Homosexuality will never be or should be a Protect Class

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  1. carpe diem

    carpe diem New Member

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    You do know that the rabid fighters for this issue have the "god's" on their side (god's as in psychologists) :

    http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/10/pedophilia-sexual-orientation

    This is a huge pandora's box that the left has opened...and yes it affects us all.
     
  2. carpe diem

    carpe diem New Member

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    Control. Loss of choice. Loss of liberties. Moral decay. This is what leftist policies and agendas bring us...from the side of the aisle that hypocritically sell themselves as open minded, for choice, and fighters for liberty and justice. The same side of the aisle that sells itself as supporters of small business...Hilarious.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is what republicans want (moral decay), we want freedom and equal rights for all

    some republicans would prefer to destroy the country than not get their way

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  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would ask you to explain how Christians are being "Forced" to do anything....but that would be a waste of time again, because you folks have yet to do so.

    Enjoy your Persecution Complex.
     
  5. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    and why would I refuse to discriminate? You come into my store, that's my store. You want to buy something off of my shelves? Those are my shelves and my stuff you want to buy.

    See, I know you say "simple really" but what you have done is simply done away with the concept of "private property". It might be open to people who I allow to shop there, but it's not really up to you to decide who I decide to do business with.

    At least not in a free society. Your idea is not free.
     
  6. dairyair

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    Just as good as you. You offered nothing to show I was wrong.

    Having sex when it's not dark, without being under the covers, and not doing it missionary style, is a perversion.
    Why do you think it's called missionary. Because only saintly people adhere to the strict moral guidelines of sex.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    What privacy rights do you speak of in the public domain?

    You hypothetical little girl's expectation? What expectation?
     
  8. sonofthunder73

    sonofthunder73 New Member

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    As a Christian who does not identify with the social conservatives, I fail to see how this ruling remotely affects the life of any heterosexual such as myself or many other posters on this board. If gay folk want our opinions on marriage and what it is or isn't from a Biblical point of view, they'll ask us (but I'm pretty sure they already know what it is). I don't understand why this is so hard to accept. Leave them alone.

    What I didn't like, though, was how the federal government (SCOTUS actually... it's all the same to me, they don't represent us very well in recent years) is forcing all states to obey. I support the equality and freedoms that all American citizens must have, but maybe this could have been done differently.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, would you also support a quick trip refusing to sell gas to black people, come on, Christians can be better then that..... I know it, you know it


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    Slippery slope fallacy: the post
     
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    Once you open the door to perversion------------------
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    I read these at work, so no. You can summarize if you want.

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    Yeah, your ancestors said the same thing about oral sex. Better get to stopping that perversion first.
     
  13. Serfin' USA

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    The courts have always been political. Holder is probably more political than most when it comes to the DOJ, but it's not just the left at fault with that. The left happens to be in power now, but the right has historically done some rather despicable things via the DOJ against states' rights regarding things like the drinking age and drug policy.

    Unfortunately, the DOJ will always be somewhat political in nature.
     
  14. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I guess that's one way of looking at.

    In the long run, social progress ends up working out. When we first reformed the system to handle racial integration, it didn't go very smoothly at first. Mistakes were made. Over time, however, it worked out.
     
  15. FreshAir

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    this was a bipartisan decision by the courts....
     
  16. Pred

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    True I represent myself, but I READ! I see whats on my feed. I see articles repeated over and over again about the same thing, written by different people. Do you doubt its happening? Then please explain why a shortage of female coders is news? Few women making Apps is something to worry about....why? It shouldn't be, because it means NOTHING besides a representation of reality. There is no male conspiracy to stop girls from becoming programmers, but these articles sure blame everything EXCEPT girls. Explain why? Explain why ANY industry that lack males is never discussed? Why is it ONLY a problem when there is a lack of females, gays, blacks, Hispanics, ect?
     
  17. Pax Aeon

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    1) My guess would be that some editor thinks it is. It's definitely not "hard news." As to why there are so few female programmers? There are any number of reasons and theories as to why, one is just as good as the other. Men in Nursing are only at 10% but as with programming, the number is growing.
     
  18. carpe diem

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    I love how the activist's act like gays were innocently just asking for photograph's, cakes and wedding ceremonies. You all can do better than that, I know it you know it. But the agenda to squash the church is just so important.
     
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    They got their special rights. Now people need to shut up about it.
     
  20. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just remember this. It's folks like you that make a point of hating gay people that make the concept of a protected class even possible in the first place. If people would get their stupid heads out of their stupid asses, we wouldn't need any protected classes. You're a part of the problem you're complaining about.
    Oh, so sorry, but reality is the other direction. Not only is that a different issue altogether, it's an entirely unrelated different issue altogether.

    I want you to remember this too. Nobody is talking about pedophilia but you and folks like you. In fact you seem almost obsessed with it. I'd get that checked out.


    No it doesn't. Pedophilia is inherently about violating the rights of a child. Same-sex marriage, while being totally and unequivocally unconnected to pedophilia, also involves consenting adults.

    You're so far off the mark that you, to borrow a phrase from my childhood, couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if it was 2 inches in front of you.

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    If you're a person looking for special rights for gay people, you're not satisfied with Friday's ruling because that only gives equal rights, not special rights. Special rights are what existed on Thursday.
     
  21. Junkieturtle

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    The church wouldn't even be a part of the conversation if the church realized that the church only gets to decide what happens in the church, not outside the church. Secular laws don't give a church what the church thinks and nor should it, they are two completely separate institutions.

    But to ease your out of control paranoia, just know that there are folks who support same-sex marriage who do not support forcing churches to do anything you're worried about.

    That's not entirely true I suppose. I AM in favor of forcing churches to realize their place, which is as a house of God, not a house of law. If churches and religious folks are going to stick their noses into business that doesn't concern them, expect some fallout. The same is true in reverse if the law tries coming inside the church.
     
  22. Junkieturtle

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    Once you open the door to perversion of common sense, you end up with folks who think their pitiful little musings about the universe constitute the way other people have to live their lives. You end up with folks who think they get to decide what is right and wrong more than other people.

    You end up with folks like you.
     
  23. CRUE CAB

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    Please quote anything about marriage in the constitution.
     
  24. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh goodness, you're right.

    Guess we better get rid of it altogether.

    Which is fine by me because no marriage and equal marriage are both equal.

    (By the way, did you mean to trample on your own point? If marriage isn't a right, same-sex marriage isn't a special right)
     
  25. carpe diem

    carpe diem New Member

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    Yep, you want choice(at least that's the sales gimmick used) Yet the left uses the lack of choice and freedoms and liberties to control the rest of society that will not cow tow to the latest liberal agenda.
     

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