Global Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study Finds

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    ANOTHER THREAD FAIL!!

    Directly from the DMI addressing the article:
    Danish Meteorological Institute
    (with contributions from Mads Ribergaard and Gorm Dybkjær)
    The articles in The Telegraph and The Daily Wire fundamentally misrepresent both our research and the operational data products we provide freely to the public. Below are the details of where the Telegraph and the Daily Wire stories are misleading or simply wrong based on our data.:

    http://climatefeedback.org/evaluati...res-plummet-the-telegraph-christopher-booker/
     
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  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was watching a program on some lost ships up there and darned if they didn't say they really had to rush since the Arctic was about to freeze up on them.

    Think you can watch it on PBS.

    Man, see the massive amount of Arctic ice here.

    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
    The typical person does not yet understand the limits on batteries, the sacrifices made to carry them.
     
  3. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I know enough not to put faith in the people who keep getting it wrong. Like you do :)
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Which of course you have no proof of as usual. Typical Bowerbird.
     
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    Ya, I'm saying we need better ones. Capacitors are a cool way to go too, it seems.
     
  6. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL From your article:

    Seven scientists analyzed the article and estimated its overall scientific credibility to be ‘very low’

    Exactly what makes these 7 more credible? Can you explain yourself or are you simply too busy at the alter of a failed religion?

    And what a shocker instead of looking at the 18 years they cookie cut temperature rises in 5 year intervals. Exactly how dishonest can you be?

    Nothing in that bullshit article denies the reality that the earth has not warmed in those 18 years. Nothing.

    And if you still believe that bullshit, quote SPECIFICALLY where they claim its false.

    Want more evidence your religion is fake? How about 58 years with no warming?

    In their “hottest year ever” press briefing, NOAA included this graph, which stated that they have a 58 year long radiosonde temperature record. But they only showed the last 37 years in the graph.

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    NESDIS Strategic Communications

    Here is why they are hiding the rest of the data. The earlier data showed as much pre-1979 cooling as the post-1979 warming.

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    1520-0493(1978)106<0755:GTVSMA>2.0.CO;2

    I combined the two graphs at the same scale below, and put a horizontal red reference line in, which shows that the earth’s atmosphere has not warmed at all since the late 1950’s

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    The omission of this data from the NOAA report, is just their latest attempt to defraud the public. NOAA’s best data shows no warming for 60 years. But it gets worse. The graph in the NOAA report shows about 0.5C warming from 1979 to 2010, but their original published data shows little warming during that period.

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    cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends/temp/angell/global.dat

    Due to Urban Heat Island Effects, the NOAA surface data shows nearly one degree warming from 1979 to 2010, but their original radiosonde data showed little warming during that time. Global warming theory is based on troposphere warming, which is why the radiosonde data should be used by modelers – instead of the UHI contaminated surface data.

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    NOAA’s original published radiosonde data showed little net troposphere warming from 1958 to 2010, when the data set ended.

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    The next graph shows how NOAA has altered their 850-300 mb temperature data since 2011. Another hockey stick of data tampering.


    Your religion is as fake as a golden calf. What's amazing is how easily you are suckered just believing your gods when they hide information from you and shorten time spans just to show how much of a sucker their followers are. :)

    https://realclimatescience.com/2016/03/noaa-radiosonde-data-shows-no-warming-for-58-years/
     
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    Like NASA? Lol
     
  8. Robert

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    Batteries are limited due to laws of physics, to under 2 v per cell. In general about 1.5 v. A few have topped that but not over 2 v. Capacitors can have higher v ratings but where have you seen them used to supply long term power?
     
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    Name one long term prediction on the weather they ever got right.

    Go ahead. Owning you is beyond easy. :)
     
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    Taking their cues from the Drudge Report, right-wing media are echoing a London Telegraph columnist's false claim that scientific agencies intentionally adjusted years of weather station data to show a global warming trend that isn't really there, which the author dubbed the "biggest science scandal ever." But far from being a scandal, historical temperature records are routinely subject to peer-reviewed adjustments to account for changes to measuring instruments, the time of day measurements are taken, and other factors -- and they do not negate a global warming trend.

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    Column Was Promoted By The Drudge Report -- The Gateway To Conservative Media.
    On February 9, Booker's Telegraph column was promoted at the top of the Drudge Report, a highly-read news aggregator website that frequently serves as an agenda-setter for conservative media like Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. According to a study from Outbrain, as of 2011 the Drudge Report drove "more than double the traffic to content sites than Facebook and Twitter combined."

    https://www.mediamatters.org/resear...enial-food-chain-conservative-media-ru/202469
     
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    No, just more lies and fake news from the climate change deniers. Predictably tiresome and ignorant drivel.
     
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    I love it when the religious fanatics come out. You can't argue the data but you will certainly preach from on high your failed religion.

    Name one long term prediction on the weather your side ever got right.

    Go ahead, try. :)
     
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    LOL See? One simple question and the religious freaks of global warming run scurrying into the night. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    I continue to be amazed at how fake science can make the claims that a warmer earth is not factually beneficial to mankind. Canada and Russia would like to use the other halves of their countries, that are currently under a ball of ice.
     
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    Not sold on AGW ... but really only wanted to share how much I like the term quackery ... it's like the perfect liberal adjective.
     
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    That it will get hotter. Duh. Lol
     
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    I knew you couldn't do it.

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    I accept your concession. Lol
     
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    Sorry Charlie, but people don't live 4 to 6 miles in the air, they live on the surface. And satellite data, which is NOT vulnerable to the UHIE shows not only warming, but also matches the ground surface temperature readings.

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    One true believer of the climate change insanity was Berkeley professor Theodore Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomer.
    He lived in a rathole cabin, never bathed, didn't own a car, and read Al Gore's Earth In The Balance over and over and over.
    Except for one thing, murdering and maiming people with package bombs, he was a real "environmentalist." One of the few.
     
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    The Scary Graph

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    Adding THE dominant greenhouse gas, water vapor, which constitutes 15,000 parts per million of the atmosphere. Same graph, showing carbon dioxide as the red line at bottom, compared with both gases as black line at top:

    [Note: The "97% consensus" is a blatant lie. But even if it were NOT, it is immaterial. Consensus isn't science. In this case, it's bias, to keep the billions in "research" monies flowing from governments worldwide, especially in the U.S. It's bias, to keep the billions flowing from the U.S. to third world socialist crapholes.]

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    “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” – Ottmar Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015

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    - the issue is climate, not weather. It's a common tactic of deniers to carefully limit what is being compared. This is just one case of deniers "cherry picking" data from one level of the atmosphere or one region or one carefully bounded time range as a way of finding some instance that supports some claim that doesn't hold true when those limits are removed.

    - models have actually been quite accurate, possibly even being overly conservative in how much warming is taking place.

    http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/howreliable.pdf

    http://www.ucsusa.org/publications/ask/2013/climate-modeling.html#.WRdn_329FU4

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ccurately-predicting-ocean-and-global-warming
     
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    Psst. Hey Genius, the Temperature for the earth has to be measured from the earth not with a car or BBQ grill right below the temp readout. You do realize that the temperature is different in the city than the country right?

    Jesus Christ how can you be so gullible?
     
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    Yes, most of that transfer of money goes from us, consumers, to the banking cabal and MNCs. So these emerging economies need infrastructure, western companies build it. Factories for the slave labor wages, western corporations build those too. The money has a path to flow from the West, which is handled by banking, who of course dip their pelican sized beaks in this flow and get their taste. So, it is just a way to redistribute money from the non elites, to the elites. Globalization has been the scheme to do this too, but co2 taxes finishes up the scheme of the rich getting richer as the middle class vanishes.
     
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