Girl Scouts Allow 7-Year-Old Boy to Join Because He is ‘Living Life as a Girl’

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  1. Tank

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    Because of his genitals he was rejected at first by the girl scouts
     
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    Me preoccupied with how they should raise their child? Don't be silly. If the parents want to put their kid in a cage at night so it doesn't get out, more power to them.
     
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    The Boy Scouts of America has their headquarters here. I did some IT consulting for them about 10 years ago. One quarter of their budget is spent on lawyers defending the BSA against angry parents whose children were molested by gay scoutmasters, assistant scoutmasters, and older boys. Gays have always been banned simply due to the legal risk.

    So you are saying that the BSA must accept the legal risk in order to promote some kind of social agenda?
     
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    So cut those things off right away!

    That's a joke, no flames please.

    I recall that when I was growing up, my brother had a little bit of a penchant for wearing female clothing, you know, kids go thru all kinds of phases and it's the parents job to manage those situations when they come up. My brother is now married with two children. I'm not sure he would be amused if I brought up the female clothing bit.

    Not sure what to make of this one but from the outside, it looks like this parent is unfit to raise a child. I wouldn't be too quick to take the child away from the parent due to a strong belief in government non-interference with child rearing. Since this is a seemingly isolated case, I'd probably focus attention on the mis-management going on within the Girl Scout organization. I guess I thought that the Girl Scouts were like the Boy Scouts in having a commitment to the well-being of children. Obviously not.
     
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    Just because a boy is molested by a man, doesn't mean the molester is homosexual. In most cases, the molester is heterosexual, a fact continually ignored by the anti gay rabble.
     
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    What if the child has counseling and the counselor says the child is transgendered? We'd have our panel of 'experts' here insisting the child is being abused and that the mother is an unfit parent!
     
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    Ok, let me get this straight, if a male molests another male, that's not gay? Is that because, in your world, gay is always good so it's not possible for a gay person to do something bad?
     
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    It's a homosexual act by it's very nature.
     
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    So I take it you support parental notification when it comes to children seeking contraceptives or abortions?
     
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    Contraceptives? Depends on your definition. Condoms? No. Drugs or IUD's? Yes.

    Abortion? Yes.

    Herein lies the problem with your argument You assume that i thin,m on e way, in a partisan manner, because you do. Fortunately I am intelligent enough to think things through and arrive at my own conclusions.
     
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    Great Idea, but the bigoted boy scouts would never allow it. Also, if it were to happen, then there would still need to be separate activities. Girls and boys have different things to discuss and about their bodies and such, and do need independent time with adults of their own gender. However, for camping, leaning skills and general socialization there would be nothing wrong with combined meetings.
     
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    Why does everyone assume there has been no counseling, no requests for assistance, no seeking of professional help?
     
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    This is why the little boy should not be in the girl scouts
     
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    Yes, to promote fairness, equality and the law, the BS must do something to permit all boys to go to be scouts. We have made it illegal to keep people of color from swimming schools and it should be illegal to prohibit people of gender differences from belonging to groups. If the Scouts have a problem with gay scout masters etc, they they need to change the way they do things and provide BETTER supervision. They SHOULD NOT be allowed to discriminate against decent children with different gender alignment. Discrimination is discrimination, be it against gays, whites, blacks, Christians, Muslims, males or females.
     
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    It was said in sarcasm in case you missed it. But then some, if not most parents would prefer to have a separate Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts as they now exist.
     
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    Because none was reported in the story and it would have been a key element.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, they just don't need a person who engages in homosexuality be in such a position over little boys and young men. THAT is what they believe and it should be there right to do so. Homosexual men can start a organization of their own and try to recruit members.
     
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    So would I. This brings up some heavy duty legal issues. What about camping???

    I'm an Asst. Scout Master for our local Boy Scout Troop for some 2 years now. Both my sons are members.

    This is the Boy Scout Oath:


    On my honor, I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight. ​


    We take ethical matters very seriously....this situation would not occur in the Boy Scouts for this reason.
    You CANNOT join Boy Scouts if you're a girl.

    You can be in the Venturing group if you're a girl. That's a separate group of the BSA for young men and women ages 13-21. I'm not greatly familiar with the program, but it's to my understanding that it's much more physically rigorous. They do a lot of long hiking, climbing, and survival skills are stressed. Not for lightweights.
     
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    Gay people can be molesters but the majority of men who molest boys are heterosexual. I'm sorry if you don't it but its a fact.
     
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    The only real problem I can see with this is that this boy (he has a penis so he's a boy) is abandoning one gender role for the other. It's kind of pointless really.

    It's not that I dislike it when people swap their genders. It's that if you hate conforming to the gender which you were born into then switching over to the other one just makes the whole thing invalid. That's because in the end you still conform to gender roles.

    Edit: Forgot to mention... Why do we bother having boy and girl scouts if they're just going to start crossing back and forth. Either make the scouts universal or don't let people join the sex they aren't physically a member of.
     
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    How ignorant is it that you insist that anyone who doesn't see the world like you do must be ignorant? This isn't the first time I've seen you do this. You're not very tolerant for someone who is supposed to be open-minded.


    Wrong. I'm a human being. And as such I have opinions on things. And living in the United States of America, I have a right to express those opinions. You can disagree with them. But you can't tell me not to express them. I've made my views known. Deal with it.



    Have at it. You're going to do it anyway. Everyone does. It's natural. In fact, whether you realize it or not, you're doing it right now.


    Wrong again, homie. I can judge whoever the hell I want. Just as you can. Freedom of speech. If you have any respect for it, you'll stop trying to silence people you disagree with. Which is essentially what you are trying to do every time you say, "Who are you to judge?" The implied answer is, "Nobody. So ****." This is exactly what I mean about people being too sensitive. Get some thicker skin, folks. Nobody should care that much about what other people think of them.



    And you have plenty of bias of your own, my friend. It's in many of your posts. In fact, it's plenty present in this one. Because you're human. Just like me.



    You see what you're doing here? You're doing the very thing you're criticizing me for. You're judging me. I'm not going to rub it in that you're being hypocritical. I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
     
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    So a male having sex with a male is not homosexual anymore?
     
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    Your negative generalizations about these things, is something I won't be tolerating very much.

    Like it or not, we disagree.
     
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    congratulations to the mother for helping screw up a child at only 7 years of age

    she should be proud of herself but at least she's true to her agenda, to heck with the child
     
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    Sexual identity that is not the same as your body is a mental illness. A woman thinking she's really a man is a mental illness. It's no different than a person thinking they are really an animal.
     

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