If you oppose the Muslim Ban, then tell us a BETTER way to stop Islamic terrorism.

Yeah. FS may have misspoken there. It isn't a Muslim ban.

 

Saudi Arabia, the number one exporter of fascist Islamic ideology, had been left off this list. Put them on the list and sue the crap out of them for allowing the 9/11 attacks to happen, and whatever else they are hiding.

 

Do you mean the Shia sect? Right now the Sunni-Shia battle is bigger than any outside threat. All these wars going on Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Syria are all sectarian. If it were up to me I'd let the muslims fight it out and then see who end's up on top of the manure heap. Then see if we have a problem. Of course if nukes are used all bets are off.

 

That's ridiculous. Who changed the O.T.....

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.

8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death.
In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.&#8221

11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call.
In Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.

12. 3,000 crushed to death.
In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.

13. A concubine raped and dismembered.
In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.

14. Child sacrifice.
In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.

15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.
In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.

16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods.
In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.

17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.
In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.

18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow.
In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.

19. God threatens forced cannibalism.
In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.

20. The coming slaughter.
According to Revelation 9:7-19, God’s got more evil coming. God will make horse-like locusts with human heads and scorpion tails, who torture people for 5 months. Then some angels will kill a third of the earth’s population. If he came today, that would be 2 billion people.

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New Testament Verses Which Demand Following the Old Testament

Many Christians claim that the Old Testament laws do not apply to us because Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it!

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be obeyed until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. “It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) “All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness…” (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.” (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 “Whoever curses father or mother shall die” (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,…” (John 1:17).

9) “…the scripture cannot be broken.” –Jesus Christ, John 10:35

http://www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/

 

Ooops - it's almost as if your Bible was, say, oh, I don't know, inconveniently even more violent than the incredibly violent Qur'an in question. That would be funny, wouldn't it?



[Edit: oh my gosh, I just discovered that your god/Bible IS INDEED more violent than even the Qur’an is – wow, who’d a thought that! I thought Jesus was a man of peace. Kind of awkward, no?
Number of Cruel or Violent Passages
Bible 1321
Qur’an 532.
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/06/which-is-more-violent-bible-or-quran.html ]

 

How about the millions of Muslims in the U.S., Canada, and in European countries? How about Sufis? How did they come about? How do you explain them?

 

Incredible post. Good work.
"Gays for Islam".
"Jews for Hitler".

 

My Bible? How many times do I need to tell you I'm not a Christian?

But why are you helping left-wingers deflect from the topic? They would love nothing more than to redirect the conversation away from their brown skinned Muslim buddies onto white Christians, due to the political correctness factor.

 

Like the election you and those that think like you seriously underestimate the President.


Federal courts are unlikely to overturn President Donald Trump’s immigration order banning travel from seven predominantly Muslim countries, according to George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley.

“The law does favor President Trump in this regard,” Turley said Sunday during an appearance on CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS. “I don’t like this order. I think it’s a terrible mistake — but that doesn’t go into the legal analysis. The Court has been extremely deferential to presidents on the border.”

Turley recalled that the courts upheld the Chinese Exclusion Act and noted that just last year former President Barack Obama was warning the courts against “second-guessing” the president on matters of national security and immigration.

“And you have things like Section 1182 of the federal law that gives sweeping authority to the president to withhold either individual aliens or groups of aliens,” he added. “All of that works to the advantage of President Trump.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/t...ump-on-immigration-order-video/#ixzz4XGuojK54

 

I believe the question should ask:

If you are suddenly opposed to the Muslim ban brought out by President Trump, why didn't you loudly oppose the similar restrictions that Obama enforced upon for a total of 36 Muslim nations? (That started in 2011)

Or, are all you young Liberals just sore losers and Trump-haters?

 

Yes, "what jeans to wear" is obviously, OBVIOUSLY, a much much bigger concern in life than approving of a book, calling it the best book of all time no less, that is leading the world to WWIII. Obviously.

 

7 pages and counting, and have the libs offered, per the OP, a better alternative than a Muslim Ban? Nope, not really. Reason #5,494 why they lost the election (house, senate, presidency, governorships, state houses, supreme court - all lost.) Just how far will you go to defend Islam, libs? You are in danger of becoming about as popular as the Whig Party.

 

Like I said, more important things are happening that gaining the approval of some uptight white guy who thinks its their job to cater to his needs. Like working a job, filing taxes, getting groceries, etc.

 

Finally an alternative. Good. MORE banning, apparently.

 

So, what's your solution to Christian terrorism? What do you think causes it? Is it all those injunctions in the Bible to kill unbelievers everywhere?

 

Holy crap that's an evil book! Wow.
Are you sure you didn't just copy/paste from the QUR'AN? This sounds even worse than the Qur'an (if that's even possible). How could anybody believe that a book that evil is from an all-knowing, all-loving "god"? Wow.
So it sounds like FAITH is the real underlying problem (in creating hatred in the world), and not just one particular religion.

 

How about a safe area where the refugees can be protected. Most don't want to leave their countries, would you?

 

They are just not following their religion as written....YET. The danger is that they at some point do follow their religion.

I'm afraid you don't seem to know the first thing about Islam, but hopefully I'm dead wrong about that. So to find out, please tell us the 3 very worst things in the Islamic texts (off the top of your head.) Thanks. If you can't answer this question, then I might suggest that you not comment on Islam until you understand it - but again hopefully I'm dead wrong about this, so we await your reply.

Have a great afternoon.

 

Where did Jesus call for the killing of unbelievers everywhere? I can certainly show Muhammad commanding such a thing.

By the way, could you explain the urge to deflect attention away from Muslims onto Christians? Thanks.

 

Islamic terrorism will not be stopped until Islamic people convince the terrorists to stop it. These dangerous people will keep killing for Allah and will seek ways to sneak in and perpetrate their Jihad BS forever. Banning them is silly as it has no effect on them, they will keep doing it wherever they can. It seems to me the only options are to attempt prevention through serious vetting (as we already do), or kill them all before they can kill us (impossible)

Trumps stupidity only makes a bad situation much worse.

 

Would I want to leave Syria, or Iraq, or Somalia....is that your question? Hehe, are you serious? I think any sane person's answer would be "hell yeah!!" Keep in mind that in Islamic nations one can be KILLED, yes KILLED, for simply writing in a Qur'an (no, I'm not joking), or simply leaving Islam (because Mohammad said to slaughter those who leave Islam), or being accused of being gay, or for simply having sex outside marriage....so OF COURSE they'd want to leave! I can't imagine a sane person saying "no".

Unless of course they are looking forward to having sex with 9-year-old girls, like Mohammad did, THEN I suppose they would actually WANT to stay in an Islamic hell-hole.

 

How many of these "peaceful" muslims turned on their terrorist neighbors and called authorities or pled ignorance and "didn't want to get involved"? It only takes one.

 

Right.

But -

It's not a freaking Muslim ban.

Seriously, some of you aren't helping the cause you support with this misunderstanding.

 

The right believe in actual science. See, science cannot be settled which is why I enjoy using such ridiculous liberalisms