House expands Civil Rights Act!!!

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Do you think your issue with terminology makes any difference?

    If not, I'm fine.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then I guess I am not sure what you were saying.. sorry
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    There is no federal law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in public accommodation or employment.

    Some states have added sexual orientation as a protected class, but the federal government has not.

    Our SC considers that public accommodations and employers do not have the right to discriminate on a number of grounds.

    This makes sense, as in our society we distribute goods and services and employment to citizens through private enterprise. We do not have an equal opportunity society if people are denied these basics.
     
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    No we do not distribute anything through private Enterprise which is why the sc is founded on outright lies.

    We do not distribute anything

    Private Enterprise sells to select people for profit and do not accommodate the public
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    OK, but the OP is about extending protection to cover sexual orientation.

    We're not a society concerned about equal treatment if our laws condone discrimination in how goods, services, housing and jobs are distributed. These are fundamental necessities for every citizen.
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    We distribute food, housing, clothing, employment, entertainment, etc., through private enterprise.

    If you want any of these, you go to a private enterprise, not the government.
     
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    We as a society do not distribute anything

    Private Enterprise selectively sells to those who can buy goods and services

    We are a just and civilized society when we repeal the immoral laws which forbid select individuals from exercising their right to discriminate

    The op is defending that which is morally reprehensible which is why I am giving accurate and factual answers

    These laws need to be repealed
     
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    No we do not what so ever.
    We do not distribute a damn thing.

    Private Enterprise selectively sells to select individuals strictly for profit.

    You go to private Enterprise and ASK to buy necessities they are not distributed
     
  9. Belch

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    Are you just now figuring out that we aren't about equal treatment?

    Haven't you seen all those homeless dudes sleeping on the streets and other people living in huge mansions? Fundamental necessities? WTF? There are no fundamental necessities for other people, as far as people are concerned.

    Noobody really cares if any of us starve.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    under Federal law, it is legal to discriminate against someone in housing, education, employment and public accomodations.

    gays face discrimination due to this all the time.

    it needs to stop.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if they can face discrimination in housing, education, employment and public accomodations, they are second class citizens.
     
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    The law is immoral and needs to be flushed individuals have the right to discriminate

    Only government cannot be allowed to discriminate
     
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    Anyone can face discrimination and be the same citizen as any one else

    The ruling class which you support mist be stopped from practicing this immoral discrminaton
     
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    Do I have to do business with a heterosexual white male?
     
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    That's not terminology, sorry
    If it doesnt apply to all groups, it's not equal and its privelege for select groups
     
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    It's not equal opportunity.
    And BTW, arguing "the law" in a philosophical debate, is intellectually void
     
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    Yes - we use capitalism. That involves private enterprise distributing goods and services.

    There isn't any other way that people get just about all goods and services.

    Ensuring that our method of distribution of goods and services treats our citizenry with equality is hugely important.

    ...and our SC agrees.
     
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    so you think its ok to discriminate against people who are Gay?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not anymore they don't.

    this isn't 1968, bro.

    society has evolved past Jim Crow, Apartheid and the Nuremberg Laws.

    time to join the club or get out of the way
     
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    Not doing business with someone is not discrimination.
     
  21. WillReadmore

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    You are pointing at end conditions that aren't handled by our system very well.

    And, we certainly do need to work on that.

    The OP is one step, but it's oriented to a different but related problem - people who have the money, but are refused service.
     
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    Can a business owner refuse to do business with a heterosexual, white male?
     
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    Do you have an idea for a better law?

    Unfortunately, it does appear that a law is required.
     
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    It is if the reason for refusing service is race, religion, gender, etc.
     
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    Is it just service? I thought it was also about equal opportunities regarding employment.

    But okay, if it's just service, then understand that businesses have a certain clientele, and must cater to that customer base in order to keep them coming back. So if I have a bar with a clientele that is filled with a bunch of thirsty guys looking to get laid, then I'm going to have a lady's price. The guys pay 5 bucks to enter my establishment, but I will allow hot girls to enter free of charge. My customers totally approve, the hot girls approve, so what's the problem?

    The problem sounds like you really don't like the active discrimination involved. I'm discriminating based on gender, looks, age, and yes, race.

    Hot young asian girls get in for free, but uppity fat black chicks are just going to have to go somewhere else. None of my customers want to see some fat ugly uppity black chick taking up valuable bar real estate.
     

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