God particle discovery is a win for science over superstition

As usual, Shakespeare boils it down to the very essence of the argument.


Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing. — Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-2

 

Tru to an extent, but unknown to Shakey, were it not that the Collective Unconscious mind exists in spite of individual death.
Though mortal man is born into the world and adds his own mental input to that collective, when he leaves the body of mankind remains alive continuously in his absence.
That Collective Unconscious mind is the good shepherd that has that third eye watching us and over us all, all seeing but silent.
There is a pattern to the way it thinks, that Unconscious and invisible composite of all our individual Unconscious minds sum.

The tetragram of YHVH is the key to its organized thoughts about our destiny and our understanding of the world in which we are both trapped and nurtured.

 

Our agenda is survival.
Truth is our only coping tool because we depend upon our mind to define what hope and dangers lie beyond our skull.

Comfort will depend upon the wisdom by which we execute behaviors based upon our perception of what is true.

 

There is truth to this, but science often defies our agenda. It simply seeks out truth. How it is applied defines our agenda.

 

But our stay is not brief, but recurrent.
We are born again from the gentic encoding that floats in the living people after we die.
The code ofr our rebuilding is in the blood of the gene pool.
We shall return, as we have in this present incarnation of our psyche.

But presently, until the next evolutuioon, the Unconscious memories are closed to us.
We are not privy to our past experiences, except for instincts and emotions, and those unbidden thoughts that may ocur to us seemingly out of the blue.

We live to evolve further, to become cognizant of all prior life experiences which are now locked in our Unconscious mind, for now we see through a glass, darkly.



But in the future, when the door thru evolution is opened a crack, then face to face,what we now know in part, then shall we know even as also we are known.





Revelation 21:4-5
And God, (blessing them with Total Phylogenetic Consciousness: [Carl Jung]), shall wipe away, (in their awakened Unconscious Mind: [Freudian Hypothesis]), all tears from their eyes, (for life is a genetically remember able continuum from one generation to the next living generation);
(in genetic memories of prior existences held in our Unconscious Mind) there shall be no more death... (For we shall not all "sleep:" [1Co15:51], but total phylogenetic Consciousness will have evolved), neither sorrow... (for we, individually, are part of a living continuum of our own past, flowers upon our genetic vine), nor crying,.. (for we are happy in these revelations of reconstitution from our human gene pool), neither shall there be any more pain... for the former things (in Modern Homo sapiens paradigm of the life experience) are passed away.

And “He,” (the ancient, phylogenetic, Collective Unconscious Mind), that sat upon the throne (within the kingdom of the evolving Homoiousian sapiens' brain: [Luke 17:21]) said, Behold, (in this way, through evolution: [Gen 9:11-18]), I make all things (in human experience) new.

And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true, (i.e.; Christ himself, the gospel Truth, rational, and scientifically feasible), and (worthy of) faithful (belief).

Then, we we know

 

What isn't supported by science in this post is the idea of the "Collective Unconscious Mind". The collective conscious mind could be supported, but the collective unconscious mind is a theological concept.

 

... defies our agenda to survive?
Like nukes??

But the knowledge of Nukes remains whether we make bombs or not.
We forget our agenda to survive when our greed for a good life now chances our goal for success in the future.
Nukes may be instrumental in diverting astroids as well as destroying one another.

I fail to see where knowledge of any type is useless to us or dangerous since both these are inherent only in us, not the knowledge.

 

Was a theological concept...

Read the new book:

Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior

Publication Date: April 24, 2012
Leonard Mlodinow, the best-selling author of The Drunkard’s Walk and coauthor of The Grand Design (with Stephen Hawking), gives us a startling and eye-opening examination of how the unconscious mind shapes our experience of the world and how, for instance, we often misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates, misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions, and misremember important events.

 

You are making my point. It isn't the knowledge itself that is useless or dangerous (such knowledge being the goal of pure science) but its application. Since science can provide knowledge that either can be used to advance our survival or contract it, it can defy our agenda of survival. That issue isn't the focus of scientific research. That is the focus of engineering.

 

^^^^ bingo!!!!

 

We are not that far off from expanding the human life span by hundreds of years...if we can get to 1,000 years, I think we are looking at immortality with future advancements.

 

All this is, is an Religious Atheist Fundamentalist rant using science as a platform to attack religion, more specifically Christianity. The Higgs Boson is simply the base of God's creation and the building block of everything else.

 

Yet another myth-fearing righty who is mad because science is tearing down the walls of superstition little by little. Sucks to be you dude.

 

No. Actually it is no threat whatsoever, none at all. The middle part of the article, which you boldened, is nothing but a religious statement, and not about science at all. It is unqualified, unverified, and is nothing more that Christophobia rant. God created the entirety of the universe including the Higgs boson, not to mention you and I. And you post is not about science, but about baseless ridicule that you have errantly bought into. I am not, nor is Christianity, cowed, bowed, folded, spindled, or mutilated, much less threatened by science or it discoveries which confirm God' genius and infinite creativity.

 

There is no god particle discovered,

 

Right you are, MisLed. Peter Higgs already postulated the existence of the particle. And you can't discover something you already know about. Also, it hasn't been witnessed observed or detected. It's existence can be inferred from the behavior of some other particles, we think, maybe, but we already knew that. The particle collider, however, has not shown us the boson itself. It's operators needed to release a report, so they did. Since it is the particle that pervades the Universe and gives mass to everything, everywhere, it should be named Brahma, not God.

 

Was this an op-ed piece, or is the Washington Post just that blatantly biased now? The reason why I ask is because subjectivity is palpably oozing from this story.

 

OK, That means what? Waiting for something substantive...

 

I agree. The article was trite and unscientific intended as a religious Atheist statement, not a scientific announcement.

 

I am not impressed. I would not abandon my religious beliefs because some scientist in a lab found something called a "God particle." Why would anyone? The author of the source article is just engaging in a wishful diatribe.

 

Well, we didn't scientifically know about it. We postulated that there would be a way around Africa, but that doesn't mean we had discovered it before we had been there.

 

a) The Freethinkianists using this episode to preach their Freethinkianism is as predictable as Muslims praying in the direction of Meca. Freethinkianism IS a religion period.

b) Turns out that this episode was marketing baloney from the scientists probably to try to get more money. Oooops.

 

The full name is "higgs-boson" also called "god[dämned] particle" what corresponds to a so called "Higgs-field". This field explains why some other particles have mass. It was theroretically postulated from teams of scientists - not only Mr. Higgs - in 196x. Now they found the Higgs-boson with the LHC in Cern with a significance of 5 sigma. We can say : The Higgs is now reality and not only an idea any longer. I guess I myselve was one of the very few people who was astonished that they found it really. The Higgs-boson was the last particle in the standard theory of quantum mechanics. This theory explains about 4-5% of the physics of our world.

A mystery from a philosophical view on the world could it be how it is possible that some humen beings are writing some mathematical ideas on some pages of paper - and they are able to see in our thoughts something what we are also able to find in the reality. We could ask for example "Are we thinking the world or is the world thinking us?" - if you like metaphysically questions. I guess our father in heaven is very proud because his children made a good job. Party time.

http://youtu.be/B718RsboGEI

 

Atheism is a religion :

Religion definition: "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects"
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