I told you, there is a cure for homosexuality.

the more he suppresses his gay thoughts, the more violent and angry he will be

 

It means there may be other genes playing some part in all this. Since most men are heterosexual, and about 10% are homosexual, & some percentage are bisexual, scientists don't yet know the full process played by genes for these varied results. But it is for certain that everyone's sexual preferences are genetically controlled.

 

This is simply false. Paul condemned homosexuality in three different places in the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, and Romans 1:24-32. Moses didn't even bother to condemn lesbianism, but Paul did.

 

That's not true. Being an adult is 100% about doing what is right and that is nearly always contrary to what you want and yes that causes pain, it is no fun and it sucks. It is however not torture. If you are attracted to only married women it is your adult responsibility to not enter relationships with married women no matter how torturous it feels. Same goes for people who are attracted only to underage people or animals.
I don't think conversion therapy is a good idea because you need to be attracted to your partner. HOWEVER, abstinence therapy is totally viable.
Now people have the right to be gay if they want it's none of anyone's business. Some people however believe their own sexuality is sinful behavior but struggle with the desire, such people should be able to get the help they need. And people who provide that help shouldn't be called torturers.

Point blank calling it torture is a damn lie.

 

Unless it was forced, it pretty much means you are at least bi.

 

LOL. Now I need a picture. I have to see this.

 

Such claims might make sense until men are locked up as in jail and in the military and suddenly find their previously hidden gayness.’

https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexuality/feature/secret-history-australias-gay-diggers-anzac
http://theconversation.com/belles-i...tbFoe_eEvwhTh0cGFfN2jGSqTz0DvuopoGYVODqohcVIY
gay war history bibliography
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=SHGRxuaJ0F4C&printsec=frontcover&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/36/a2688636.shtml
http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-secret-history-of-sexuality-on-the-front-20121220-2bp9m.html

 

If not then can you explain the very high suicide rate of those who are exposed to ‘cure by prayer therapy’? Have you cosidered the possibitly being gay has nothing to do with being tempted by Satan but everything to do with being what your creator made you? I could get into the connection between a certain eroginous zone only present in males of our species and an important passage in Genesis but I’ll spare you the nightmares.

 

No he actually didn't. After about the 1940s and 50s when the term homosexual became common to describe someone who has an attraction to the same sex the Bible was edited to make it about homosexuals. But no they never mentioned homosexuality in the Bible because they had no idea what it was.

 

The ‘editing’, mistranslation and expurgations started long before the 1940’s. In the original ancient Greek of the New Testament the term arsenokiotis was used by Paul (it’s uncertain the actual author was Paul but that’s another debate). Students of Ancient Greek tell us this term has a meaning something along the lines of ‘one who abuses friendship for material gain’ or ‘pimp’. Over the centuries the term has been rendered variously as ’sodomite’, ‘pervert’, ‘homosexual’ etc. This is only one instance of this form of biblical distortion which commenced only a few centuries after Jesus was supposed to have departed the planet . In the light of the fact so many branches of Christianity claim their particular translation is the Word of God the entire farce becomes obvious. Then we have the long list of Old Testament prohibitions now ignored by Christians and even some Orthodox Jews such as the eating of shellfish - it’s a long list.

 

There is no evidence people are created gay. All the evidence points to it being environmental.
Is there a correlation between suicide and legitimate torture? If so you might have a case.
I would imagine, well I don't have to imsgine. Sexual addiction is real and takes many forms yup overcoming it isca painful depressing process. I bet if you looked at it closely you'd probably see high suicide rates for all addicts.
Satan does a very small% of tempting. He is not omnipresent he must go from person to person much like we do. He doesn't tempt people to homosexuality, he tempts them to take their eyes off of God, we do the rest ourselves.
Satan hates you and has a plan for your destruction.

 

false!!!

same-sex relationships are NEVER mentioned in the New Testament.

"fornication", means ANY and ALL sexual relations outside of marriage

 

As usual there’s little point in discussing these matters with fundamentalist true believers who have zero knowledge of the last several centuries of biblical scholarship. One point though I will make even though I’m sure you won’t accept it. If by ‘sexual addiction’ you’re including homosexuality allow me to inform you my ‘addiction' has given me over my lifetime far more joy than anything like ‘a painful depressing process’. Love comes to mind but your kind somehow never manage to associate love with same sex relationships. As to taking my eyes of God, which one are you referring to? The monster of the Old Testament or the one who tortured his own son? Why am I focusing on that portion of Christian theology? Because I submit to you raising children to worship a father who created free knowing such would 'necessitate' the torture of Christ on the cross is a poison when fed to the young. Thus is pedophilia induced in so many of your so called spiritual leaders without Satan ever needing to enter the equation. Now go and digest 2nd Thessalonians 2:11.

 

After you digest Romans chapter 1.
It explicitly states that homosexuality is caused by idolatry.

The last several hundred years of biblical scholarship is full of both good and utterly horrible theology. Very little good is coming from modern liberal theology.
Good as dedined by saving souls from hell not making people feel good.
If a person doesn't feel bad about their past they don't understand the gravity of what they have done.

 

Nowhere in Romans is homosexuality even so much as mentioned, let alone asserted to be caused by idolatry.

 

Read Roman's Chapter 1.

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

 

Care to print a retraction?...

New nickname.. I'll just call you CNN.

 

Yes, thank you for showing homosexuality is not mentioned anywhere, let alone asserted it is caused by idolatry.

 

Why? You just showed us homosexuality is not mentioned anywhere in romans, lol.

 

Lol.....

 

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men.

Homosexuality have to ignore the truth not to see it.



Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Idolatry, again you have to ignore it not to see it.

 

Don't care. My God is stronger than your god, and my God says She has no problems with a small percentage of the total human population being gay.

 

This crazy guy never was gay. He's a bisexual.

 

Sadly, as too often is the case, we have to admit we are dealing with a form of madness rather than any sincere attempt to approach the truth. One question remains. Given the long and bizarre list of prohibitions we encounter in scripture why are the vast majority ignored to focus on this one supposed sin, love between two men? How about following some of the other biblical prohibitions such as being a psychic, medium, or spiritualist (Leviticus 20:27), consuming blood (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10), eating a cheeseburger or anything that mixes meat and dairy (Exodus 23:19), manufacturing anointing oil (Exodus 30:33), sacrificing anything with yeast or honey (Leviticus 2:11), waiting too long before consuming sacrifices (Leviticus 19:5–, planting more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19), eating any meat not killed according to the Kosher practice (Deuteronomy 12:21), trying to convert people to another religion (Deuteronomy 13:1-11, Deuteronomy 18:20), or Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple (Leviticus 17:1-9)

As to the claim "The last several hundred years of biblical scholarship is full of both good and utterly horrible theology. Very little good is coming from modern liberal theology.” by what standard are ‘utterly horrible’ and ‘good’ measured? None is given. There is in the end no point in engaging with ‘true believers', as no matter what evidence is presented they glue themselves to rigid, simplistic belief fed to them from the pulpit every sunday.

 

My God doesn't make mistakes, and has no problem with same-sex relationships as long as they are between consenting adults