How Planned Parenthood hooks kids on sex (WARNING: graphic material)

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  1. churchmouse

    churchmouse New Member

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    A pro-abort is someone who does not want protection for the unborn in the womb. Does not matter if they would get an abortion or not….THEY WANT IT LEGAL. In every sense of the word they are pro-abortion.


    Hey Bird is there something wrong with abortion?
     
  2. churchmouse

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    Sanger said, "to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization."

    DO IT OR ELSE….SO MUCH FOR FREEDOM.

    "pensioning all persons with transmissible disease who voluntarily consent to sterilization."

    PAY PEOPLE TO GET STERILIZED. WAVE THE MONEY IN FRONT OF DESPERATE PEOPLE…AND THEY WILL DO ALMOST ANYTHING.

    "control the intake and output of morons, mental defectives, epileptics"

    AND JUST HOW DOES SHE PLAN TO CONTROL THEM? SHE WON'T COME OUT AND SAY HOW….BUT IT IS THROUGH ABORTION AND BIRTH CONTROL…AND STERILIZATION. LETS JUST DECIDE WHO GETS TO LIVE AND WHO SHOULD DIE OFF.

    " take an inventory of the secondary group such as illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends; classify them in special departments under government medical protection, and segregate them on farms and open spaces"

    BOY WITH AS MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE JOBS TODAY…MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIVE ON FARMS THAT ARE SEGREGATED. WHO WOULD PAY FOR ALL THIS? HER DESIGNER RACE…WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE BLACKS.

    "fifteen or twenty millions of our population would then be organized into soldiers of defense---defending the unborn against their own disabilities."

    THOSE MILLIONS…THE WORKERS OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD….ABORTING THE UNDESIRABLES. UNBORNS WOULD BE BETTER OFF DEAD…TO SAVE THEM FROM THEIR OWN PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND THOSE OF THEIR PARENTS.

    "The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
    Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
    (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

    "With the future citizen safeguarded from hereditary taints, with five million mental and moral degenerates segregated,"

    Segregate..eliminate…….


    The full article A Plan for Peace, Birth Control Review (April 1932, pp. 107-108)
    http://www.spectacle.org/997/richmond.html


    Now this plan is absolutely outrageous. If she loved and cared for people which she obviously did not….she would not have put a plan together like this. Can you imagine of Planned Parenthood today…put this plan for peace together?

    And you think she should be someone who is admired and respected?


    So bye bye….Persons with transmissible disease, morons, mental defectives, epileptics, illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends;unborn,

    How many of these groups do you think were black?
     
  3. PoliticalRuckus

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    Yes, some Planned Parenthood clinics provide abortions. But want most of their time and money goes to is education.

    Their education helps young men and women learn things that will prevent unwanted pregnancies (1/2 of all pregnancies in the US are mistimed or unwanted). Education and access to birth control WILL reduce abortions.
     
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    This is exactly why govt has no business in social issues. I don't want govt teaching my kids about sex. I don't trust the govt to run my life or that of my kids.
     
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    You've been caught repeating fabricated quotes about Sanger. Have the decency to admit that and apologize.

    No. Half of them are fabricated, and the other half are dishonestly ripped screaming out of context. Like this one:

    That's Sanger using sarcasm to comment on the deplorable conditions of the poor. It's very dishonest of your source to pretend the quote was not sarcasm. Here's the full quote, with context.

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    Thus we see that the second and third children have a very good chance to live through the first year. Children arriving later have less and less chance, until the twelfth has hardly any chance at all to live twelve months. [npg] This does not complete the case, however, for those who care to go farther into the subject will find that many of those who live for a year die before they reach the age of five. [npg] Many, perhaps, will think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old-fashioned ideas to the facts. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members
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    No quote given, just unsupported dishonest commentary.

    Not even about Sanger, so irrelevant.

    This is the heart of the matter. It's not about eugenics; it's about sex. In her day, the Catholic church despised Sanger because she said women should enjoy sex too, and the Church still despises her today for exactly the same reason.

    Fabrication. You can read that piece online. Sanger says no such thing in it.

    You haven't looked at these sources, so it's dishonest of you to reference them. You should always be referencing the pro-lie website that fed you this misinformation, so we know the source of the lies. If you had read the source, you'd know Sanger was quoting a Dr. Kempf when she used the term "a race of thoroughbreds". And that the term has nothing to do with minorities. Sanger didn't like poor people much, or the mentally deficient. She'd make a fine Republican today. But she was quite colorblind in that attitude.

    Unsupported claim on your part, based on the vicious lies you've been fed.

    No, they're not. Sanger never said that. It's yet another pro-lie fabrication about Sanger.

    Here, Sanger is simply warning people that people like you are out there, people who will tell the vicious lie that Sanger wants to exterminate blacks. You have proven, by the way you repeat such lies with no remorse, that Sanger was correct to warn about people like you.

    No, Sanger didn't say that. Someone else said that, and pro-liars lie and attribute it to Sanger. So, you've given us yet another pro-lie fabrication.

    An unsupported statement on your part, all based on the fabrications you've been fed.

    Let's look at your scorecard, Churchmouse. You gave us 5 supposed quotes by Sanger. 3 were outright fabrications, and the 2 that were genuine meant nothing close to what you claimed they meant. Your record for honesty here stinks.

    You have been suckered by people who are deliberately lying about Sanger. Your ignorance can excuse you up to now, but that excuse has worn out. If you continue to repeat the debunked lies about Sanger, we will have to conclude that you are deliberately lying.
     
  6. stig42

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    gosh i don’t worship her try not to be racist i don’t hate men and i don’t mined if marred people have sex in bed or out of it

    yet im still pro-abortion because i think a fetus while alive and even human is not a person yet
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    Why are you dragging up ancient history?

    This is the equivalent of condemning all Germans because Hitler was once in charge there
     
  8. churchmouse

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    Sigh….

    Some provide abortion?…most all provide abortions. And most are in minority neighborhoods.

    They promote sex…they do things against the law…and are under investigation…today not for teaching, for hiding illegal acts. Birth control allows more people to have sex yes….even for our underaged children. They will hide the age of our daughters who go in for help especially with abortion. PP is the largest abortion mill in the country.
     
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    Hitler is dead…and the German people are not promoting his ideals. Not so with Sanger…she might be dead but PP clinics still operate under her ideals.

    Which minority group has the most abortions? Blacks

    Why? Not because they are poor….birth control is not that hard to get. ARe they just more promiscuous? Why?

    You know its funny….no one will tackle the Sanger quotes from her own books. Why?

    ARe you all defending her racism? What?

    WE should remember the past…and the past of PP is Sanger.

    Why not address some of her quotes?
     
  10. churchmouse

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    When exactly because we are dealing with killing here…..when is it all of a sudden a person?

    give me an exact time.
     
  11. TheHat

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    I have yet to see any person here disprove the video in the OP.

    Do you deny what the man said concerning a grown man showing this to kids would be arrested but since it's in the name of PP "education" it's OK?

    The video makes perfect sense about the circular formula PP uses from teaching kids how to have sex, providing them with the so-called comfort of safe sex through birth control, then when they get an STD they can treat it and them when they get pregnant give them the abortion.

    It's a pretty vicious cycle.
     
  12. Cady

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    Disprove what? That Planned Parenthood hooks kids on sex? Kids have managed to get hooked on sex long before Planned Parenthood.

    Sex education has been shown to reduce the rate of teen pregnancy and abortion. A pervert showing pictures to kids is not the same thing.

    With or without Planned Parenthood, kids learn how to have sex. Without Planned Parenthood, more kids will get STDs or pregnant, and just as many will get abortions.

    The video is a farce.
     
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    no idea but the little meat bags aren’t people till they can think beyond animals we don’t consider to be people
     
  14. churchmouse

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    Cady said,
    Your right people have sex and always did. But….today kids know that they can go to a place…where they don't care how old you are…and will hide your age…even if you want an abortion. Abortion and killing is that important to PP. It is circular….kids have sex……go to PP for birth control…..birth control fails…..they go to PP for abortions. PP has a corner on the market and they know it. They however do NOT WANT ABORTION REDUCED….IT PAYS THIER SALARIES.


    Yes…cause God knows if you taste a condom and practice putting it on a banana….that makes you more informed. The pervert…the one who preys on children is PP. And they think they can raise your kids better than you can.



    Without PP millions upon millions of babies would be alive today. And if kids were taught to wait…if they were taught to respect their parents…and there was not a place that kids could go to behind their parents backs….God knows how many women would be alive today.
     
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    um sex has an appeal all its own i don’t want it because someone told me to want it
     
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    Yes you have no idea….none whatsoever.

    I won't even comment and don't make it a practice to comment to peoples whose posts are as vile as yours is. This is a serious subject that you just think is a joke. The immaturity in your post…the insensitivity…is the face of PP..and the face of most pro-aborts….that just do not value life whatsoever. I can only imagine what else you believe…..
     
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    sex is worth the risks to some people reducing the risks is good less people would die in car accidents if we would only drive less

    Telling people to buckle up just encourages carnage because people feel its safer to drive

    Also not getting some one pregnant is murder imagine how many more lives there would be if women were all knocked up whenever possible
     
  18. Cady

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    And if kids DIDN'T didn't have a place?

    Kids have sex...don't use condoms...get STDs...don't get treatment...pass them to others...OR...

    Kids have sex...can't get birth control...get pregnant...go to back alley butcher for abortions.

    Any abortion provider could make MORE money by delivering babies and wouldn't have to endure threats and attacks from anti-abortion terrorists.

    There is an abundance of evidence that sex education reduces teen pregnancy and abortion rates.

    Empirical evidence shows that criminalizing abortion doesn't necessarily reduce the abortion rate; it does, however, increase the maternal death rate.

    Abstinence education has been proven a dismal failure...even kids who respect their parents are likely to have sex...there is ALWAYS a place kids can go behind their parents back. Thank God PP provides a SAFE place for them to go.
     
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    im serious i don’t no when a human normally makes it to being a person but i think it requires some development and the achievement of thought beyond the capability of creatures i would own as a pet or eat i do value the lives of people because i am one and I want other people to value my life

    but i don’t believe a full set of human dna and a developing body quite makes you a person without a certain level of intelligence

    sex is appealing and yes it can lead to danger but adolescents and older folk want sex there going to have it they should know all they can to avoid danger and enjoy themselves

    and some one not with us because they were aborted is no different form someone not with us because no one could bother to bring an unused egg cell into contact with a sperm
     
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    Tell me….if your underaged daughter went to a PP clinic and got an abortion and something happened to her…death(which happens) sterility (which happens) infection, mental problems…etc….what would you do? Who would you hold responsible? And don't lie…there is not a parent here that would not hold them responsible. Do you think PP would stand behind them? NO Do you think the government would?

    Abortion is a quick fix…its like a cattle call. You arrive at the PP clinic…you take a number and wait to be called. You fill out paper work and pay the money. You put a gown on and go in for a quicky exam…then you wait in line. They call you…you go in and lay on the table…the nurse gets you ready…the doctor comes in and kills your child. You then go into a room filled with cots with all the other women who killed their children. And ya know what? Its quiet as hell…no body talks. It is the eeriest feeling.

    Well kids are kids…and while they need our permissions for tattoos…they don't to kill a life….odd isn't it. I think many parents want it set up like this…that they could go behind our backs…because they can't handle parenthood…they want to look away themselves…without so much as doing one thing. Shhhh the government and PP know more about raising my kids than I do.

    Oh please…..nonsense. LOL Pro-abort propaganda. How many abortions are performed each year by PP….thousands upon thousands. And how many hit men were killed last year who performed them? How many clinics were blown uP? I will save you the trouble. That would be a zero. The numbers since 1973…against the abortionists and abortions provided is so low its laughable.

    No it does not. Kids take the risk just like adults do. We live in a sex saturated society…where our children are sexualized from a young age…through television, movies, music….etc. Last year on Glee…they showed a glorious sex act between two teenagers in high school. Kids are street smart today…they just need that safety net if something happens. And abortion is one of them. The highest group of women who get abortions are not teenagers…so are you implying adult women did not get schooled in sex?

    Hogwash…that is a lie. Maternal death rate even stated by PP was low before Roe. LOL Again pro-abort propaganda. Criminalizing abortion again SAVES LIVES. THOUSANDS OF UNBORNS WOULD LIVE. THE BLACK RACE WOULD INCREASE….AND MINORITY RACES WOULD THRIVE. That is fact.
    More women would have less unprotected sex..and would think a bit more before having it.

    It is set up to fail by people like you…who say its bad. To tell kids to wait to have sex…..well its just a bad thing isn't it? BEcause we want our kids to be talented and fulfilled and what better way then in the bedroom or the back of a car. Right? I mean don't you want your daughter to be the best lay in school?

    You think PP is safe…read this book and it gives names, clinics and cases of actual law…where PP clinics are closed routinely for unsafe and unsanitary reasons. This book names names…of those who have died in these safe clinics as you put it. The reason you don't hear about them…..
    BECAUSE THE FAMILY OF THE WOMAN DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEIR CHILD OR FAMILY MEMBER DIED BY ABORTION…OR WAS HARMED BY ABORTION. DOCTORS DO NOT WANT THEIR PRACTICE HARMED, THEIR NAME DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD. SO THEY SETTLE EVEN BEFORE GOING TO COURT.

    Do you think all the doctors who perform them are certified in anesthetics? NO. This is the reason many women die from abortion….they get too much.

    Did you know that if you have sever complications from an abortion they don't help you at the clinic…you have to go to a hospital. So then what happens…you think a hospital will treat your precious little one without a parental permission? I just heard of a young girl that had that Merana put in…easy enough. But she bled for weeks and it pushed into her stomach. Had to go to the hospital. Well the cat was out of the bag then. PP could not help her…


    You need to step out of the small box you are in and investigate this more. REad this book…..LIME 5 by Mark Crutcher. He is pro-life but he documents everything with case file numbers and names.
     
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    How much intelligence does a newborn baby have? Do you think if the mother wants to kill it then it should be allowed? Heck the baby can't read…or even feed itself? Cant change its own diapers…can't drive a car…can't sing a song…or even dress itself. So where is the intelligence to that would warrant saving it? Margaret Sanger the founder of PP said….the most merciful thing a parent can do is to kill its infant member.

    Your position on life is chilly.
     
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    How many times do I need to tell you people that it's being born that makes one a person?

    Educate yourselves.
     
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    Planned Parenthood acts within the law. The majority of states have parental consent and notification laws:

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion/parental-consent-notification-laws-25268.htm

    If anything happened, I would hold PP responsible only if it were due to malpractice just like any other doctor or medical facility.

    If a young girl is pregnant from incest from her father, would you expect her to get their consent for an abortion? Do you think you have the right to force any woman to continue a pregnancy and childbirth, even a daughter? Do you have the right to force motherhood for life on anyone? Or force anyone to give up a child for adoption?

    What's wrong with a quick fix? Why must it be a long drawn out ordeal? Why should it be noisy? You may have witnessed one clinic, I'm sure they are all different.
     
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    Another lie about Margaret Sanger.
     
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    Again you suggest that an embryo is the same as an existing individual. It is not. Those were thousands upon thousands of legal abortions by women minding their own business and deciding for themselves the number and timing of their own children. They don't believe abortion is immoral and their opinions are just as valid as yours.

    You are condoning and trivializing TERRORISM:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Mur...

    Do you defend the "Army of God" as well?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)
     

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