synopsis of my actuall commentary.

    What part of Sharia will we expect to have imposed on us?

    Will we obey a religion that forced itself on people using an army that collected taxes?

    Do we see signs it is not a war making group?

    Are the Taliban misunderstood?

    Are the Wahhabi just innocent victims?

    Is ISIS our future and do we welcome it?
     
  16. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad ....

    Super folks.

    Why weren't you angry at what Obama and Clinton did to Libya and in fact, even to Egypt?
     
  17. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I think that anyone who kills another because of their religious beliefs is a stupid religious bigot, don't you?
     
  18. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So do you want Sharia law in America?
    Do you also want restoration of the caliphate?
    Do you consider yourself a moderate Muslim?
     
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    Wrong. That's not even a POSSIBLE issue
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's examine the real points of your post.

    I won't try to make it about you and you did to me ...

    What were her flaws of history?

    What do you have to support your claim she lied?

    Tell you this, it is best to stick to the point. I never was the point.

    Tell you this, it is best to stick to the point. I never was the point.
     
  21. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I too wonder.
     
  22. YourBrainIsGod

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    What are the trends of us turning into a country led by Shiria law? We are so far away from that it just sounds ridiculous.

    We have an incredibly rigorous immigration policy. Why the distrust?

    The objection to your post is the blanket statements made about a creed of people, it is not an accurate way of discussing an issue.
     
  23. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I recall well the book called America Alone.

    Let's say you have a particular religion.

    Do you expect your word to instantly be law?

    Would it take a period of years?

    I do know that some Muslims fight other Muslims and treat them as the enemy. I thank those fighting ISIS.

    France, England and other areas are having an inflow of Muslims.

    Isn't one of the arguments made against Trump he wants to vet Muslims and in some areas they come from, want them maybe banned if the vetting is not possible.

    It is not easy to vet a person that lives in a closed society.

    She made some points.

    I catch flack for posting it though I outlined in some detail why I did.

    But I was hopeful the people who are bigoted would not attack me.

    But they did.
     
  24. RiaRaeb

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    Her flaws in history were too many to list completely.

    You can start by checking these facts.

    Jerusalem was not finally "liberated" in 1967.(hint, think about the mandate for Palestine.)

    Islam has never been thrown out of Europe,

    The Ottoman Empire was broken up because they supported the wrong Christian side in WW1.

    Not all the Crusades were even against Muslims, but fellow Christians.

    She also conveniently forget that the Jews were not allowed in Jerusalem under the Christian Byzantine empire, religious tolerance was actually restored by the Muslim take over.

    By the way, Ataturk the hero of part of her little diatribe was a Muslim.
     
  25. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was thinking along the lines she lied about the founder of the Muslim group.

    At least you don't allege she lied on how it is founded.

    Okay, you had your say.

    Is there a reason I should take your word vs hers?

    As to 1967, she was speaking of the war Israel won where they finally were once more in Jerusalem. I was then 29 years old so was reading all about it when it was going on.

    I was thinking she pointed to a particular time it was tossed out of Europe. I suppose not all got tossed out.
     

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