Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

Also I don't want to see any mention of how Hitler was inspired by George Washingtons race laws and Slave codes.!

 

so you have a hierarchy of prejudice with white Jewish Europeans at the top, got it.

Not racist at all.

 

Nobody ever said that racism against Jews is worse than racism against black people.

If you want to create a thread about racism against black people go ahead but this is not the appropriate place to discuss it.

 

The vast majority of Jews in Germany did not vote communist and were not members of the Communist party. The same goes for most other countries in Western and Central Europe. As far as their political activity and voting was concerned, the Jews of Western and Central Europe were simply not communists.

Therefore trying to use Jewish involvement in the Soviet Union to justify Hitler's hatred of the Jews in Germany and the murder of millions of European Jews in the Holocaust, simply is illogical and irrational.

 

The UK government commissioned a report about racism within left wing politics. the barrister they employed concluded that the left wing parties practiced a hierarchy of racism, whereby White Jewish Europeans were top priority and black ppl were least priority.

 

This thread is not about racism against black people.

 

Don't worry you won't. The only philosopher who contributed at all to Hitler's peculiar form of socialism was Nietzsche. Based on what I've read of Mein Kampf Hitler's understanding of history prior to WWI is pretty close to nil. Now go haunt another thread or restrict your comments to things related to this one.

 

Nietzsche wasn't socialist. Neither was Hitler. And Neitzche was vocally opposed to anti-Semitism and ethnic nationalism.

 

Illogical and irrational to us, as civilized people. Not so much to a man looking for any excuse to hate the Jewish community. To him, it just gave him one more excuse, out of many to engage in mass murder, violence and intimidation alot of which he did to his own Germans(night of long knives, anyone?)

He was a butcher and a murderer, that much is unmistakable.

 

Nonsense Nietzsche certainly wasn't but top down socialist control of everything as Hitler did through massive public private partnerships very much is.

 

That doesn't remotely resemble anything involving Nietzche. He never advocated the collective ownership of the means of production and his fanboys tend to be on the far right, not on the far socialist side. And Hitler literally chased the socialists out of his party.

 

Hence the words 'at all'. The only thing hitler got from Nietzsche was sort of side ways support for his own messiah complex.

 

That's according to the official story. That has yet to be proven.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-11#post-1074251449

 

Just cuz you deny it doesn't mean it hasn't been proven.

 

Please show what I wrote that is untrue: i.e. "a conspiracy theory" or a "hasty generalization".

It is a simple fact that the majority of the early Communist Party leadership was Jewish and that millions of Russians died at the hands of Communist monsters like Genrikh Yagoda and Leonid Reichman.

It is also a simple fact that many of the brightest, most generous and ethical people in the world are Jewish.

My overall contention is that no single race, religion or nationality is exclusively good or evil except in Hollywood's MSM where the Germans are always bumbling and sadistic blockheads and the Jews are all noble, virtuous and courageous victims.

Regrettably, decades of anti German bigotry inherent in Western MSM Holocaust fiction has poisoned and deceived into believing such bigoted stereotypes.

Trying to objectively analyze what are, I feel, Hitler's conflicted feelings about the Jews is not the same thing as excusing the horrors that followed

Because Hitler had a significant number of Jewish friends, business associates, and fellow artists throughout his whole life, it is, I think, a well founded opinion that Hitler feared and was hostile to the Jews he didn't know because they were so closely related to the world's Communist leadership.
At one point, the Communist Party had control of all of Bavaria and was close to dominating all of Germany.

Imagine if Germany had fallen to the Communists earlier. The USSR and a Communist Germany would have made an invincible combination with unlimited Russian manpower and natural resources and sophisticated German weaponry.

As it was, Stalin's forces were already in offensive positions ready to sweep through the rest of Poland, Germany, France and Westward from there.(2)

Germany didn't attack Russia because of the puerile reason that Hitler wanted to rule the world. Hitler decided to attack because German intelligence discovered Stalin's plan to invade and that's why the Germans decided to attack and enjoyed such impressive victories but that's another topic.

Thanks,




(1). "Stalin's Jews"
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED


(2). "Did Stalin Plan to Attack Hitler in 1941? The Historiographical Controversy Surrounding the Origins of the Nazi-Soviet War"

http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/art...urrounding-the-origins-of-the-nazi-soviet-war

EXCERPT " He [Victor Suvorov] cites a lack of defensive preparations, such as the construction of fortified lines and anti-tank ditches, and notes their deployment in hidden areas (such as woods) as evidence of the intention of the soviet leadership to conceal an imminent offensive operation." CONTINUED

 

The vast majority of Jews in Germany did not vote communist and were not members of the Communist party. The same goes for most other countries in Western and Central Europe. As far as their political activity and voting was concerned, the Jews of Western and Central Europe were simply not communists.

Therefore trying to use Jewish involvement in the Soviet Union to justify Hitler's hatred of the Jews in Germany and the murder of millions of European Jews in the Holocaust, simply is illogical and irrational.

 

“America in the early 20th century was the leading racist jurisdiction in the world,” says Whitman, who is a professor at Yale Law School. “Nazi lawyers, as a result, were interested in, looked very closely at, [and] were ultimately influenced by American race law.” - History.com

If we're intent on getting to the root of Hitler's regime...this is vital discourse surely.

 

Why were the Jews of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya persecuted and sent to camps during WWII? Were they all communists? Were they planning to help Russia invade Germany?

 

wrong again!

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Nazism
Nazism - Wikipedia
Hitler at times redefined socialism. When George Sylvester Viereck interviewed Hitler in October 1923 and asked him why he referred to his party as 'socialists' he replied: Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning.

 

Yes. This was when he was pressured to come up with an argument for why he was still a socialist after having already kicked the socialists from the party, outlawing the socialist party, outlawing labor unions, and promoting additional privatization (which is the opposite of socialism).

 

Apparently every single Jew that was sent to a concentration camp or ghetto, was a Communist. Even the children. All Communists!!! And they all betrayed the German army during world war I!!!

All of them!!! No reason to put them on trial or present actual evidence against them! They were all guilty they all knew it and they had to be punished!!!

 

Re:

Firstly, I would think that if a group of people was a perceived threat to the State it wouldn't matter where you were and I never said that all Jews were Communists. I've only stated and supported the fact that the early Communist Party was dominated by Jewish leadership.
I believe that it is noteworthy that in 1925 Germany's Communist Party became Stalinist and loyal to the Soviet leadership in Moscow.(1)

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I hope that I've been clear in not suggesting that Germany's Jews were disloyal to Germany with the obvious exception of organized Jewish resistance groups.
It seems as if Hitler recognized and appreciated the military service of Germany's Jews in WW 1 because he conferred honors on Jewish Veterans already in Palestine.(2) That certainly doesn't seem like something a real Jew hater would do.

Finally, are you beginning to see why I feel that Hitler was more conflicted about his feelings towards Jews as opposed to his having a blind hatred of them?

Thanks,




(1) "Communist Party of Germany"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany


(2) “When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers”
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-when-hitler-honored-jewish-soldiers-1.5254336

EXCERPT “The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine.” CONTINUED

 

1) was an ANTI-NAZI party that was persecuted by the Nazis and 2) has been torn apart before. Nazis literally outlawed Jews from holding public office, including serving as soldiers. You "exceptions" were either hiding their race or were mixed race. Their laws removed citizenship from all Jew and this has been quoted for you. How is that not hatred?

 

Most of these people who fought for Germany during world war II were not Jews, they were Mischlinge, which means they were not Jews under German law or even Jewish religious law.

And once again most Jews in Germany did not vote communist and were not members of the Communist party, therefore declaring them all to be enemies of the state because of the relationship between Jews and the Soviet Union was both irrational, illogically and bigoted.

 

And that different from the American persecution of the Japs how exactly?
Help us understand where the evil extreme hatred is when we are just as guilty and seen to be the good guys? Explain