God particle discovery is a win for science over superstition

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  1. thebrucebeat

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    You missed the point of that post completely, and we were talking about Al Qaeda then, not the Taliban.
    The less than 2 dozen referred to were those that were on the planes on 9/11.
    You missed the point entirely, Neutral.
     
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    Then how could the Earth form w/o atoms?
     
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    All the Christians I know would say you are going to Hell for believing in evolution. You're not a real Christian, according to them. It's good that you accept science, but you're as much an atheist as any of us, in the minds of most Christians in this country. It's those types we want to annoy by pointing out how science proves them wrong again and again. If you accept science, then you are excluded from such ridicule. Except, of course, you seem to seek it out, to make yourself a martyr... typical Christian false oppression syndrome.
     
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    What made the Higgs boson, did it create itself?
     
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    No, it was turned by a fricken vamper, a sexy man vamper :blankstare:


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    Whats an "extremist Christian"?
     
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    The standard theory with Higgs-Boson is more than 50 years old - the theory of relativity is more than 100 years old. We know that one of the theories is wrong, because very little particles combined with gigantic masses - for example in a black hole or in the beginnig of the universe - seem to produce different excluding answers if someone is using the theory of relativity for a solution or the standard theory for a solution. On the other side: The theory of relativity was never wrong - and we can see that the standard theory of quantum mechanics is also never wrong. Even the god(*)(*)(*)(*)ed Higgs-boson is now a reality. This means: we have a problem - and the problem is not a spiritual problem ... hopefully ... What makes you to believe that this problem of our knowledge about phyiscs could be a spiritual problem? Why do you think you are able to solve the problems of physics if you are ignoring the evolution of the human race and your own [anti-]spiritual structures as well as the religious structures of all other members of your own species?

    http://youtu.be/BeyFG9uQi8E
     
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    Would you consider someone that murders a doctor sitting in a church pew because he believes he is doing God's work an extremist? Or one who pickets a soldier's funeral with signs that say "God hates (*)(*)(*)(*)!"? How about a Christian who dies because he allows venomous snakes to bite him?

    Do you think "extremist Christians" don't exist?
     
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    It seems to me that Atheists use science as a panecea for their dis-belief. What the bible does not say about science (in their minds) means that religious people are not and can not be scientific, and that science disproves the bible because of its silence about the minutiea of scientific discoveries and the assumption of science that we "evolved" from pond scum means that the bible could not possibly be true or reliable scientifically. The condition of the universe and the world betwwen Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2 could be anything asnd any lenghth of time, if indeed time existed then.
     
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    Who did that? Are you talking about Tiller the baby Killer? The person who commited that crime was not a christian. Being stupid enough to handle poisionous snakes has nothing to do with extermism, its just being a dumb ass. I think there are people who believe they are christians but in reality do not know the first thing about it.
     
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    Scientists had the noblest of intentions to set out and prove the existence of God. It's no one's fault that He turned out to be an extra terrestrial conqueror whose only distinction was his relatively advanced technology. Our ancestors were duped. Happens to the best of us. Don't blame scientists. Blame Yahowah.
     
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    So to you extreme expressions of the Christian faith prove that person to not be a Christian, and extreme expressions of the Muslim faith prove that person to be devout.

    That's really all I need to hear. I believe there are MANY people who claim to be Christians that don't know the first thing about it.
     
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    So? You got nothing beyond attempted argumentitive insult and alledged shock factor intended to illicit and emotional defense? I get it.
     
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    You assumed something I did not say. No wonder there are miscommunications.
     
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    And you are really stretching to try and make an ancient text meet modern standards. Go ahead, explain the creation of the universe in one paragraph, and you cannot use ANY modern terms or numbers - and then, remember that your ultimate point is not exacting scientific accuracy, its a simple statement - God did it.

    Why is it science, for everyone but atheists, is an explanative tool that helps us understand? Why is it an emotional tool of derision for atheists? Why is it one atheust after another comes in and treats all Christians like they are ALL extremists creations who reject science? Atheists speak of reality, but time and again I see atheists ignore reality itself in order to castigate and put down other people. What's up with that?
     
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    Interesting. Well, let me know how that judge and jury thing is going for you? I'll bet its a wonderful bridge that leads to deep and lasting relationships build on trust ... and respect.

    Good luck.
     
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    Just stating facts. I have no intention to elicit any response from anyone. I am fully aware that few will accept the truth. I won't stop sharing it however, even if it harms you emotionally.
     
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    Were you suggesting there is no such thing as a Christian extremist, or are you just looking to define the term?

    If i misrepresented you, I'm sorry. Tell me what you meant if my reduction of your argument was inaccurate.
     
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    That has nothing to do with it. The bible is not a science book, or text. And in the same spirit, science is not a religious pursuit. What science discovers is what God created, and the processes by which he created. Science in no way renders God or his word invalid, not to mention disproved. Atheists use science as a battering ram to attack religion (Christianity specifiically) makeing science what it is not.
     
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    I did not say that either. There are lots of extremists.
     
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    THERE IS NO God particle. There will be noThing to show that the earth was anything other than created by a supreme being.

    sorry. but there it is.
     
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    What's up with that is they are responding to the irrational ramblings of self described Christians that DO hold science in contempt. Not all Christians do, but those that do are being energetically engaged by those that find that an untenable position.
    There ARE extremist Christians, and they are proudly anti-intellectual. This tends to get the dander up of those that are trying to honor reason and evidence.
     
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    Interesting. No response to the post's premise.
    Do you see no double standard being applied?
     
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    No. Your are typing attacks, not discussion, as the hi-lighted illustrates. Just stating facts.
     
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    Since you didn't answer my question, should I assume you don't know what your argument was?
     

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