Gun Laws sure do work! 67 people shot in NYC over weekend.

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  1. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    The helicopter? With what arnaments?

    Not anything modern. Yes the crude era WW2 first generation and even that is beyond the very vast mayority.

    DOnt know why you would defend that stupid statement so much.
     
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    k995 Well-Known Member

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    BS police stop before as during the crime as well as criminals after the crime.
     
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    Ignoring the tactical nukes :
    yes they are to be used if anyone is foolish enough to attack the USA with nukes.

    This ISNT a defense you might have been brainwashed into believing it is but it isnt.

    Lets not forget the USA used these weapons in WW2 ?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intimidation
     
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    They can say all they want but criminals will always be able to get their hands on guns, so I will also always have a gun. There has been a "war on drugs" going on for years and there is still dime bags and dope fiends from coast to coast. I'll stay packin thank you.
     
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    Can be made.


    Just cause they don't have computers, doesn't mean they still can't kill people just the same. Its sad that you think that the computer in the rocket is what makes it deadly, and not the rapidly expanding gases push shrapnel through peoples bodies when it explodes kills people. Wonder if Timothy McVea had a computer in his explosion that destroyed the building in OKC?
     
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    Do you think an person that has never seen a gun is going to be scared of it? Of course we used it in WWII, and that use PROTECTED our soldiers from years of island hoping then fighting through the mainland Japan. Intimidation is still a form of defence. Even offense is a form of defense. We didn't physically attack the USSR cause of their defensive nukes. They didn't attack us for the same reason
     
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    If they are watching a known criminal commit the action, but the police can't stop someone for "thinking about murder".
     
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    Yep, Laws are only good against the good citizens who follow them. Gun laws will do nothing to address violent crime.

    Anyone who would do something illegal...like murder for instance, which is also illegal...doesn't give 2 (*)(*)(*)(*)s about a gun law. People already choosing to do illegal things will continue to pick up illegal guns.

    The only one who will be inconvenienced, are those who would follow the laws...the people you dont need to worry about anyway.
     
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    Sure everyone can make hellfire missiles in his shed.

    Sure numbers and old tech matter look at iraq, saddam's forces had weapons only 2 decades older and they did fine , didnt they?
     
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    Thats saying we defended ourselves from iran by whiping the country off the face of the earth.

    Thats not defense, thats offense.
     
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    Neither can your gun. And police do more then simple look for criminals you know.
     
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    Again, yes you can.

    Same with the Veitnamese. Or the Koreans.
     
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    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Thats simply not true, those people have accidents with guns, loose them, sell them,... It might not be all illegal but it still an issue.
     
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    If someone is coming into my home, I can assume they are thinking of murder, and my gun will stop them.

    Yes, sometimes they eat pastries and talk to children.
     
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    We don't need to, just like Isreal doesn't need to attack Iran. Our countries have defense in the form of intimidating weapons.
     
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    Frighteningly true. Most important, is the repealing of Obamacare. If that doesn't happen, you are sunk.
     
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    Accidents are going to happen anyway. Should we ban cars and planes too? Bicyclyes?

    Accidents are not violent crime which is always the center of gun control debates.

    You cannot legislate away accidents....
     
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    Sure thieves are only intrested in murder.
     
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    Then why do you mind if iran gets them also? After all they are just defensive weapons.
     
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    All are regulated and have a mayor advantage in modern society .

    Ah so you decide what the debate is about?

    Sure you can be stemming the flood of firearms. Do you think all countries have such high accidents rates with firearms as the USA?
     
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    Good post Rich. I just don't understand their opposition to gun ownership. If they know criminals and those who would do them harm already get weapons, what is the main argument against those who obey the laws having them?

    I don't know about you, but I would not be willing to take that chance.
     
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    As are guns. The protection of ones very life is more important than the conveneience of getting to the store or a job faster, as such the Firearm is more important than the Plane and Car. Just my opinion of course.

    Also, just for kicks we have a right to bear arms explicitly written, however vehicles and other conveniences were never mentioned...so take that for what it's worth as well.

    Not going to work here k995. If you dispute this, then tell me what the real reason for gun concern is, and be sure to back it up with some documentation. Society has decided there is too much gun crime, not me. This is exactly where the argument stems from.

    Accident rates will happen, it's the ones who purposely use them for harm that we need to worry about. The same ones who wont give a rats ass about some new legislation or two.
     
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    I don't. They are not as suicidal as they portray themselves to be. If Iran's leaders really believed what they tell the poor schlub, they would be the first to go wear the vest and get their 72 virgins.
     
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    Why not regulate everyone have faom padding in their homes so incase they trip, they won't get a boo boo. Did your parents round off all the 90 degree corners when you were a kid?
     
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