I have shot dogs

Well if nothing else I'm sure her children are well behaved. Traumatized yes, but still VERY well behaved.

 

Well if nothing else I'm sure her children are well behaved. Traumatized yes, but still VERY well behaved.

 

Some cultures eat dog. They kill them first. Some cultures may not like the fact we eat cows, sheep, rabbits, deer, chickens, birds, and goats. We kill them first.

 

Wait...is someone trying to equate killing chickens and cows for consumption as the same as killing a dog simply because it was deemed "untrainable"? WTF....sigh

 

Ah...so Noem killed the dog to eat it? What a dumb argument. She killed the dog because she failed at training it properly. Clearly you're ok with that.

 

Depends on your culture and religion.

Yes, I'm OK with that. I'm not going to second guess her. I give her the benefit of the doubt because I find it unusual that she would kill a family pet. She had her reason. I leave it at that. Don't beat me up.

 

What culture and religion kill dogs solely due to being deemed "untrainable"? Because that IS what we're talking about. The issue isn't about eating the animal. It's about killing it for no other reason than it being deemed "untrainable"

Oh I got that already. You're cool with killing a dog because of the failure of the owner to train it properly. Got it.

 

Sure, and some in this world in some cultures even eat dog meat. But even they would rarely boast about killing the dog as if it is something to be proud of.

 

How is that different from killing a mouse, a cow, a pig or any other animal? For whatever reason or for whatever kind of animal, that animal still ends up dead.

 

You literally claimed earlier that you treat your pet dogs differently from how you treat strays. Explain your change of opinion.

 

I'm shaking my head in disbelief at these arguments being made. To compare killing an animal for sustenance vs killing a pet because it wasn't trained properly is insane.

 

One of my dogs killed a chicken. I manned up, took responsibility for the attack being my fault, made amends, and moved on. It disgusts me that the right wingers on this thread tell me I should have just shot my dog in the skull for my mistake instead.

 

Reality check:

1. https://www.inuth.com › world › skinned-and-boiled-alive-what-really-happens-at-chinas-yulin-dog-meat-festival
   Skinned and boiled alive: What really happens at China's Yulin dog meat ...
   Yulin dog meat festival is all set to begin. Thousands of dogs get ready to be tortured to death at the inhumane festival. Here's a quick glance. China's infamous Yulin dog meat festival is all set to kickstart today despite rumours of the ban. In other words, dogs, puppies, cats, and kittens are set to be mercilessly butchered in the ...
2. https://www.independent.co.uk › news › world › asia › yulin-dog-meat-festival-video-china-blow-torch-animal-cruelty-a8969361.html
   Dogs blow-torched alive for meat festival in China
   Video footage shows a dog apparently being blow torched alive ahead of an annual dog meat festival in China. As many as 15,000 dogs are tortured, killed and cooked to be sold at Yulin Lychee and ...
   
   1. https://canoe.com › news › world › horrifying-video-shows-dogs-cooked-alive-tortured-with-boiling-water-in-chinese-dog-meat-market
      Horrifying video shows dogs cooked alive, tortured with boiling water ...
      Disturbing footage reveals the nightmarish realities of the dog meat trade in China as video supposedly shows dogs being cooked alive on barbecues and other horrific acts such as boiling water being thrown at them, Metro.co.uk reported.
   2. https://www.newsweek.com › dogs-rescued-blood-soaked-slaughterhouse-moments-away-killed-1806625
      Traumatized Dogs Rescued From Being Eaten in Yulin - Newsweek
      Jun 14, 2023Science and Health Reporter. Nineteen dogs were rescued from horrendous conditions at an illegal slaughterhouse on the outskirts of Yulin, China, just one week before the city's infamous dog meat ...
   3. https://www.youtube.com › watch?v=ltrD4y0TBC0
      Dogs Skinned Alive, Turned Into Leather In China - YouTube
      Source: https://www.youtube.com/user/ReutersVideoDecember 17, 2014 - Many dogs in China meet a gruesome end in slaughterhouses, supplying skins to the leathe...

 

I don't see it as a right wing vs left wing issue. To me it's a sane vs insane issue.

 

Not a change of opinion. It is a difference in circumstances. I do not like killing a dog. However, if I take it to a vet and it needs to be euphemized, I prefer the vet doing it rather than me.
I see no need to take a stray dog to the vet. I do not intend to keep it and if I cannot get rid of it otherwise, I will kill it myself. There are not many other options. I could take the dog somewhere else and dump it, but that just makes my problem someone else's and is just a cowardly way out.

 

So are you claiming that her dog was a stray or are you saying that strays should not be treated any differently from pets? Which is it?

 

She deemed her dog should not live for whatever reason, so she killed it. Now let's all get a life.

 

yep, she thought she could score points from the conservative base (and she's probably right).

 

Not all of us love the idea of psychotic animal abuse.

 

Wow…so you’re ok with people killing pets for ‘whatever’ reason?! Didn’t like having to walk your pet…so killed it. Was sick and tired of having to clean up the water and dog food that spilled out of the dishes…so killed it. Didn’t like how the cat would ignore you…so killed it. Yup…makes perfect sense for pet owners to just kill their pets for ‘whatever’ reason.

 

I wouldn't be so sure to put it past them. I didn't think conservatives would approve of someone who was immoral, unethical, pathological liar, criminal, and adulterer, but I was dead wrong.

 

when I ran CC in high school, we trained in a very wealthy area of Cincinnati that boasted 5 acre or larger homesteads. Deer hunting is legal there now, and many people owned horses. Dogs were not allowed to run free mainly because they annoyed the many horseback riders. a certain home, near my HS housed a vicious dog that would run from its property and harass or bite joggers, runners, horseback riders and cyclists. The owner had been cited to mayor's court at least three times before it bit one of our team members. The next day the captain, who ended up playing D-1 Hockey and track enigmatically noted that he "needed to break in a new pair of spikes". as we neared the house with the dog-he took the lead-sure enough the dog attacked and he snapped kicked it in the throat. It was dead in about a minute. the news got back to the coach. he interviewed us all. he called the local police and noted that the dog attacked one of his runners. The chief stated "it's about time someone took care of that dog". and that was that. when I used to hunt deer with a bow, the same police department told me to shoot any dog I saw chasing deer. Never saw one do that but that was what the police told us deer hunters to do. I grew up with dogs-my father competed in high level springer spaniel field trials. Last week we had to put down a dog we had owned for almost 17 years. My 26 year old son grew up with that dog and loved it more than just about any other animal we have had. that was tough. But I understand that some dogs are a nuisance or a danger to other animals or humans.

 

Oh spare us the feigned indignation and virtue signaling.

 

There are certainly situations where killing a dog is necessary. Whether Noem's situation was one of them, who knows.

But this whole thing was one gigantic unforced error. I'm not really sure what she hoped to gain from this, but her releasing her biography just in time for a potential national political position is certainly no coincidence. Killing dogs even when necessary is just a fact of life but I have yet to see anybody anywhere walking around bragging about it. Well, anyone that you wouldn't think was a moron anyway.

 

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