House expands Civil Rights Act!!!

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  1. Ronstar

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-se...ll-expand-gay-rights-041653126--politics.html

    The House has approved a bill to expand the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include sexual orientation and gender id. It was approved 237 to 173.

    All Democrats voted for it as well as 8 Republicans.

    Right now it is legal under Federal law to discriminate in housing, education, employment, and public accommodations based on sexual orientation or gender ID, but illegal to do so for reasons of race, gender, nationality, religion, ethnicity, physical handicap.

    Let's pray that the Senate will see the light and expand Equal Opportunity and stop irrational and illogical discrimination!

    The Republicans are always opposing Affirmative Action saying they fully support equal opportunity but NOT "special help or hand outs". Well, time to see if they REALLY believe that.
     
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    The bill will die in the Senate.
     
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    So when will they make it illegal for people to discriminate based upon political affiliation, or ideology? Will we start seeing affirmative action in our schools, where K-12 , colleges and universities will be forced to hire Republicans and Conservatives for teaching and administrative staff?
     
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    hopefully never as you have a right to prevent antifa or the KKK or a Neo-Nazi or a communist from living in your house or working in your store
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if the Senate had their way they would kill the entire civil Rights act and allow discrimination again
     
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    Don't be so sure. It won't pass unanimously, but there just isn't enough of an upside compared to a downside.

    If the republicans are smart (they aren't) they will amend it to include services like health and car insurance, then send it back to the house. Then the democrats in the house will have to vote to make discriminatory car insurance rates legal, which they cannot do. Women don't like being forced to take public transportation to work.
     
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    People are discriminated against over their pets. When will Democrats include their pets?
     
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    Just wait until the democrats try to get some car insurance for their 17 year old daughter, only to find out that it's illegal to charge girls less than 17 year old boys.
     
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    I support getting rid of all these protected classes and just outlawing discrimination against anyone for any reason. Inability to pay included.
     
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    If we could only get rid of these laws against slavery. Then we wouldn’t have all these slaves everywhere.
     
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    It will never pass the Senate.

    Adding gender id to the wording of the legislation would definitely have some unforeseen consequences.


    The Civil Rights Act had all sorts of additional practical implications, besides just "protecting" certain groups. It was very controversial when passed, and not entirely without good reason.
    It's not so simple as just protecting certain groups.
     
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    Why shouldn't it be a State issue? Why does the federal government need to be involved?
     
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    I don't follow.
     
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    Doesn't this line of thought lead to legalizing child marriage? Otherwise it is discrimination against children.
     
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    Ahh but legalising child marriage would be discriminatory against maximum security prisoners who won't be able to stab child rapists anymore.

    Gotta consider their rights too.
     
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    It will most likely pass. They are a few moderates in the party still who don't hate gays like the far right do.

    Plus, if they don't pass it, Dick Cheney will come to their houses and kill them in their sleep,and all Republicans are scared of Dick Cheney.
     
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    Children can't legally consent to marriage, so they can't be married. Same reason we won't allow people to marry animals.

    This "slippery slope" BS has been spouted for years. Maybe bigots should come up with some new BS.
     
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    Saying "the law says X" is a complete non-point coming from people who are constantly trying to change the law to fit their ideology. This very thread is about changing the law.

    The ideology of "banning all discrimination" directly leads to banning discrimination against children, which logically implies legalizing consensual sex with children just like it is for adults. This is a fact.

    Falsely calling something a fallacy is, itself, a fallacy.

    Losing the debate? Shout bigot!
     
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    Depends on if you were being sarcastic or not.
     
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    Disliking the idea of your five year old daughter sharing a bathroom with a forty year old man has nothing to do with hating gays. Frankly the notion that all it takes to be female or male is a feeling is insulting to both.
     
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    Oh good grief...

    Yes, minors can legally get married in quite a few states, if they have consent of parent or guardian. It varies by state, and gender of spouses, but you'd probably be amazed at just how young a girl can get married.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States

    Many states such as california don't have a minimum age, so theoretically, a baby can get married to a geriatric man.

    In 23 of the states, children under 16 can be married. Over the past 15 years, more than 200,000 minors married in US, and in Tennessee girls as young as 10 were married in 2001,[3] before the state set a minimum age of 17 in 2018.[4]


     
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    sad how you can so easily disregard discrimination against your fellow citizens.
     
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    this bill will be a litmus test on support for equal rights and equal treatment under the law.
     
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    You paint me as a jawbreaking non human. Bet you feel much better today.
     
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    Robert, the lds church's political stance on this bill is morally wrong.

    Religious freedom is enshrined in the Constitution already.
     
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