Horrible killing

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How many times do I have to explain it to you before you finally get it?

    Your turn. Prove you statement of fact that until the baby is born is a physical part of the mother. And do so citing the Embryological textbooks and journals.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You could but not required and certainly doesn't make you a human being. What percent of all human beings who have ever existed had one or even could have had one?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Go look up "third trimester".
     
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    No, it doesn't and I never said it did ....FUNNY HOW YOU MADE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT I ALLEGEDLY SAID BUT NEVER DID PROVIDE PROOF.




    Like most of your posts totally irrelevant.


    FoxHastings said:
    Refute this post : YOU COULDN'T :)

    FoxHastings said:
    GUGGADUH....you could have had a SSN at BIRTH.....

    But you couldn't get one BEFORE THAT.""


    SHOW WHERE IT IS WRONG. :)
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    Again:

    What are "later terminations"? How many weeks?


    Quit dodging




    No, you didn't or you could have said it here or posted the Post # where you did say it...

    Uh, your "study" did NOT say the number of weeks...


    NOPE, YOUR article never said that....if it did YOU could have quoted it...;)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus is part of a woman until birth...



    DODGED QUESTIONS:

    Then what is the fetus doing in there ?

    WHY can't it be taken out and grow on it's own if it's separate?








    Oh, my, could you show the book that shows that the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all????:roflol::roll::roflol:
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is growing a living it's life what do you think it is doing?

    Still waiting cite from a medical journal that the baby is a physical part of the mother.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Late-term abortion is, fortunately, relatively rare. According to the most recent CDC data, only 1.3 percent of abortions occur after 21 weeks. However, given the sheer number of abortions in this country (638,169 reported to the CDC), that means there were at least 8,000 late-term abortions in the United States. As Jonah Goldberg notes today, the pro-abortion-rights Guttmacher Institute puts the number even higher, at roughly 12,000 late-term abortions per year. That’s a lot of babies dying late in pregnancy. To gain a sense of perspective, that number is comparable to the number of murders committed by firearms in the same time period.

    So, why do these babies die? The Guttmacher Institute has looked at the reasons for late-term abortion, and the reasons are chilling. First, the top-line finding is clear: “[D]ata suggest that most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.” Instead, there were “five general profiles of women who sought later abortions, describing 80% of the sample.” These women were “raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous [had never given birth].”"



     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are the one assigning humanity with a SSN not me

    What percent of all human beings who have ever existed had one or even could have had one?
     
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    My argument NEVER says the baby in the womb is part of the mothers body. Do you know the difference between a diploid and a haploid cell?

    But here from

    MAUREEN L. CONDIC is an associate professor of neurobiology and anatomy at the University of Utah School of Medicine; she conducts research on human stem cells.

    ....Confusing human organisms with human cells:

    Dias offers the familiar “circle of life” argument to conclude that it is impossible to determine when life begins. Dismissing it as “not a good question,” Cambridge professor Nick Hopwood says: “The egg is alive, the sperm is alive, the cells from which they develop are alive, it is a continuum.” Yet this argument is profoundly misleading. While an embryo arises from the fusion of living sperm and egg cells, an embryo is a human organism, not merely a human cell. And human organisms can be distinguished from human cells by clear scientific criteria (as discussed here and here). The essential characteristic of an organism is the ability of parts to act together in an orderly manner to support the health and survival of the entity as a whole. For multicellular organisms, such as humans, the earliest manifestation of organismal integration is development: the active process of autonomously constructing a mature body. And human embryos immediately enter into a self-directed developmental trajectory that sequentially produces all of the structures required for more mature stages of life. Development is what defines an embryo as an embryo, and this process is entirely distinct from the behavior of mere human cells. The generation of a living organism from living cells is clearly a biologic discontinuity, not a continuum....
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/01/actually-we-do-know-when-human-life-begins/

    Let's follow the science don't ya think?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus is part of a woman until birth...



    DODGED QUESTIONS:

    Then what is the fetus doing in there ?

    WHY can't it be taken out and grow on it's own if it's separate?







    Oh, my, could you show the book that shows that the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all????:roflol::roll::roflol:
    NO ANSWER HERE FOLKS! LOL


    LOL, is that English? What does that garbled sentence mean?

    Gugga ""growing a living it's life..." hilarious! and meaningless :)




    Still waiting for your "book that shows that the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all??""

    :)
     
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    LOL, 21 weeks is hardly near birth and NOT "late term"......LOLOLOL......and LEGAL...

    AND your source is an Anti-women's rights , anti-abortion site..
     
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    .FUNNY HOW YOU MADE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT I ALLEGEDLY SAID BUT NEVER DID PROVIDE PROOF.


    Refute this post :
    BUT YOU COULDN'T :)

    FoxHastings said:
    GUGGADUH....you could have had a SSN at BIRTH.....

    But you couldn't get one BEFORE THAT.""


    SHOW WHERE IT IS WRONG. :) BUT YOU COULD NOT SHOW WHERE IT WAS WRONG .... :)
     
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    I NEVER said it did and YOU have NEVER proven I did .

    :) You also NEVER answered: Why can't a fetus have an SSN?
     
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    Because of the law not because they are not human beings.
     
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    So what? Having a SSN does not define you as a human.
     
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    So what how does that refute what I said? Most late term abortions are not for what was claimed.
     
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    Why since that is not my claim. Now prove from the medical text that the baby in the womb is a physical part of the mother as you claim.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I NEVER said it did and YOU have NEVER proven I did .

    :) You also NEVER answered: Why can't a fetus have an SSN?


    NOPE , because they are not legal persons until BIRTH.

    They are human but NOT A human being until birth..

    The law only gives SSNs to "persons".
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    .FUNNY HOW YOU MADE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT I ALLEGEDLY SAID BUT NEVER DID PROVIDE PROOF.


    Refute this post : BUT YOU COULDN'T :)

    FoxHastings said:
    GUGGADUH....you could have had a SSN at BIRTH.....

    But you couldn't get one BEFORE THAT.""


    SHOW WHERE IT IS WRONG. :) BUT YOU COULD NOT SHOW WHERE that WAS WRONG .... :)




    WHO SAID IT DID ? NOT ME.


    SHOW WHERE I SAID IT DID...

    AS USUAL, you canNOT show proof I ever said that.



    FoxHastings said:
    GUGGADUH....you could have had a SSN at BIRTH.....

    But you couldn't get one BEFORE THAT.""
    Right or wrong??????

    SHOW WHERE THAT IS WRONG. :) BUT YOU COULD NOT SHOW WHERE that WAS WRONG .... :)
     
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    How TF would YOU know and so what?

    If they got a legal abortion why are you so upset ??
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus is part of a woman until birth...



    DODGED QUESTIONS:

    Then what is the fetus doing in there ?

    WHY can't it be taken out and grow on it's own if it's separate?






    Oh, my, could you show the book that shows that the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all????:roflol::roll::roflol:
    NO ANSWER HERE FOLKS! LOL



    LOL, is that English? What does that garbled sentence mean?

    Gugga ""growing a living it's life..." hilarious! and meaningless :)






    Still waiting for your "book that shows that the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all??""


    YES, IT IS....you claim the fetus is NOT part of a woman...so you must think "the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all""


    Can't explain to a science denier.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    You cannot quote me saying

    ""the fetus just "floats" inside the woman for no reason at all"""

    Now post me from a medical textbook or journal that the unborn baby is a physical part of the mother. It is your claim prove it.
     
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    I provided the purely objective study to refute the claim otherwise. Why does that upset you so?
     
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    Get rid of all the formatting and perhaps I'll be able to read what you are trying to say.
     

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