God particle discovery is a win for science over superstition

re·li·gion/riˈlijən/
Noun:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

Now, I'm not saying this definition is more valid than yours (despite the fact that it is more common) but that there are definitions of religion which indicates both ways. Linguistically, this mean that one should not make a determined statement either way.

Edit: Besides, he doesn't say anything about atheism. If religion was wiped out, atheism would also effectively disappear, but I still think that's what the poster argues for.

 

Wether you or anyone else is right or wrong is completly superflous because god is existing and not existing - or whatelse do you like to say? That's nihilism , isn't it? A nihilist - someone who is not convinced that truth is existing - would not search for the Higgs-boson because there are cheaper illusions.

By the way: To be religious means to be rebound in god or in a metaphysical world. If we compare this with physics then I can say: "Physics is rebound in mathematics" - so mathematics is the metaphysics of physics. No one is able to do physics without mathematics but everyone is always able to do mathematics. So I would say the priority to be able to do physics is existing more in a kind of living spirituality - "god is logos" - than in a dead materialism.

http://youtu.be/yX6oWXrfQF4

 

I haven't argued for or against the existence or duality of any god or gods here.

A god either exists, does not exists or has some other relation to the concept of existence, for the moment I don't care. My argument is completely bound to the definition of religion and whether or not atheism fits in it.

Besides, a nihilist might still pursue the Higgs boson (that is, if he accepts an objective reality) since to a nihilist, the 'cheapness' of those other illusions have no value and therefore cheaper illusions are not necessarily more desirable. But that's just an aside.

"To be religious means to be rebound in god or in a metaphysical world", that's not necessarily true. What religious means changes from definition to definition. Sometimes, it includes atheism, sometimes, it does not. Therefore, it is dangerous to build arguments on such words.

 

Aha. By the way: I'm living in a world full of T-Bone Steaks - that's not necessarily true - nevertheless I'm not dying of hunger.

http://youtu.be/J0NNuaKv2o4

 

Just like NOT collecting stamps is a hobby right?

 

Not at all familiar with Occam's Razor are you?

 

What are the beliefs of atheism?

Remember, lack of a belief isn't a belief.

 

Two things.....

1. Why do scientific discoveries always have to be attacks against religion? I doubt when the physicists were discovering the Higgs Boson they were thinking to themselves "ooooh I can't wait to throw this in religious peoples faces!'... I mean, surely the atheists who try and turn every scientific discovery into an attack against religioun are just as bad as those religious folks who use religion to attack science.

And 2. What was the purpose of insulting the Middle East? The Arabs were very intellectual people who made many discoveries in science, mathematics, medicine, etc.

 

1 - Science gives us the real truth about the universe. With all the scientific knowledge out there, why does religion even persist? Ignorance or stupidity? Clearly, religion is a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If someone was going around saying, 5 + 5 = 15, you would try to correct them right? Why is trying to show religion to be nonsense any different?

2 – If the people of the middle east are so intelligent, then why does stupid crap like this happen?

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...s-public-execution-men-cheer-allah-great.html

 

Militant-atheists using this to attack religion is the same as a Muslim facing Mecca while they pray.

It's a religion period. With a God and a dogma except that most militant-atheists are fanatics. Just face it, it's a religion.

As for this, it turns out that it was nothing but a marketing scheme made by the scientists in order to ask for more money.

 

I don't see what Higgs has to do with the existance or nonexistence of God. It's a particle, one that gives a mass to an object it's got nothing to do with Moses Muhammad or Jesus. It's a part of matter.

 

It's the Militant-Atheist dogma, their religion makes them act like this. Their non-God God required this of them.

 

they are not 'against' religion.

Religions make their own problems. Scientific discoveries are for mankind, not to just prove that the beliefs of morons, are wrong.

You and i both know, muhammad didnt talk to a gabby angel for 2 decades, because god told him too.

Muhammad may have learned from many people of many lands for a few decades to comprehend what he was pursuing but no god spoke to him, no angel, no magic, no jesus..................... people are the gabby ones, not deities!!!!!!

religions will lose

nothing to debate

Knowledge destroys ignorance!

 

You mean if we don't appreciate knowledge we ought try amother few centuries of ignorance?

 

I want details about that

 

If the discovery that the Earth is in fact round and not the center of the universe didn't rid us of these Iron Age fairy tales, neither will the discovery of the Higgs

 

HEY. Still no discovery of that God Particle.

LoL

 

Science can not be used to disprove the existence of a god any more than it can be used to prove a god's existence. God exists outside of the realm of science. He relies completely on faith, and as such, belief in him is all that is needed to prove his existence to a believer.

 

Thus, for all intents and purposes, "God" does not actually exist. After all, if "he" could and did in any way interact with the known universe, that would create conditions which might in fact be investigated and tested by science.

 

hmmmm......building the towere of babel!

 

1 - so in other words, you are no different then the religious fanatics. You sound the exact same. congratulations.

2 - The Middle Easts entire history can not be defined by the actions of the Taliban.

What an extremely arrogant post.

 

1 - When the religious has empirical evidence, come seee me. I'm sorry you cannot tell the difference between evidence and faith.

2 - Nice none answer. I guess I will ask again:
If the people of the middle east are so intelligent, then why does stupid crap like this happen?
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...s-public-execution-men-cheer-allah-great.html

3 - How is my repsonce arrogant?

 

The same way that abortion doctors get murdered by "Christians" in America. Deranged extremists not representative of the entire region.

 

IT doesnt seem like people or the governments of the middle east is in no hurry to get rid of the taliban.

 

1 - Religion is not a science. So your point is pointless.

2 - It was a very stupid question, and I don't say that very often. That is like saying, if the Chinese are so smart why does crap like this happen

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsd...ese-man-stabs-wife-two-couples-to-death-.html

Very irrelant and again, pointless. For somebody who claims to be so smart, surely you should be aware of Arab contributions to science, math, etc.

3 - You are using an example of the Taliban to define centuries of Middle East history. How in the world could your response be considered arrogant?