Holy Synod condemns anti Islamic movie " incompatable with Christian values"

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No say it ain't so.

    did you just ask if the few jews StuartWolfe was talking to represent all jews? Wow. amazing. there may be hope for you yet.
     
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    Stu.

    No, I don't have proof that you are a Christian, but I don't actually really care.

    I don't mean that as harsh, but at this moment in time, I think this has all gone beyond a chat from a theoligcal perspective.

    Ask yourself who created Bolshevism and Communism? Ask how many were starved, butchered, put into concentration camps, and tortured in the most terrible and deviant of manners? It wasn't a Muslim, Christian, or Hindu creation, not even those poor Scientlogosists can be blamed for this one - it was Jews, atheist Jews in the main, but so what, what is new?

    Due to the slanted and laughable education system, few know enough about the fact that the number of victims were in the range of 35-50million.

    Yes.

    Too large for us to even imagine.

    And most of these were Russian Christians. Many Christians churches raized to the ground, as well.

    People bleat on about NS, they forget, that it was not Germany that declared war on Britian, it was the other way around.

    They also forget that the Reich were well aware of the threat and menace of communism of the day, which, make no error, was brutal and ruthless, there was NOTHING ethical or noble in it.

    What of the masses of war crimes committed by the Red Army, war crimes are war crimes, are they not, and raping almost all of Berlin, is a war crime, on a mass scale.

    Yet Marxist Israel pays tribute formally to the Red Army.

    Can you imagine, paying tribute to a movement that probably murdered their way through more people, than any other genocidal or mass murder.

    What matters to me, is the here and now, and the near future, and because of utter psychopaths, who have often made their billions, not by working hard and fair, but by what we would call, by any other name, immoral and criminal, we are led by crazies, that do not merit being called leaders, for they only represent the interests, of a tiny % of people.

    But as far as your religion aspect goes, look, Stu, I hate to tell you this, but Jews have tricked you.

    You were warned about deceivers were you not?

    You were warned about false prophets, were you not?

    Both describe well organised Jewry today, which has used Christianity.

    In the US, at least.

    That is why you have that crazy rapture document there, a false doctrine, only about 200yrs old, or less.

    Came from a guy that wrote his version of hte bible, he had backing from Zionist Jews.

    Thus, what some call Christian Zionist evolved to what it is today, and do you know what Jews think of Christian Zionists? They believe them to be useful idiots.

    There was even one that said that today, on here, he said worse actually, but he was actually telling the truth, that is how organised Jewry will view so called Christian Zionists, like absolute useful idiots, that can be milked.

    Quite why Christian Zionists do not have enough self respect to find this unacceptable, and thus, return, if anything, to the core messages of Jesus, not this perversion, I do not know, too far gone??

    The curious thing is, and I can evidence this, is that while the relationship between CZ's and Jews may appear symbiotic, there is a somewhat disturbing narrative, that runs through it.

    I know you will deny it, lol, but it is true, I have listened to this, from enough sources, an what appears to be a a little happy alliance, between these CZ's, and the Jews, what the CZ's, and the assorted rapture crew believe, is that all Jews should booger off to Israel.

    They need this part to happen, or at least as many as they can. All part of their magic spells.

    And delusions.

    Anyway, that is the objective, get the Jews to israel, which may explain a lot, in terms of their apparent support for Jews.

    And that is what Israel want too, they want it for population and economic reasons, that is why they have long tried to get more Jews to go there.

    Not always worked as well as they, and everyone else, had hoped.

    Anyway, both want that.

    There may be some mad religous Jews who have a mad magic aspect too, but for the Jews, it is mainly that they need more rich Jews to go live there.

    Once that has been achieved, the idea would be to build that weird temple, you know, the one in which Jews will do that perfectly normal and totally sane thing of mass animal sacrifice, which is said to last for three days.

    Oh...obviously, in order for that slaughterhouse/deviant temple to be built, I forgot to add, you would need to destory the Mosque there.

    Which could sting.

    Anyway, assuming all of that genocide and animal torture goes well for the Jews, and, one would assume, those Christian Zionists (who would not be allowed into Israel, lol), the next bundle of misanthropic psychopathy, comes in the little know truth that for those three days, the Jews will actually worship and induce Satan. Again, spin it as you will, that is the deal, the Jews will carry out their sickness as above, in order to induce Satan.

    This Satan will come, in the shape of a man, who will be Jewish. Or a crypto Jew. And for a period, or so it goes, he will be seen by many as a saviour or messiah, etc, etc.

    But no.

    Doesn't end there.

    As if this is not all so easy to accept, already.

    Jesus...comes back.

    Yes.

    After ALL this time, Jesus returns. One would assume to face Satan, who remember, is a Jew, a human, in some sort of last battle...

    Which, to CZ's at least, would need to meant a nuke holocaust, if you will.

    Aimed at who, by who?

    Well, aimed at everyone, but also, it has to be said, at all the Jews, they must, according to the CZ model, they must all be incinerated.

    How many are there today? 18mill? Well, the rapture gig only allows for 144,000 of you Jews to survive what they want for you.

    Just sayin'.

    Go look yourselves, I would, if I were a Jew.

    144,000 left is not many.

    Oh.

    I forgot.

    Those that they let live - you must rid yourself of your Jewishness, and instantly convert to them.

    Or else.

    So.

    Not looking good there.
     
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    Satan is a jew. Marvellous I haven't heard that before.

    Jack I really don't mean this as an insult, but this latest screed is kinda of disjointed and at times incomprehenisble to me, the reader. I'm sure it makes sense to you, but I think you use to much internal shorthand for others to follow the flow.

    Just a thought, but maybe it in terms of effectiveness of communication, you shorten the posts by a) becoming more consise b)breaking up different vaguely connected concepts into discrete posts.

    Why preach to the converted jack, that ain't no fun.
     
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    I do not think, in all my years of looking at this, that millions of Jews were exterminated, as part of an all out programme of genocide, by means of Zyclone B, is what were meant to be dedicated chambers for murder.

    I would refer you back to this vid, and ask that you watch it...



    [video=youtube;PWCOjOj4RAU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCOjOj4RAU[/video]

    And this will never be watched, but one can try...


    [video=youtube;bzBpcuE8mpc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBpcuE8mpc[/video]
     
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    I was giving you the reality of the CZ thinking, not mine, I do not believe in a satan.

    Don't take it from me, listen to someone better placed than either of us>>>>

    [video=youtube;YYWlB64upSc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWlB64upSc[/video]
     
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    You mean how he was a liar and a child rapist? "Let the little children come to me" indeed.
     
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    Jews are as different as the stars in the sky and they don't hate any group of people with the exception perhaps of those who say and do hateful things against them.

    My best friends are of all religions and Catholics and Jews get along just fine here in these United States, thank you very much.
     
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    The stars in the sky do not lie, subvert, cheat, steal, and threaten all of mankind.

    That's organised Jewry.

    But then I would barely expect you, or your 'friends', to actually concede the point.
     
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    Just Yesterday I lied, subverted, cheated, stole, and threatened all of mankind.
    I forgot to do the same today - Will get right on it.
     
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    Dang, I also forgot to do these acts all week; all year, maybe for the last who knows how many years. I, too gotta make up for lost time, I guess. hahahaha
     
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    I do agree with this statement. All I can say about the following statement is, "It is about time that people started to realize who is behind what and the purposes for them funding and releasing such things.

    The statement:

    "its release at this specific time is part of a malicious campaign targeting defamation of religions aiming to divide the people, most notably the Egyptian people."

    All I can say is that Allah IS Al Wahid Ilah and we are on HIS time now.
     
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    All I can say to that is that if a crude amateur video of this nature released on Youtube represents any significant threat to Egyptian unity then the Egyptian nation is nothing but a joke.

    Now then you make much about defamation so what are your thoughts about the desecration of the US flag being flown at halfmast in remembrance of the victims of 9/11 within the embassy compound? Lives which were taken by your coreligionists in the name of your religion and their flag and your religious creed being raised instead. Was this not a far more significant and despicable act than uploading any cheap video to Youtube?
     
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    Could it have been a jewish girl that laughed at you when you dropped your draws?
    something certainly must have sparked that raging flame of hatred in you jack, I don't think anyone can come to a rational conclusion that REQUIRES such hatred.
    I could speculate all night, but I have to go to the shabbos goy meeting of Organized Jewry Inc. They let me eat all the kreplach I want.
    I'll let em know you are on to them.
     
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    Don't eat too many kreplach there - It will make you fat, so you won't be able to run when we will try to get rid of you.
     
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    Rubbish /Utter Dreck : As are taught in Jew school that they are different from Gentiles If you've not seen my earlier post I'll repeat it :

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    (Like Hell - LOL)

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    Ashken-lady , there are - thank gawd , increasing numbers of Goyim/gentiles /Akum who're no longer gullible enough to accept/swallow Yiddisher lies./Zionists trickery.


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    AshenLady, forget your vows
    AshenLady, forget your vows
    Save the city
    Save the city
    RIGHT NOW!! (The Doors)

    AshenLady was born a Jew and will die a Jew and there are oh so many women who say it loud and proud, buddy boys!!!
     
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    I would like to bring you to Jesus in a manner of speaking. Hahaha.
     
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    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) would a British Stormfront flunky know about the relations between Jews and Catholics in the United States?

    Not a god(*)(*)(*)(*)ed thing.

    AshenLady is right - Catholics and Jews get along fine in our country.
     
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    No. Do you THINK I would have been?

    Come on, I've actually defended the Talmud here, for crying out loud. I'm almost insulted that you asked me that.

    There's no biblical proof of that. Actually, there's more proof that the Antichrist will come from Europe.

    Not in any of MY Biblical studies. And I think I know more about that than you. But okay, where's your scriptural proof of that? This ought to be good.

     
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    Except these people are not "holocaust" poster children. The very fact that these apocraphyl stories have been exposed and wer'e talking about them is indicative that as time goes and increasingly rigourous academic research is conducted, these stories are debunked. Apart from the attacks (unwarranted since revisionist dont really understand a literary device called poetic license) on Wiesel, I doubt you can find anybody that actually knows anything about the holocaust that believes them.

    There is a finite set of these myths and virtually all of them have come to light by the work of serious scholars.

    Yes, lying is lying. delusion is delusion. You can find a couple of complete frauds, but I doubt very much that any of the real survivors gave any thought to making money. the whole notion (only partially correct imo) of the exploitation of the holocaust to make money appears long long after the end of the war. You have read Finkelstien haven't you?

    Yes the commies lie. Considering they lost 25 million of their own people, ya think they might not be prone to treating the nazi with kindness and fairnes. Given the very nature of their society, they weren't too worried about their own war crimes and had absolutely no need to deflect anything. Psst - the soviets crimes were not addressed niether were the british or american or free french etc. gee I wonder why?

    Which is exactly my point, you are using a miniscule number of false accusations and apocraphyl stories that when weighed against the enormous preponderance of evidence mean little or nothing. Granted a few of the more outlandish ones like soap and lamp shades stir up horrific images, but no more horrific than those of the bulldozers pushing mountains of corpse into mass graves. And you can bet there thousands of those kinds of images for every false story you can dig up.

    But the true denier is trained to ignore the enormous quantity of hard evidence that completely trashes his belief and focus on the few instances that he can point to and crow and do what bigots always do - turn them into the condemnation of all.

    There is no question that the jews of Nazi europe were targeted for mass extermination. This places them in a different category (with roms, gays and mentally handicapped) than all other victims.

    The actual exact number will never be determined. Do you think that Hitler, Himmler, Eichmann and the rest of the tottenkopfs were stupid and didn't know they were committing massive crimes? That they would actually clearly document direct orders, or would they make vague inoccuous references like "special action"?

    I do not think 6 million jews were exterminated in the gas chambers. A very large number were executed by the Einzatzgruppen. Another large number died of disease and starvation. How many were gassed? anyone that give you an exact number is not credible.

    Now David Cole: you are familiar with the repudiation of his revisionism including all his little videos and his consequent fading into obscurity aren't you? so the guy you are referencing no longer believes in the stuff you take as true.

    But just a few quick comments:
    He first references the Leuchter report which as long since been totally discredited, even by him. He was an amateur buffoon, who went to Aushwitz on his honeymoon and had to steal his samples by vandalize the exhibits. the video below exposes exactly how laughably incompetent he was. And then there is the fascinating documentry - Mr.Death- the rise and fall of Fred Leuchter.

    Cole then lies and says that the Institute for Forensic Research confirmed his findings. - funny the report says exactly the opposite.
    this link has copy of the IFR report. http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/.

    He claims that the roof vents couldnt be seen in blow ups of aerial recon photos. I was competely unaware that the allies had the technology to take pictures from 30,000 ft with a resolution that would enable anyone to see detail a small as 2 ft square, no matter how much you could enlargen it.

    "Prussian Blue" is in evidence in the defumagation rooms because if you had bothered to do your own research, you would have found that defumigation with zyklon B requires at least 24 hours of exposure without ventilation and were conducted in rooms of wood or brick. In a gas chamber, the gas kills very quickly, the is high humidity and the gas was vented with a few minutes and the walls were painted concrete. Given those parameters, all you have to do now is learn something about the chemical behaviour of potassium cyanide.

    This video is extremely informative and hoists Leuchter by his own words and actions. Much of the footage is from Mr. Death.
    [video=youtube;47jeOYLauxw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47jeOYLauxw[/video]




    Interesting series of questions there whose negative answers in no way discredits the existing evidence of events. I don't know of anybody that has ever claimed that 6 million jews were gassed. You certainly arent' going to see that in any holocaust museum or in any reputable history written.

    Whosaid that the holocaust can never be questioned? I can think of any number of researchers and scholars who have advanced our knowledge of events AND debunked the more aggregious lies.

    Again. Hitler et.al. weren't dummies. Now I'm sure if they were as intelligent as most deniers, they would have not only written specific detailed orders, but they would have made movies and let the world know what they were doing to advance racial purity and protect the world from the evil jews.

    Death certificates? get serious.

    Wrong again. I did my research. I investigated revisionism in great detail. I would love to see the evidence that organized jewry (?) made it a thought crime not to believe. You can read the law and posit the rationale used by those nations who have such laws. Take a look at Germany's law Holocaust denial laws



    I watch both videos. Both have some little truth and lots of lies, misrepresentations, false logic, and sophistry, spurious and specious claims, ignorance and simple stupidity.

    how about you watch mine.
     
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    Marlowe you are being weasely.
    You know as well as I that EVERY damm religion has the same kind of "we are right and everybody else is trash" doctrines in both their mainstreams and cults.

    Its only your jew hatred that makes this some sort of revelation of eeeevilll jews.

    Are you a christian?



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    Why?

    That is like my arguing that I can decode Lord of The Rings, better than you.

    It means zip.

    In terms of actual reality.

    And as I keep trying to say, the narrative I gave was not what I think, Satan being Jewish etc, it is clearly what some American Christian Zionists believe.

    Take it up with them, chap.

    :p

    Two very distubed men>>>>>[video=youtube;p8mdUScZxL8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8mdUScZxL8[/video]
     
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    Except that they still are.

    [video=youtube;iXGh9d0-xKY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGh9d0-xKY[/video]

    And the lady that was defacating the diamonds, etc, and the legendary soap, and the muscles that had a life of their own, and the different coloured national Jew smoke, it goes on and on and on, and time after it, it proves to be the weird imagination of a Jew, who on many occasion, was sitting in comfort, in Switzerland.

    These people were held up as being like the Witnesses of Witnesses.

    They have lied a lot.

    Am I expected to then just blindly believe the next buch, that I am told are definitely and 100% telling the truth, this time?

    Hardly.

    The bottom line.

    I do not, having looked at this, years ago, and having revisited it many times since, believe there is any reason to think that six million, or even 4million Jews, were sent to their death, as a direct order, by way of gas chambers.

    It is also a totally simple narrative, to think that Hitler was MAD, and he just got out of the Jew hating side of the bed one day, and, for no reason at all, started hating on Jews.

    But maybe he did, maybe, like all those other 109 times, and the 'anti semitism' that you see today, everyone just woke up out of the Jew hating side of the bed, and, for no reason at all, just began hating all Jews.

    :eyes:
     
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    Now David Cole: you are familiar with the repudiation of his revisionism including all his little videos and his consequent fading into obscurity aren't you? so the guy you are referencing no longer believes in the stuff you take as true.(Jonsa)..


    Um..no, it was more like a death threat by some Jew terror group.

    Keep it real, Jonsa..

    People like this lot are just thugs..


    http://www.jdl-uk.org/2012/07/jdl-vice-president-ari-ephraim-rubin-is.html
     
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    Because I've had to explain Basic Christianity 101 to you on multiple occasions. Not that it bothers me to do so, but I clearly know more than you on the matter.
     
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