Homosexuality will never be or should be a Protect Class

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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    who says you cant wake up one morning and decide you are transgender and a week later wake up and decide you aren't
    haven't we been told sexual orientation and sexual identity is fluid
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes it was meant to be exclude
    you cant disprove a negative
    you would have to show in any of those on the list of protected class ones in those classes was excluded to make your argument
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do you know how much that cost a business to now have to by regulations to provide 4 different bathrooms one male one female one handicap and now one gender natural
     
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    Well, the most common sense solution is to simply make it so that the only bathroom required is one that is both gender neutral and handicapped accessible.
     
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    The entire protected class concept needs to go, because once one is protected, they'll never give it up. For example, women are graduating at a higher rate than males in college. Logic would dictate that there no longer needs to be AA for college entrance nor special scholarships that exclude men. YET, you can barely find any male ONLY scholarships, but LOADS of female only ones. That needs to be flipped now to even the ratios, yet it will NOT happen anytime soon, if ever. It will be the same with Hispanics once they reach 50/50 with white people. They will still demand minority status after its long gone. Gay people will always demand equality even though they currently have it. There is not a single law on the books that says you can discriminate against a gay person, but not a straight person. The SAME laws apply to everyone, yet they don't have equal rights? Explain.
     
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    it will happen

    why? because of homophobes attacking homosexuality and making them in need of protected status
     
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    Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....then we also have this little separation clause.
     
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    Explain how the "separation clause" pertains to this. I don't think you can.
     
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    Face it bucko, your side lost.

    Why? Because of arguments like these that have no basis in reality.
     
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    Adding qualifiers like "The desire for non-consensual sex is not considered a sexual orientation by these laws" is pretty simple.
     
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    What is this animal that can give consent ? A dog barking doesn't count !
     
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    good point, religion is already a protected class.. because of those that discriminate against people with differing beliefs...... you can't be fired because of your religion, you can still be fired for not doing your job though

    homosexuals just want that same protection because of the homophobes that would discriminate against them, this would also apply to heterosexuals if someone fired them because they were heterosexual

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    so another that cant differentiate the difference between the sexual orientation and acting on that sexual orientation
    does a homosexual have to engage in homosexual sex before he can be a homosexual?
     
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    In the long run, I agree with ending this principle.

    It wasn't until recently that I figured we were ready to get rid of it now, although with the recent rash of black churches being burnt down, I think it's still relevant.
     
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    It seems obvious that the majority if not all of the reasons that people do not wish to allow others to live the way they want to is religion based distaste for who they are. Just as Christians in this country once persecuted women as witches, Atheists as devil worshipers, or even Irish folk as the wrong type of Christian...now they are focused on homosexuality.
     
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    IMO it seems that way because fire and brimstone preaching and imaginary demons are just so much more colorful, intrusive and loud than the voices of reason.
     
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    There should be no "protected class". Here's an idea: Why don't we treat everyone equally under the law instead.
     
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    Now, you're not making any sense, not that you were before, but I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you are saying a "Protected Class" was meant to exclude.....that's one way of looking at it I suppose as anti-discrimination laws only covered those groups who had been historically discriminated against by the majority; white males. If now, you feel that white males are being discriminated against and need the protection of the government, by all means, petition your local legislator about it. --- Problem solved.
     
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    If you think nothing is going to change, why are you whining about instead of taking political action to promote your cause?
     
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    that would be like saying we need to force Christian charities to give Muslims grants too

    now if it's a gov grant I agree with you, should be equal...


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    What about it? That time I looked you had the entire conservative movement, the religious right and tea party on your side, defending traditional and family values. What happened?
     
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    So basically, just have something in the state constitution that says something like "marriage is a union between two consenting adults" and then there's nothing more to it, right?

    deja vu!
     
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    One can wake up and decide anything they want, but one will never be able to decide on a weekly basis which bathroom they want to use.
    To get labeled, for a lack of a better term, Transgender, will take years of therapy and certification from a professional pshychiatrist.
    Anyone going into the wrong gender bathroom, can be prosecuted.
     
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    au contraire!

    http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB1266
     
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    So, private citizens should be able to discriminate as they see fit?
     

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