How Planned Parenthood hooks kids on sex (WARNING: graphic material)

Complete uninformed opinion and nothing more.

You do try so very hard, but it falls way short.

 

Thats all we have in this issue.. opinions. Abortion issue is about opinions and subjective values. There is no absolute morality.

I find it simply ridiculous that someone would want to proclaim a mindless life a person with rights. Whats next, plants or rocks should be deemed persons?

 

They do not pay for them…that is a lie. They do not have mammograms on site.

Here are some quotes…


"We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population"

She started the Negro Project.

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/population/the_negro_project.htm


http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm


Sanger said, "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people

Sanger, "The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

Sanger, "More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

Sanger, "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon

Sanger said, "The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23)

Sanger said, "Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

Sanger said, ""I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine." What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915)

Sanger said,"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

Sanger said, "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

What did she mean by a cleaner race? One without blacks.

Sanger said, "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

What did she mean by bad stock? Blacks

Sanger said, ""Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

Sanger said, ""Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."
Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on "The Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.


I have hundreds of other quotes…I would encourage you to read about the Negro Project if you really want to feel sick.

Here are some quotes from PP and the ilk that run it.

"We are not going to be an organization promoting celibacy or chastity."
Faye Wattleton, President, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Los Angeles Times, Oct. 17, 1986

OF COURSE NOT….THEY WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE MISTAKES….ABORTION THEY CHAMPION IT PAYS THE BILLS.

"If your parents are stupid enough to deny you access to birth control, and you are under 18, you can get it on your own. Call Planned Parenthood."
Planned Parenthood advertisement, Dallas Observer, Jan. 30, 1986

THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE THE PARENT….THEY WILL GO BEHIND YOUR BACK.

"There are only 2 basic kinds of sex: sex with victims and sex without. Sex with victims is always wrong. Sex without is ALWAYS right."
You've Changed The Combination, Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood, Denver, Colo.

"The question of whether or not to sell ourselves to men is a false one: The real question is how to sell ourselves in the way that is least destructive to ourselves and our sisters. Prostitutes don't need our condescension. What they need is our alliance. And we need theirs."
The New Our Bodies, Ourselves, Boston Women's Health Collective, p 113

"At Planned Parenthood you can also get birth control without the consent or knowledge of your parents. So, if you are 14, 15 or 16 and you come to Planned Parenthood, we won't tell your parents you've been there. We swear we won't tell your parents."
Planned Parenthood employee lecturing students of Ramona High School, Riverside, Calif., April 21-22, 1986

THEIR GOAL…..

Dr. Lena Levine in 1953, concerning Planned Parenthood's purpose and planned course of action: "... to be ready as educators and parents to help young people obtain sex satisfaction before marriage. By sanctioning sex before marriage we will prevent fear and guilt. We must also relieve those who have these ... feelings, and we must be ready to provide young boys and girls with the best contraceptive measures available so they will have the necessary means to achieve sexual satisfaction without having to risk possible pregnancy." (Planned Parenthood News, Summer 1953) ." ("Psycho-Sexual Development," quoted in Planned Parenthood News, Summer 1953, pg. 10)

 

I suggest you re-read my post. I never said anything was filled with lies. I said it was put together in a very specific way to lure people to a desired conclusion.

This may surprise you, but omitting details is just as effective as lying. And rearranging evidence to suit an specific argument is just as misleading as a bold faced lie. If you do not understand this than there is nothing more I can do for you.

And imagine that! The video was pulled for some copyright reasons. Well, somebody is pulling on some strings. Predictable, but amusing to say the least.

 

All you have are lies. Planned Parenthood DOES pay for mamograms:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ppwaco/BCCS Komen-28753.htm

The Negro Project was an effort to bring birth control and education to poor black women who otherwise would spend their lives in a constant state of pregnancy. Black women were grateful for Sanger's help.

 

How does it fall way short? Explain it to us 'TheHat'.

 

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT CATCH SANGERS COMMENTS ABOUT BLACKS? You need to educate yourself about this woman. She was a racist…even talked at women's KKK events.

What don't you get about here statement here……""We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population"


Now explain that one to me? LOL
Does the Texas PP own the machines…or do they send the woman there?

 

What has Margaret Sanger and her opinions in common with modern Planned Parenthood? In the past, eugenics and racism was far more common and mainstream. You cant judge historical figures by modern standards.

You are grasping at straws.
PP does not force black women to have an abortion - end of debate.

 

It's easy to explain. You, like others who want to smear Sanger, took it out of context. She was NOT saying that they want to exterminate the Negro population, but that they did want the "Negroes" to THINK that. Because it wasn't true. Yes, she spoke to the women KKKers, they need birth control too. Black women were grateful to Sanger, and black leaders applaud her. FYI, Sanger opposed abortion. Think about that.

 

They still operated behind Sangers ideals….they just don't admit to it…well gee…who would. They still target blacks...

 

Here is a case of someone who so idolized someone in this case Sanger…that she can't see the truth. It is public knowledge what Sanger said….and If you want me to quote the entire chapter from which the extermination of the Negro population came from I can….I have it here. She was a racist…as was Hitler….that is fact….as was her photo shoot with the KKK.

I bet you would defend Hitler wouldn't you grannie? he was just a nice chap…a product of his environment…and of course of his time….we shouldn't hold that against him should we? He didn't mean to kill the Jews…..right?

 

No right or wrong eh? So blasphemer thinks rape is ok. Wow.

Why not…we do in this country protect our belongings. I can't come onto your property and take what is not mine. Well you would think so as you said so yourself your a moral relativist…so if I did it…it would be ok. But the laws say we can't. So we do protect our things more than the human life in the womb.

God help you and those who think like you…….

 

she had them by the balls…just where she wanted to have them…..in this case…evil triumphed…..as it still is today…with PP.

People today especially the blacks are seeing the bigger picture…don't kid yourself.

 

http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nat...eases-startling-new-abortion-awareness-video/

http://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/201...-genocide-african-american-leaders-speak-out/


http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/hea...cle_b403600e-5277-11e1-a74e-001871e3ce6c.html

 

I say there is no objective absolute morality. And you cannot deny that because there is not. You may not like it, but its a fact.
If you think there is, prove the existence of absolute morality and become the greatest philosopher of all time.

Your strawmans are ridiculous. Stop confusing relative subjective morality with NO morality at all (nihilism). It only shows you dont know very much about the philosophy of morality.
I can believe stealing is wrong without having an objective way to prove it, because its a claim about values, not facts. Value statements (opinions) do not need proofs. They cannot even be proven.

 

Sanger was giving a warning that dishonest race-baiting people were out there, people who would deliberately lie for political gain and tell a vicious lie that Sanger wanted to exterminate blacks. History has shown Sanger to be correct, that there were and still are such vicious liars out there.

She never called blacks "weeds". Sanger never called anyone "human weeds". That phrase is a complete fabrication by the pro-life liars. If they disagree, they shouldgive a reference to the exact work where it occurs. The original Sanger writings are online, so it will be easy enough to verify. If they can't do that, they should have the decency to retract the claim.

Sanger never said she wanted to exterminate blacks. That's another pro-life fabrication. Churchmouse's references are just full of those flat-out fabrications, and are basically a joke.

Churchmouse, you have been deliberately lied to and misled by your pro-life sources. Are you going to call those liars to task, or will you indicate your approval of the lies (and your allegiance to the lord of lies) by spitting hatred at the people who revealed the lies?

As far as the KKK goes, let's read Sanger's own words on the matter.
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"...I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan at Silver Lake, New Jersey, one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing. My letter of instruction told me what train to take, to walk from the station two blocks straight ahead, then two to the left. I would see a sedan parked in front of a restaurant. If I wished I could have ten minutes for a cup of coffee or bite to eat, because no supper would be served later. I obeyed orders implicitly, walked the blocks, saw the car, found the restaurant, went in and ordered some cocoa, stayed my allotted ten minutes, then approached the car hesitatingly and spoke to the driver. I received no reply. She might have been totally deaf as far as I was 1 concerned. Mustering up my courage, I climbed in and settled back. Without a turn of the head, a smile, or a word to let me know I was right, she stepped on the self-starter. For fifteen minutes we wound around the streets. It must have been towards six in the afternoon. We took this lonely lane and that through the woods, and an hour later pulled up in a vacant space near a body of water beside a large, unpainted, barnish building. My driver got out, talked with several other women, then said to me severely, "Wait here. We will come for you." She disappeared. More cars buzzed up the dusty road into the parking place. Occasionally men dropped wives who walked hurriedly and silently within. This went on mystically until night closed down and I was alone in the dark. A few gleams came through *****s in the window curtains. Even though it was May, I grew chillier and chillier. After three hours I was summoned at last and entered a bright corridor filled with wraps. As someone came out of the hall I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses. I waited another twenty minutes. It was warmer and I did not mind so much. Eventually the lights were switched on, the audience seated itself, and I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak. Never before had I looked into a sea of faces like these. I was sure that if I uttered one word, such as abortion, outside the usual vocabulary of these women they would go off into hysteria. And so my address that night had to be in the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand. In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered. The conversation went on and on, and when we were finally through it was too late to return to New York. Under a curfew law everything in Silver Lake shut at nine o'clock. I could not even send a telegram to let my family know whether I had been thrown in the river or was being held incommunicado. It was nearly one before I reached Trenton, and I spent the night in a hotel."
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That's what pro-life liars are raving about, Sanger risking her life to educate women. Any moral person would consider Sanger's actions there to be admirable.

MLK, DuBois, Bethune and all the black leaders of the day endorsed Sanger. Is it anyone's contention they were part of the plot to exterminate blacks, or were they just stupid pawns of the evil Sanger?

 

I believe in God so there is absolute morality for me. For people who don't believe in God or any outside entity…they it has to be subjective for them…they must all make it up as they go along. So every persons morals…are basically right. Because who would you be…to tell someone what they find moral…is not moral at all? Why do facts matter? Take one subject…and five people and they all will probably come up with different facts…depending on their personal biases.

 

Cant help you can't read….I gave the sources of Sangers quotes.

 

so there is a right and wrong its whatever you think is right and wrong and its subjective

wrong is what you don’t like so you appealed to what that poster would not like to say that it is objectively wrong

But by doing that you just show it is subjective

 

Proaborts think Sanger of course is God….they of course love her. Her statements which I quoted many in a previous thread…speak for themselves. They are documented and fact…and they speak volumes about what she was all about.

If you are a racist…and hate men…and think like she did that the marriage bed is the most vile institution in America…then Sangers your gal.

 

Mamooth…you are the one in denial. Don't let your love of abortion cloud your thinking about Sanger.

The quotes I posted are actually taken from her books.

Here again let me help you…

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

Sanger espoused the thinking of eugenicists -- similar to Darwin's "survival of the fittest" -- but related the concept to human society, saying the genetic makeup of the poor, and minorities, for example, was inferior. Pivot of Civilization, by Margaret Sanger, 1922, p. 80

On mandatory sterilization of the poor:
One of Sanger's greatest influences, sexologist/eugenicist Dr. Havelock Ellis (with whom she had an affair, leading to her divorce from her first husband), urged mandatory sterilization of the poor as a prerequisite to receiving any public aid. The Problem of Race Regeneration, by Havelock Ellis, p. 65, in Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society, p. 18. Ellis believed that any sex was acceptable, as long as it hurt no one. The Sage of Sex, A Life of Havelock Ellis, by Arthur Calder-Marshall, p. 88


She was asked in an interview if adultery was sin….she could barely get out an answer….I guess this is why…she had an affair on her husband. She was about more than birth control…but trying to weed out the bad stock.

On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932

So much for the government staying out of the bedroom eh?


On the purpose of birth control:

The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

It was more than just birth control…but who could have babies…all controlled…by the government. This was a way to get rid of blacks.

On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

I mean THESE ARE HER OWN WORDS….IN HER OWN JOURNAL ARTICLES AND BOOKS. EVERY QUOTE IS SOURCED BACK TO HER OWN WORDS.

On the extermination of blacks:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control
in America, by Linda Gordon

"The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order,"
Sanger said.

She wasn't as much about birth control but race control…and abortion and birth control were two ways to get rid of them.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLIFE/PPRACISM.TXT

 

Please stop mischaracterising other people it always reminds me of women in "pinnies" with their hair in rollers gossiping over the backyard fence I know you would not be like that but that is the mental image that comes to my mind

There is no such thing as a "proabort"

There are those who feel that abortion, for one reason or another, should not be summarily restricted but that does not mean that any one of us would like to mandate it's use or think that there are not better options that would reduce the incidence of abortion

We simply disagree on what those options might be - but that is fine and does not deserve us the disdain that is being thrown our way

 

I don't know WHY you're so obsessed with a dead woman, but be clear about this:
SANGER OPPOSED ABORTION!

 

Its almost like I am getting punked…because you people obviously can't and don't want to read. Blind sheeple…who can't and won't face the truth because if they did….it would rock their world.

She said what she did and it is documented IN HER OWN BOOKS.

 

And Hitler said…..that he had nothing against the Jews……LOL

I am obsessed with blind people who can't comprehend the truth…they only see blank pages and not the words on them…especially the meaning about why she wanted birth control to begin with.