Gingrich pledges moon colony during presidency

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  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    I'll bet if Obama pledged to spend that on something useful, say education or healthcare, you'd go nuts.
     
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    Sounds like someone hasn't a clue what his own government is doing ;-)

    British scientists and engineers want a piece of the Moon.

    REF: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15574653

    Actually Obama cancelling this is what caused me not only to be against him, but also proved he's a hypocrite when he talks about global warming and alternative fuels.
     
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    Intoxicated politicians dont care , as long as its OPM's (other peoples money) they're spending .

    The whole idea is just more of Newt Gingrich's LOOOOnacy An absolute waste of human effort , unlikely to make life any better of anyone, except gain few more votes for Newt from Loony Yanks .

    Just as each soul is trapped within our bodies , our species + other life forms are trapped within our solar system. its a dead end


    IMO - The Chinese can have it all.
     
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    Bollox. Over 40 million Americans live below the poverty line . Don't try telling us that kids begging in the streets don't signify hunger and lack of support.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yes, and if one of our politicians used lunar colonies as an election platform he'd be laughed off the stage. Gingrich needs to understand what 'priorities' means.
     
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    Here's another Brit that doesn't know his/her own government has plans to do the same...
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are not kids begging for food all over America. That is a lie. The only hungry kids are those of druggy parents who don't care enough to go down to the local food bank, get some free food and make them a meal. Those who trade their food stamps 2 to 1 for cash. Or those who know not money and instead of making their food stamps last the month, buy a bunch of food that is eaten or rotten before the months end. Now I admit a lot of problems would be solved if public education would teach fiscal responsibility as a core subject, like math or English. But in the end, you can't fix stupid. You can only sterilize stupid.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Never happen. The British public have more important things to worry about; keeping their jobs, homes and feeding their families for a start.
     
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    That's OK I'm sure the US companies will give you Brits a fair price on the H3 and minerals. :)
     
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    *shakes head in dismay*

    The only thing more silly than statements of this nature, are supporters that buy into it. Perhaps someone should break it to them, that at best, the U.S. is a decade away from developing a craft to accomplish such a mission.

    Personally, I have nothing against space exploration, however, with a shaky U.S. and world economy (and all associated ills), I hardly think now is the time to be pandering for votes with such idiotic bullsh*t.
     
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    I wouldn't count on finding much metal in the Moon's crust, as the Moon consists overwhelmingly of rock material when the collision of a Mars-sized object with Earth 4.5 bya knocked the lighter rock into the orbit, while the metals coalesced back into Earth. Helium-3 is definitely a grear asset. However, the main benefit would come in the form of practical experience gained from living extendedly on an alien surface in preparation for similar colonies on Mars and such. The alternative would be to wait with this until better technologies develop and in the meantime to expand unmanned space exploration, a cheaper and much more scientifically beneficial option.
     
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    Fine, you go gamble your own money.
     
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    Unlike you , we all dont necessarily agree with everything our government plan to do - besides its part of joint project with other EU countries, ver likely a very small part. LOL


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    Well there are plenty of colaborative programmes, in which Russia, Europe, China and the US collectively work. The notion that the US should go it alone in terms of space exploration is idiocy! The costs start to quickly become prohibitive. In my example it takes about $50Bn just to get a 4 person station on the moon, with 11Bn per year to run. This assumes that the international space station will assist. Now imagine Grinch, he was talking about have 11,000 or so Americans based on the moon permenently. Now start to imagine the costs of anything further.

    This is one reason why countries collaborate, plus the scientitic knowledge is spread, with specialists all over the world.
     
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    Bull $hit on top of your previous crap. Here are a few facts from those better informed than you :

    --36.3 million people--including 13 million children--live in households that experience hunger or the risk of hunger. This represents more than one in ten 0households in the United States (11.2 percent). This is an increase of 1.4 million, from 34.9, million in 2002.
    --3.5 percent of U.S. households experience hunger. Some people in these households frequently skip meals or eat too little, sometimes going without food for a whole day. 9.6 million people, including 3 million children, live in these homes.


    --7.7 percent of U.S. households are at risk of hunger. Members of these households have lower quality diets or must resort to seeking emergency food because they cannot always afford the food they need. 26.6 million people, including 10.3 million children, live in these homes.


    The second two paragraphs amplify the first.

    The 36.3 million people live in households that experience hunger or the risk of hunger. 9.6 million people, including 3 million children, experience hunger, when people frequently skip meals or eat too little. The second group, 26.6 million people including 10.3 million children are at risk of hunger, which they deal with by buying cheaper (and less nutritious food) and by relying on public or private food programs.

    So three million children live in homes that experience hunger. Two further points are important:

    --First, this is really "experience hunger at some time during the year." A majority of the people who were hungry at some time during the year were hungry in several different months, but only for a few times each month. So that daily statistics for hunger would be smaller.

    --Secondly, the number of children that experience hunger would be smaller, as adults usually try to shield children from hunger. The first people to be hungry are usually adults.

    http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/04/editorials/hungry_us_children.htm


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    We were already doing this, and have already spent billions, before Obama stopped it. So it's not like we'd be starting from scratch on this.

    We won't know until we go, but I'd bet on quite a bit reaching escape velocity, not to mention all the impacts since the Moon was formed.
     
  19. Dayton3

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    Below poverty line in the United States doesn't indicate anything about hunger in the U.S.

    Can you provide evidence of kids "begging in the streets" in the United States because there are no govt. programs that will care for them?

    Thought not.
     
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    Worry about your own country.
     
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    I dont have a worry while living in a robust democracy. You might like to heed your own advice.
     
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    "risk of hunger" is largely a meaningless term.

    Basically if someone says "I don't know where our next meal is coming from" it can be considered "risk of hunger".

    Ignoring the fact that

    1) Most people don't even need three meals a day.

    2) This is a reflection of economic uncertainties rather than an actual lack of food in the U.S.

    3) Obesity for low income Americans is a far, far, far greater health threat than hunger. So obviously low income Americans are getting plenty to eat.

    And yes, I would be outraged if President Obama wanted to spend that kind of money on healthcare and education because I believe that federal govt. funded healthcare and education makes things worse rather than better.

    Of course President Obama has already wasted far more than that by far.
     
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    and the United States is very happy to have Australia serve as its deputy in the Pacific Rim/Asian region.
     
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    1) You quoted the wrong person

    2) I am worried about my own country i post here daily about it and im voting for the one Candidate that can actually steer us in the right direction.

    3) NASA does need more funding. However i think Newt is a loon thinking we can have a colony by 2020.
     
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    "experience hunger or the risk of hunger". I find someone so sure of them self to insult another poster would have "statistics" that didn't need to rely on such ambiguous terms.

    Whenever someone such as me argues that globalization is hurting America, globalists come out of the woodwork to argue Americans are rich compared to children of Asia, Africa, or south America.

    Those worldhunger.org statistics are as disingenuous as statistics come. Emergency food needed, implies emergency food exists. "Experienced hunger" implies hunger even for said families is not the norm. "May experience hunger in the future" is not a dilemma.

    The only reason there are so many Americans to claim need help is the globalists at the helm of our nation using our prosperity and work ethic to build up a world of people who can't seem to do so in their own right. If our leaders just cared about our own, what they are elected and paid to do by the way, there wouldn't be 36 million Americans below the poverty line.

    I would never have the audacity to tell an English person what they see with their own 2 eyes is wrong, because of something I read, supplied by a global entity. Europe has enough problems English. Worry about your own.
     

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