House to vote on coronavirus response bill, including free testing

They’ve already responded to Mnuchin’s (Treasury Secretary) input with this piece of legislation. The Senate should move this quickly ( Friday) although we need to account for the McConnell/Trump factor. It could be Friday, two weeks from now, or never.

 

Nope, it was the Swine Flu and Ebola.....both very deadly

 

Ebola killed 0 Americans and the H1N1 virus had a mortality rate of 0.01%.

But this is not relevant to the topic of the thread.

 

12K Americans died....all Obama did was set up a political operative to run a White House PR campaign.

The Ebola ragged for three years impacting numerous lives....but I guess Africans don't matter to the DNC

 

Hmm, 2012+9 = your mom? No wonder I don't come here to genuine discussion and debate.

Anyway, here's why this is happening. People constantly complain about paying too much in taxes and that it's a result of too much government spending. So all politicians, regardless of party, are expected to be asking departments to do more with less. This is the result. This is not a result I supported, robbing Peter to pay Paul, but what's the alternative? Paying more in taxes? I'll wait until you get on board with fully funding all government departments to the level of risk those department's supporters say you should fund them to. But I suspect you are just trying to divert blame from Trump to Obama. Which is it?

 

I think it will pass, Trump may not be worried as much about the people getting help, but he is worried about the stock dropping

 

African lives didn't matter to the GOP either. Show me the right wing outrage over the lack of action to save African lives from Ebola, please.

 

if the Republican Senate wants to take more time, they need to stay

 

Sigh... 2012 year funding was cut.... that cut involves the next 9 years... So no the answer is not sarcasm.

I said Obama cut funding..

You challenged me

I showed the funding cut.. Your answer is "your mom"... Yes i can see why you dont come here for debate.

 

Your whatboutisms are still irrelevant to the topic of this thread. But I strongly encourage you to go make a thread in a different forum about Obama's handling of H1N1 and Ebola.

 

it's an empty bill

there aren't sufficient personnel or viral media to conduct/complete the tests (you need more than just swabs) nor do medical personnel have sufficient supply of protective equipment. There are none to be had. That's the cold hard reality

It's basically a press release opportunity so the politicians can look like they are doing something

 

You were the one that brought up Obama not me.

 

Uh, did you actually read my post?

My response was to the summary posted in the OP, and for your benefit I'll post that summary again:

Again, I'm not seeing the billions of dollars of financial assistance earmarked for the working class Americans I was speaking about earlier.

Since you brought up the payroll tax cut, permit me to explain what it would do. It would free up money for working class Americans who would otherwise be sending that money to Washington, to spend on preventative measures to protect themselves and their families from the virus and/or any additional expenses to combat the virus if anyone in their family gets sick. Some people could use that financial assistance if their jobs are affected by the virus and can't wait on the glacial speed of the federal government to respond to their predicament in an expeditious manner.

Will that be enough to help working class Americans out? In many cases it will not, but every little bit counts, and I didn't see anything in the summary posted in the OP that will help working class Americans who find themselves in a crunch that is more than likely to be temporary, but painful nonetheless.

As for the additional spending for government agencies, small businesses and a global response that you mentioned, as well as the assistance for the unemployed and uninsured, that's all well and good and to be expected, but it's not going to put bread on the tables of working class Americans, nor will it pay for their mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation, and other expenses.

As for the stock market, the current panic is related primarily to the virus and its impact on our economy and economies around the globe. I don't think a payroll tax cut will stop the hysteria on Wall Street nor do I believe that it will magically make the Dow rebound 6000 points overnight (claims I never made in my post, BTW). However, based on the information you just provided and what I've seen over the past several weeks, it's clear that people in the government and at the Fed do believe they should try to help the economy, and a payroll tax cut is but one of a number of different things Washington can do to help, and help it should. I also get that there are a lot of selfish people in this country who oppose a payroll tax because they're invested in the federal government and its spending, and it's not in their own personal and/or professional interests to have working class Americans keeping more of their own earnings and paying less taxes.

 

They were trying to overturn Trump's travel bans (h/t RP12) amongst other things that I thought the Left considered less important than this apocalyptic threat we're facing. Apparently, they lied to us about their priorities, but what else is new...

 

Geeez did you just hear Biden? Hasn't he been paying attention to what we are doing. He was demanding we do what we are already doing as if he is some kind of leader here. Then in the same breath demanded more money be spent, you know the Democrat who ever screams for the most money is the most carrying, while at the same time saying we need to find out where the $8.3B already allocated is being spent. If he doesn't know where that is being spent how can he know we need more money? And then turned it into a total political speech.

 

It was a reorganization to make it more efficient. Through the years government grows almost exponentially due the mindset of "oh there's a problem let's create a new department" and there gets to be overlap and duplication and wasted efforts and resources.

 

Well geeze man. You should self identify as a Farm then. That'll get you a buttload of subsidy money.

 

Cause she’s trying to find a way to blame this all on Trump. Duh! lol

 

He’s mental.

 

So what is the big deal with testing? Let's say someone gets tested....are they supposed to get tested every hour on the hour?

This is ridiculous. Testing is not the answer.

 

but other countries have them, is it a private care issue?

 

the problem is when doctors feel someone should be tested, they can't be, not enough tests, it's getting better, if we can slow the spread, maybe they catch up

 

Do you think Trump and Pence should get tested given their known exposure to people who subsequently (within a few days) tested positive for the virus?

 

what we do not know for example is how exactly is S Korea testing. Here in the USA, it's a very time consuming and in-depth process requiring special medium etc. You don't just stick a q-tip up the nose and mail it in