Son of GOd is the most deserving devotee existing on the earth to whome God enters for His mission. Thus when such Son of God is alive in this world, He is GOD HIMSELF. One can never separate Son of God and God since both are existing in the same human body. Therefore such living Son of God of present time is God. Only a living God can interact with us. Therefore God comes in human form in every human generation. In Son of God extra component exists which is God. Thus Son of God is God Himself only.
Dattaswami - I don't think any educated westerners really believe in any of these god-things you go in for: they just pretend, for reasons of business and family sentiment or because it seems to answer some of their psychological problems. Talking with them is mostly a waste of time for this reason.
However they are also children of God hence should be properly given the truth through divine knowledge to get uplifted.
Perhaps you should read the athanasian creed to understand how Christians see the difference between "a child [=son, daughter] of god" and "the son of god". If you have a problem iwth the word catholic then replace it in your thoughts with "universal", what's the nearest modern word I know. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Essence of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Essence of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood by God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved. http://youtu.be/A5L1VgNwNFw
I thougth about to answer with some polite words - then I decided to ask my grandpa David for an answer - it was the answer of Psalm 109: ----- My God, whom I praise, do not remain silent, for people who are wicked and deceitful have opened their mouths against me; they have spoken against me with lying tongues. With words of hatred they surround me; they attack me without cause. In return for my friendship they accuse me, but I am a man of prayer. They repay me evil for good, and hatred for my friendship. Appoint someone evil to oppose my enemy; let an accuser stand at his right hand. When he is tried, let him be found guilty, and may his prayers condemn him. May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes. May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labour. May no-one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children. May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation. May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out. May their sins always remain before the Lord, that he may blot out their name from the earth. For he never thought of doing a kindness, but hounded to death the poor and the needy and the broken-hearted. He loved to pronounce a curse— may it come on him. He found no pleasure in blessing— may it be far from him. He wore cursing as his garment; it entered into his body like water, into his bones like oil. May it be like a cloak wrapped about him, like a belt tied for ever round him. May this be the Lord's payment to my accusers, to those who speak evil of me. But you, Sovereign Lord, help me for your name's sake; out of the goodness of your love, deliver me. For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me. I fade away like an evening shadow; I am shaken off like a locust. My knees give way from fasting; my body is thin and gaunt. I am an object of scorn to my accusers; when they see me, they shake their heads. Help me, Lord my God; save me according to your unfailing love. Let them know that it is your hand, that you, Lord, have done it. While they curse, may you bless; may those who attack me be put to shame, but may your servant rejoice. May my accusers be clothed with disgrace and wrapped in shame as in a cloak. With my mouth I will greatly extol the Lord; in the great throng of worshippers I will praise him. For he stands at the right hand of the needy, to save their lives from those who would condemn them. http://youtu.be/ARNiv8MR4JE ----- Hmm - question: is it a good answer? Are you able to do something with this answer that is able to help you? http://youtu.be/_H4TlDxXxVk
First off .. this is a great Psalm. One of my favorite parts of the Bible is the words of wisdom in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes and some of the Psalms are similar. Unfortunately however .. this Psalm is a terrible answer to the question. We are talking about the inerrancy of the Bible. The Psalm is about a fellow that has been wronged and is praying to God. Why would someone feel that the claim that the inerrancy of the Bible wrongs them ? One does not have to believe that the folks writing the Bible got everything perfect to believe in God or the message of God is in the Bible. It is quite possible (and in fact it has happened hundreds of times) that translators mess up, or add things or subtract things such that the original version which may have been the inerrant word of God but is no longer so. Proverbs say seek knowledge and wisdom .. this does not mean that you deny obvious reality IMO. Saying some of the stories in the Bible were not meant to be taken literally is not accusing somone of lying as the speaker is alluding to or betraying a friendship or doing evil to someone. The second part of this fellows prayer is him asking for retribution. That God will punish those that did evil to him. Ummmmm .. Im not sure if you noticed but this is not in keeping with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus says to love your enemies, turn the other cheek, and pray for them.. not for retribution on them. Jesus, according to the Trinity, is God so either: 1) the fellow in Psalms got it wrong (his prayer was not dictated by nor inspired by God) or 2)Jesus got it wrong or 3)God changed his mind ? Claiming that God changed his mind suggests that God made a mistake initially. Does God make mistakes ? If you claim that God does make mistakes in relation to the Bible is the Bible then not inerrant ? If you claim (1) or (2) this also means the Bible is inerrant.
Beg my pardon, but I fear you have to learn on your own from the consequences of your own empty words. For me it's completly unimportant what you like to discuss with me. I said what I said - and I'm sure it's true what I said. http://youtu.be/D4insqFNx_M
Im sure you think that what you said is true and this is lovely. This does not change the fact that your Psalm had zero to do with Bible inerrancy.
I broke the habit of years to follow that up. Did you intend me to listen to Haydn? Music doesn't argue, nor would any God. Anyone who just closes his eyes, ears and mind is in my view simply and shamelessly wicked. Why aren't you doing something to improve the world your 'religious' American chums are so squalidly and self-righteously destroying?
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All gods are imaginary so the easier way to kill them is to simply stop worshiping and believing in them. They will then cease to exist. How many people still believe in Zeus?
I assume this has been said but I will repeat it with my own voice. (BTW I do not consider myself christian.) Jesus was God become man and as a man experienced birth and death. His birth was a gift and his death was a sacrifice, but being God as manifest in man he was above both. The ability to experience anything cannot be beyond an omnipotent God. The will to do so implied a new covenant with man. This is a matter of faith which reveals itself through communion with God. To those with no faith this is meaningless.
