Herd immunity.

"""As I understand it; Trump wanted to apply herd immunity"""

What does that mean to apply herd immunity? You don't know what you are talking about. The only government policy that would quicken the pace of herd immunity is getting out the vaccines asap and giving them to people.

 

Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw184HEVpjVwBRkXTHOD8bLD&cshid=1611823995638

 

Recover or be vaccinated.

 

Google "Trump herd mentality" where he states without vaccine

 

Ummm, commercial veterinary practice immunity is based on vaccination. As usual, the demographic who claims science as their guide is ignorant of science. Trump had nothing on you guys. Birds of a feather....

 

You are quite wrong in your first sentence. MSM and apostles of the official narrative incessantly ridiculed the concept of herd immunity.

Sweden was scorned by the MSM and the apostles of the official narrative. If you missed all that, you must have been snoozing when it happened.

Herd immunity is a natural biological process for all herd animals. That's why we all have immune systems, to defeat bacteria and virus.

It is only the arrogance of man pretending he alone can deliver it by way of vaccination that is the laughable part. Arrogant scientists claiming they can deliver it is the flaw here.

To some degree or another herd immunity has been here for months. The fraud of the bogus PCR tests and the "number of cases" covered up the fact that herd immunity has developed in many places.

 

There was no vaccine developed in the UK. (Nor was there one developed in the US by the way.) So, I go back to my question...why would Trump allow vaccinations in the UK before they started in the US if he is responsible for the the development of the vaccine?

 

Where in Article II of the US Constitution is POTUS empowered with "allowing vaccinations"? Where in that document is POTUS empowered to make any public health decisions like that at all?

My God, has everybody drunk the Kool Aid?

 

If you follow the entire thread to which you are referring, I am responding to the assertion that Trump is responsible for the development of the vaccine. If that was the case, I was asking how the 'America First' could have allowed another country to begin vaccinating before his own country. This has nothing to do with the Constitution or a POTUS making healthcare decisions.

 

Was Trump in charge of vaccinations in the UK?

 

Don't ask me.....I'm not the one making the claims.

 

WTF?

 

No, absolutely not. Not by Spring time. If Biden has said this for real ... he had smoked something good.
And I would like to know what he smoked ...

Jokes aside, I would like to read Biden's words. I heard that he said that he wanted 100,000,000 vaccinations before of March 31st.
That's not herd immunity in the United States.

 

Of course not - that's my point! If Trump supporters insist that he was the one responsible for expediting the vaccine, it would follow that he would have 'first dibs' on it.

 

Biden didn't say it. His communications director said it in a press briefing.

 

Look, ALL that "herd immunity" means is that the disease in question has killed all the subjects it readily can. It assumes there has been NO vaccination. The disease has been let to "run its course" and has "burned itself out" The survivors are the strong ones, they have "herd immunity".

Once you start vaccinating people the entire population, (or the vast majority) will be immune due to that, but you aren't talking about "herd immunity" once you start vaccinating

Trump wasn't ridiculed so much as called out for the inhuman monster he was since he was willing to let about 4 million people die to make his stock market and unemployment numbers look better.

 

Now we know how has smoked some good stuff ...

Anyway, the real herd immunity occurs when you vaccinate the 70% of the population. In the US this means to vaccinate abot 230,000,000 citizens.

Within next March 31st? It's unrealistic.

 

Okay, now I get it. You can make claims - like Trump is responsible for the expedited vaccine. But when you are asked questions about it, you dodge.

 

I never made that claim. You are confusing me with someone else. Im not sure where you're coming from?


I did say that the development of the vaccine was expedited because federal regulations were waived. That is obvious.



Now, what was this comment about and how did it relate to anything I've posted?........

 

Incorrect.

herd im·mu·ni·ty

noun

1. resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination.
   "the level of vaccination needed to achieve herd immunity varies by disease but ranges from 83 to 94 percent"
   
   

See above. You’ve swallowed all the garbage media has been serving you under the guise of “science” for so long you know less about herd immunity than Trump.

Incorrect. Herd immunity can be a product of immunity induced by natural infections, vaccines, or a combination of the two.

At this point it’s time to let go of Trump and start educating yourself so you don’t get ridiculed for denial of science.

 

So your claim that Trump is responsible for the vaccine hinged on the fact that he waived federal regulations? A few posts back I explained that the FDA ignored that waiver.

 

Here's a very specific comment of Trump's that was (deservedly) ridiculed:

“You develop immunity over a period of time, and I hear we’re close to 15%. I’m hearing that, and that is terrific. That’s a very powerful vaccine in itself.”

 

A society developing a condition of herd immunity over a period of time is not ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet that right now, 150 million Americans have developed an immunity to COVID. Maybe more.

 

Why do you keep misrepresenting my comnent? Is dishonesty your default position? If you can't disuss something in an honest manner, just stop.

 

At the begining of this irrational fear and panic mongering, it was said that a vaccine was at least two years away. It was said to be impossible to see a vaccine before the end of 2020. Part of that was because of federal rules and regulations regarding the testing of vaccines prior to releasing them for public consumption. The relaxing of those rules and regulations did indeed speed up the process.


I'm not sure why some refuse to accept that fact.