How Trump failed the biggest test of his life

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  1. dairyair

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    If you are unable to know what leaders should be responsible for.
    Then those leaders should not be elected. Nor should anyone vote if they don't have a clue what a leader is responsible for.
     
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    maybe you forgot the CDC
    https://www.cdc.gov/about/organization/cio-orgcharts/index.html
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Then I suggest you not vote because you clearly do it know.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    They are not responsible for state and local emergency management, they do not run the local hospitals or frontline responders. Again have the Feds taken over the state of or the city of New York? New Orleans? Florida? Go read again.
     
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    I suppose that post made some sense to you?
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cite Cuomo or de Blasio demanding the feds take over their hospitals and state agencies and control of their response. If your governor and local officials are waiting for the feds to tell them what to do you need to vote them out of office.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    That you couldn't respond to what I actually said and post inane nonsense is not unbelievable.
    Is Trump running your local hospitals? Is Trump telling your local EMS how and where to distribute supplies? Is Trump inventoring and warehousing those local supplies and responsible for ordering them? Is your governor and mayor sitting around with their thumbs up their arses waiting for Trump to tell them what to do?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Oh the duplicity you want and think the Federal government should take over the states and run this all from DC and then complain about your asserted failures of the federal government.
     
  9. Dayton3

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    Gerrymandering has no impact whatsoever on American presidential elections
     
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    Then I suggest you not vote because you clearly do not know.

    There better for you?
     
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    That was easy, proving you wrong, again.
     
  12. dagosa

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    Then you’re saying the gop is stupid to be doing it.....
     
  13. dagosa

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    Oh, you’re making up stuff and can’t even quote what I said. It’s too embarrassing isn’t it.You think you need to be right about something. I NEVER CLAIMED any such thing.

    I only claimed that Dems including gov and mayor pushed for more military involvement of procurement of medical supplies and dispersement.

    In order to get both aid and medical material, Cuomo activated Guard engineer units of his state to construct and equip medical facilities. They draw their material from the federal medical reserves. They, Cuomo, deBlasio and others also asked the house and senate Dem leaders to push for military procurement regime. That’s what the last one was about. Dah....you doubt what is right in front of you ? It’s in the interviews .

    Yah, some guys live in a bubble. What did Hannity tell everyone to say today ?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You should understand that the DoD is a really little more than a conduit from the American taxpayer to the Big Defense Contractors. Most of them are every bit as State run as the old Mikoyan-Guernich Design Bureau in the former Soviet Union was.

    Oh fer Jesus Christ's sake, look, SOME things are just beyond the capabilities of local government. I mean, the County Council is just a little strapped at dealing with the worst epidemic since 1918.

    Godalmighty man, just what do you think the Federal Government is FOR anyway?
     
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    Republicans can’t even read the mission statement of the cdc
    . They argue blind because only Fix news is their source. This is a group that thinks every university in the world is wrong. It doesn’t take much to be delusional about everything else after that.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I suggest you don’t vote. You don’t even know the inane connection every state govt. has with the feds. They al, have Guard units with medical supplies officers that are trained and funded by the feds. They all have federal buildings with instant access to federal and use and consent authority. The problem is, Trump considers everything “ deep state” if he’s not controlling them himself. He’s such a twit.
     
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    Gee, wonder why they do it. You think it has something to do with Congress ?
     
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    Gerrymandering has been around for something like two centuries. Certainly not something that began with the GOP.

    Some type of gerrymandering is pretty much required as the courts have ruled that you have to have some "super minority" districts in order to ensure that a number of minority members of Congress are elected.
     
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    Yes I realize you do not understand how emergency management works and separation of powers. Or about the National Guard. The problem is you are more concerned with trying to blame Trump with something you are showing how much you do not understand such things and as you said if you are unable to know what leaders should be responsible for. Then those leaders should not be elected. Nor should anyone vote if they don't have a clue what a leader is responsible for.

    So please don't vote.
     
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    And some things are beyond the management capabilities and responsibilities like the federal government running all the local hospitals and emergency management which they do not do. They ASSIST them with their responses. Tell me where has the federal government issued stay at home and restricted business activities, what state, what city? What is some state or city was sitting there waiting? And stop with the canard about the County Council dealing with the FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
    Still waiting for one of you who claim the federal government is in total charge of all medical response and management to show me how Trump is running that in New York state and New York city.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Trump is making it impossible for the hospitals in NYC to do their jobs by not giving them the resources they need which they can get in no other way
     
  23. LafayetteBis

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    We haven't really needed the DoD since the Texan PotUS started a little war in Vietnam that he thought would be over in just a few weeks.

    Boys will be boys and they LOVE to play with guns. (Of course, the body-bags coming home to mommy are just a small price to pay-in-the-game.)

    Works every time ... !
     
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    Well I think your response is far more predictable than mine...
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The problem is that Trump isn't even ASSISTING the local hospitals, at least not until recently, Even then it's appearing that a lot of what he's doing is just lying about it and trying to say the hospitals are falsifying their needs and even stealing the supplies they have. It's ****** outrageous, and how the Trumpers can justify such downright cruel and even bizarre behavior when thousands are dying in agony is truly beyond my understanding.

    Jeebus, we have States actually bidding AGAINST each other for desperately needed supplies, thus driving the prices up and ensuring that nobody will get enough. This is exactly what the Feds are supposed to prevent. My understanding is that Trump is trying to do this now, but why did it take him so long?
     

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