God causes most abortions...

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  1. Leffe

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    Its a fair point to make, why does god do this; if he values each life, from conception?
     
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    Good point for the goddies to figure out but I call it nature.

    Believers probably will disagree because to them they are bad bad and god is good...if something bad happens they believe they're being punished.....they also believe the world is flat and abortion is bad.
     
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    They hate abortion but their God finds it perfectly acceptable to dash children against rocks.

    Just more proof that life matters little to them once outside the womb.
     
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    :) The Anti-Choice, Anti-Women folks are also pretty quiet about their god doing abortions!!!! :) :)
     
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    God works in mysterious ways, lol!
     
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    It is God's call....He's our creator..gives and takes away. A tough concept for the petulant.

    Human Beings making it their call is troublesome. Human beings acting like gods hasn't led to anything good.
     
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    God also causes most deaths. Do you have any idea how many people die from old age every year?
    Does that mean we should legalize murder?
     
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    No, it means you should start screaming at your god for being really really bad and causing abortions....:) :) :)
     
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    Do you believe that saving a person's life or keeping them on a life support system constitutes as playing God or even interfering with God's plan?
     
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    Good question. If someone has a heart attack and stops breathing, we shouldn't get that person breathing again, as obviously God caused the heart attack and intended for that person to die! We would be going against Gods wishes if we saved that person!
     
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    Abortion isn't letting someone die of natural causes...its killing. So though the life support system question is a complicated one---its not anywhere near deciding to kill a baby because you don't want to deal with it. Abortion is more in line with what we call murder. Its more in the catagory of a man killing his wife for the insurance money or a gangster killing someone for the hell of it--because they don't value life. Or a family in India smothering a new born girl because she would be a financial liabilaity.

    And yes we should save people---but there are some we can't save.

    But to answer your question---no, it is not going against God to save life. Letting someone die whose organs are run by machines isn't murder. But---not feeding a disabled woman who otherwise could live---is.
     
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    I don't understand how saving lives or taking lives makes any sense as they are both interfering with God's will. Why is one form of interference more acceptable than the other? Why is there such a fear of death to begin with and this need to save people's lives when clearly God wishes to take them there and now?

    This is another reason religion has always baffled me. Dying and going to God is supposed to be good but apparently dying is often general is seen as bad amongst the religious?
     
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    Prove definitively that there is a god and the more intelligent of society might tend to follow his rules. Until the the petulent will continue their petulence.

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    Well no he doesn't. The laws of biology do that. And no, god did not create these laws.
     
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    In bolded above who is "we"? You and god? Or are you god and that's why you seem to be making the "rules"?
     
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    Maybe I should ask the Anti-Freedom/Anti-Choice people what they're going to do to stop their god from making abortions.....but they can't seem to even address how THEY are going to end abortions....
     
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    If murders bad and people dieing is bad does this make sense?

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    They could always try a revolution against God though as far as I can tell the punishments for it vary, Satan got a hell, a kingdom of fire to rule over bad souls and demons, Adam got agriculture and eve got extremely painful childbirths.
     
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    LOL! Sometimes you are positively NAUGHTY!!!! :)
     
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    So if you're a woman then you're screwed! Guess guy's can look forward to some good stuff though. lol
     
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    :eek: Why I ask questions, Murders bad, Deaths bad, Yet people (Hell I do to) Pray to God (Not my god though, My gods ((Yes Plural)) arent that bad o.0)
     
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    What Neil deGrasse Tyson says (the idea is not his own idea) is: God is a murderer, because human beings are dying. And because god is a murderer everyone has the right to be a murderer. This form of logic is nonsense. Human beings are dying - also in the most early phase of their life. During an early period of the industrialization it was for example "normal" that lots of children died in the first few years of their life - today this would not be normal any longer. But such tragedies give no one the right to kill human beings. Death is irreversible. Only god is able to heal us from death. God is life.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGikhmjTSZI
     
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    So would death be a god as well? So would there be God (Who is the main god for good) His son (Jesus) So would Satan Be God (Main god for death) and Death be his kid?

    Now is God god, or Jesus God? (I hear it both ways) And I personally say Jesus is his kid, shouldnt be prayed to since praying to the son is against praying to god, So Abortion is in the hands of which god? Also who is god? (Man or woman?, Non gender? ((If non gender then do gender really matter on earth?)) Is he/she called Odin ((Norse God)) Quetzalcoatl ((Aztec god)) Allah ((Pakistan)) or is he like cher and just goes by "God")
     
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    Frankly,Christians aren't baffled .... and I'm not trying to be rude but if you are confused its probably because you aren't a Christian.

    But back to abortion---like I said--those fetuses that are purposely killed fits the definition of murder. Those fetuses that die of natural causes fits the definition of dying of natural causes. If you are Christian---you trust God your Creator. If you aren't---the difference between the definition of murder vs the definition of natural causes still shouldn't be too hard to understand.
     
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    "WE" as how our society defines murder. Though, yes abortion is legal. Its more inline with the definition of murder and doesn't come close to natural death.
     
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    You would have to show who God is (if he exists) and then show what he, specifically, does to cause these "spontaneous/natural" abortions before you can even ask this question in the first place. The rule of thumb is, if you are going to make a claim, the burden of proof lies with you.
     

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