Homosexuality will never be or should be a Protect Class

So what? He was the product of an inferior culture.His actions are not necessarily something that we should emulate.

It has failed with inferior cultures yes. We are not them. The variables are not the same. There has never been another nation like us before.

Excluding people from rights and privileges enjoyed by one part of the population also furthers separation. So I am not sure what your point is here. Should we have kept interracial marriages illegal since they lead to further separation?

Unity can occur just as easily if you simply abandon your own values and agree with us, right? I am guessing that isn't an option for you. Well, if it's not an option for you, why would you think it would be an option for us?

You're argument is based on the assumption that everyone agrees that there are objective values that are good. And that is simply not the case. Good and evil and right and wrong have held dramatically different meanings not only between cultures but even in our own history.

You never had a reason to hyphenate because you were always part of the majority as a straight white male christian. That is no longer true. You're going to have to adapt now, just like the rest of us have had to do in the past. You're going to have to compromise like we did. This is the new America. This is what we are now.

Monogamy was not necessarily a biblical value. There are countless examples of that.



It was not a Roman value either. Roman traditional values included slaves and whoring and concubines.

 

Don't be fooled, my friend. All they have to do is change the wording from "children" to "persons". A child is a person and can give consent. Besides, a 15 year-old is considered to be more mature than a 10 year-old. If they are indoctrinating children in third and fourth grade in some schools with propaganda about homosexuality, what's to stop them from allowing them to have civil unions with adults? In some countries, like Argentina or France, liberals suggested lowering the voting age from 18 to 16. They can do the same thing with the age of consent when it comes to marriage and sex. And with this ruling, pedophiles and their teenage partners can use the same argument that if they are not allowed to get married, they are discriminated. It's an idiotic argument, but it was used by the five Supreme Court justices and because of that, it can be used by others.

TRFjr is right. They are destroying civilization by doing this.

 

Interracial marriages were heterosexual marriages, back then. They were still traditional marriages. The comparison to "gay marriages" or any other absurd definition is irrelevant.

 

It's social engineering from the extreme Left.

For those who are interested in the historical background of all this supposed "equality" stuff, read on.

Here’s a left-wing homosexual journalist on a left wing site, The Huffington Post, who admits that there has always been a connection between homosexual behavior and fascism.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann..._b_136697.html

The history of totalitarianism and LGBT propaganda, is strange indeed.

The Bolsheviks were very permissive of homosexuality at first. In 1919, the Soviet Bolsheviks helped Communists in Hungary get to power. At Lenin’s orders, the Hungarian Communist regime immediately began implementing a school curriculum that included “sex education”. It was meant to introduce children to early forms of pornography, sex literature and even the notion that homosexuality was normal and healthy. Bela Kuhn, the leader of the Hungarian Communist Party, ordered the education bureaucrats to attack patriotism and faith in God, and to undermine the traditional family, through their school curriculum. Now you know where things like gay indoctrination in sex education and sometimes pornographic literature in our schools, come from. Their sinister origins are older than the members on the local school board.

However, the downfall of the Communist regime in Hungary came about in a matter of months. The Commies didn’t succeed, but they didn’t stop. They took that program of indoctrination to Western democracies. Their Marxist friends were eager to implement it in the “bourgeoisie” schools of capitalist countries.

In Russia, later on, the Communists made homosexuality illegal. They didn’t need their gay friends anymore. The “useful idiots”, outlived their usefulness. But the Commies would use homosexuals and lesbians as mascots in the West, and their propaganda would become a part of the Left’s political program in free Western countries, in the decades to come. It was part of their attack on traditional ethics and morality. Among their political tactics, was the lie that religious freedom was actually oppressive and discriminatory toward atheists. This is where the ACLU tactic of bullying and attacking religious freedom and the 1st Amendment “the free exercise thereof”, comes from.

The Bolsheviks in Russia and the Marxist intellectuals and useful idiots in free countries, have always said that in order for their “revolution” to succeed, the foundations of traditional Western ethics had to be destroyed. It was more than objections to an economic system.

That program of indoctrinating the masses and destroying Western traditional ethics, was the work of what was known as the Frankfurt School. Here is a short video showing what the Communists of the Frankfurt School have done for decades, and how even our news media is functioning according to their political agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

 

Don't be naïve, my friend.

It was all because of bullying and propaganda by the gay and lesbian organizations. Many people afraid to disagree on this because if they do, they are called "bigots", they can be marginalized and can even lose their jobs. It's happened already, in the last two to three years. This is not freedom, it's totalitarianism.

Here’s a left-wing homosexual journalist on a left wing site, The Huffington Post, who admits that there has always been a connection between homosexual behavior and fascism.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann..._b_136697.html

The Bolsheviks were very permissive of homosexuality at first. In 1919, the Soviet Bolsheviks helped the Communists in Hungary get to power. At Lenin’s orders, the Hungarian Communist regime immediately began implementing a school curriculum that included “sex education”. It was meant to introduce children to early forms of pornography, sex literature and even the notion that homosexuality was normal and healthy. Bela Kuhn, the leader of the Hungarian Communist Party, ordered the education bureaucrats to attack patriotism and faith in God, and to undermine the traditional family, through their school curriculum. Now you know where things like gay indoctrination in sex education and sometimes pornographic literature in our schools, come from. Their sinister origins are older than the members on the local school board.

However, the downfall of the Communist regime in Hungary came about in a matter of months. The Commies didn’t succeed, but they didn’t stop. They took that program of indoctrination to Western democracies. Their Marxist friends were eager to implement it in the “bourgeoisie” schools of capitalist countries.

In Russia, later on, the Communists made homosexuality illegal. They didn’t need their gay friends anymore. The “useful idiots”, outlived their usefulness. But the Commies would use homosexuals and lesbians as mascots in the West, and their propaganda would become a part of the Left’s political program in free Western countries, in the decades to come. It was part of their attack on traditional ethics and morality. Among their political tactics, was the lie that religious freedom was actually oppressive and discriminatory toward atheists. This is where the ACLU tactic of bullying and attacking religious freedom and the 1st Amendment “the free exercise thereof”, comes from.

The Bolsheviks in Russia and the Marxist intellectuals and useful idiots in free countries, have always said that in order for their “revolution” to succeed, the foundations of traditional Western ethics had to be destroyed. It was more than objections to an economic system.

That program of indoctrinating the masses and destroying Western traditional ethics, was the work of what was known as the Frankfurt School. Here is a short video showing what the Communists of the Frankfurt School have done for decades, and how even our news media is functioning according to their political agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

 

Gee...if the problem is liberals would you prefer I say trinkets or gold nuggets?


You cannot correct a problem by denying the source of the problem.

 

But you said America loses. You're wrong. America wins.
SSM is correct to allowing people have equal rights, as the constitution says people should have.
So you are left with nothing.

 

Hard not to notice how you think that I said or CS Lewis said we were perfect or will ever be...and using past mistakes as a reason to uphold current much bigger ones is some seriously flawed logic.

Rape is not natural...I have been raped by a doctor as a child. Comments like this by unfeeling, uncaring bitter liberals disgust me. Any words that help sell your flawed agenda are considered worthy because to the warped leftist's the end always justifies the means.

 

Equality of all men. The right to pursue life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. That is what this nation has stood for and founded upon.
That you want to spit on that is the disgrace. And you want to do it in the name of self righteous hypocrisy. That is just low.

 

Strawman alert.

 

Then you definitely should learn chinese, because the USA, land of tolerance and mult-culteralism and founded upon that, is the wrong country for you to live in.
You seem to be another that wants the constitution to go away.

 

I lost the choice to openly speak my mind in business. I lost the choice to not have health insurance without penalty for doing so as well. My grand girls lost their expectation of privacy in her school locker room and bathroom.

 

It occurs frequently in nature. Both among humans and animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiological_theories_of_rape#Human_rape

Oh no, Someone on the internet called "Sadistic Savior" is being unfeeling and uncaring about something! Stop the presses!

Your personal experiences have nothing to do with anything, even if I was willing to take your word for it on an anonymous internet forum. Whether or not you were raped as a child is not evidence that rape is natural or not natural.

You should probably get used to being offended on here. It's likely to happen again.

 

So what. Society determines consent ages and laws. Not all that long ago, many people, girls especially, were married by 16. If they went to 18 unmarried, were considered a spinster. History of the consent laws has you being wrong. The age of consent laws has been getting older.

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They were not traditional. They were even illegal.

 

Funny thing...I say the same thing but there is no logic when it comes to liberals and their warped agendas.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/califor...ck-bathrooms-sports-teams-they-identify-with/

http://christiannews.net/2013/04/18...boys-in-girls-restrooms-approved-by-assembly/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/13/california-gov-brown-signs-transgender-student-bill/

 

1st - people who discriminate against other people because they think they are better is not a friend of mine.
Many people agree today, because the younger people have lived with a more tolerant world and are not scared of the boogie man anymore.

If you want to spit on the constitution, go ahead. But don't expect others to take the discrimination and hate any more.

Want me to go find some illuminati conspiracy BS for you to review also?

 

Sexual Orientation . 4th bullet point from the top

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/10/pedophilia-sexual-orientation

 

Slowly the old dinosaurs die off. Then the self righteous hypocrites will be gone and problem will be solved. It has been found, the source of the problem.

 

We all lose as we slide down the slope of depravity.

 

From SSM? Your girls lost no privacy. Fail.

You are free to speak your mind in your business, you can't deny service if you bought a business license to operate a business in a state that has discrimination laws. But you can certainly speak your mind.
Like Donald Trump, spoke his mind. No gov't agency did nothing.
Health ins, still has nothing to do with SSM. And if you decide not to get health insurance, then you care very little for your grand girls.

 

What am I suppose to see in those links? Besides some biased opinions.

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Nope. We all win. As our constitution says, equality for all men, women included. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We all win.
Whiners lose.

 

Of course. Advanced, educated, enlightened, and tolerant folks. Those devils abound in all first world, democratic nations.

Islamic theocracies don't put up with those subversives!

 

Health insurance issue was just thrown in there to show how liberals/progressives are all about control...NOT what they sell with their cute gimmicks.

And no matter how you deny it, my grand girls are as you said "failed" by a society so bent on lifting up perverted behaviors they chose to throw my grand girls liberties and rights under the bus.

The proof was in the link I provided...the only person your denial convinced is yourself...congrats, that is quite the accomplishment.

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Tolerant? Yeah, that's a hoot...considering the ONLY thing libs tolerate is like minded agreeing fools.

 

Your comment about "because they think they are better" is in your own warped and hate filled mind.

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Thank you for admitting the agenda so openly...the group that falsely sells itself as tolerant is all about silencing anyone that will not succumb to their depravity. Tolerant behavior is an action, not dead words used in attempts to win foolish arguments

 

We have defined the "All" for you. Consenting adults.

Adult consenting pedophile and a child who cannot consent. They are not both included in the class and therefore the action does not need be and should not be protected. It's very simple as everyone here has already stated.