If you oppose the Muslim Ban, then tell us a BETTER way to stop Islamic terrorism.

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  1. tealwings

    tealwings Well-Known Member

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    lets just change everyone's religious texts to secular human standards and all will be well. lol

    killing people is not Gods wish, or any sane persons wish.
     
  2. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe we start with getting our military out of the Middle East.
    Stop supporting countries with governments that abuse the rights of their people.
    Stop supporting insurgencies. Your "freedom fighter" is someone else's terrorist.

    The US government and military is not the enforcement arm of EXXON and BP and we need to stop acting like it is.
     
  3. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Muslims believe in hell, but Mohammad isn't actually the one sending non-believers there, unlike Jesus!!! Mohammad slaughtered a bunch of people, so did Hitler, but Jesus will see that about 70 BILLION people get brutally, savagely tortured alive, just for not believing that his magic is real. So Jesus would be the worst person to have ever lived (if the Bible is true, that is.) If the Bible is NOT true then Jesus would be the biggest con-artist of all time. ALLAH is as bad as "Jesus", but not Mohammad or Hitler, arguably.
     
  4. FreedomSeeker

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    So if we removed our troops from Iraq then ISIS would lay down their arms and NOT try to build a world-wide caliphate, eh? Oh wait, Obama DID remove our troops and yet ISIS still is following Mohammad's example of spreading their god's law by the sword. I appreciate your input, but I'm afraid it's wrong.

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    However, you ARE right in that we can't win this war militarily.
     
  5. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Pray tell, how does banning less than 15% of Muslims do anything to stop Islamic terrorism?
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I have no idea the point you're trying to make
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    You haven't read the Islamic texts, have you?
    You haven't read the Bible, have you?

    God in the Bible committed a worse genocide than even Hitler, as over 20 million were estimated to have perished in his sick "flood". Hitler's Holocaust was less than that. So god is worse than even the maniac Hitler was. Hitler did not kill virtually all innocent animals on the planet, either (Hitler was more compassionate than god) but this sicko "god" did (drowned them.)
     
  8. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Right....and Donald has the answer.
    She didn't win so the point isn't relevant.
     
  9. FreedomSeeker

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    Sorry, my point is that we CAN'T really blame Muslims for following the Qur'an (to wage Jihad)....unless we condemn the Islamic texts themselves....something that Obama and company would never do. Jihadists are just FOLLOW the Islamic texts, and can we blame a person for following the texts of the 2nd most popular religion of all time? We can if we condemn religion, that is.
     
  10. Questerr

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    I work with a Westernized Muslim so I think you are the one with the blatant lies.
     
  11. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    It will keep them from following the Qur'an (waging Jihad) in America, but you make a good point - they will still follow the Qur'an in their home nation if we don't let them into America.

    Do you have a better solution, Q, than this ban?
     
  12. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worse, since the person who attempted to discredit their "prophet" would be immediately killed by any Muslim who saw it.
     
  13. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You've never asked them the questions I've asked you to ask them over the years, so of course you don't.
    Ask this paragon of peacefulness this question: "does Allah know that having sex with a 9-year-old is harmful to the child?" Go ahead, and then get back to us. Thanks.
     
  14. 9royhobbs

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    True, it does work to the advantage of Trump but that doesn't make it the right thing to do. I don'e underestimate him, I thing he's very, very dangerous.
     
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    So did a bunch of people in San Bernardino.
     
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    Right, instead of having tens of thousands of Syrian refugees here who we can't vet, who ISIS says will be used to infiltrate the US mainland, they won't be here. It's pretty much the complete opposite of what Hillary Clinton wanted to do.

    But it's relevant when comparing how the left and right approaches this topic.
     
  17. FreedomSeeker

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    Whoa there, slick!! Questerr assures us that Muslims are peaceful, so I'm sure than in the last 1400 years that those paragons of peace have of course removed the parts of their texts that say to harm non-believers. As a Modern Secular Humanist I'd of course do that if my texts said to harm innocent people, because I and my belief system are not insane. So I'm pretty sure that you are mistaken.
     
  18. ArmySoldier

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    For once we agree. However, until it's contained with those governments and the plan is in place, we must halt anyone from coming from those areas. It's safer than allowing them to come. Plus, Trump should be adding Saudi Arabia to that list. They should be first in line to be banned
     
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    Is "actual science" like "alternative facts"?
     
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    Actually the logic has a flaw some would say. Attempting to prevent those devout muslim extremists to do something, only makes them more determined. You can thank social media for the assistance it gives them.
     
  21. Questerr

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    So Trump's ban gets rid of all the Muslim citizens in America and prevents them from following the Quran?

    My solution would start by actually being a Humanist and recognizing that not every Muslim is a mindless robot with zero nuance in their views like you do (because you aren't a Humanist. You're an anti-theist who irrationally hates all atheists. )
     
  22. FreedomSeeker

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    No, no, no!! If the SB terrorist was actually a Muslim then the good, caring Muslims would have turned him in to the Infidel authorities....I'm pretty sure he was one of those filthy godless Modern Secular Humanists or something!!

    Besides, if he was actually a Muslim, don't you think that CAIR would put their main focus on removing the violent parts of the Islamic texts and not in trying to fool us Infidels into believing that Islam is a religion of peace?
     
  23. Questerr

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    Did Allah order Mohammad to marry Aisha? I think your question is flawed from the start.
     
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    Lefties think they can stop terrorism by asking "pretty please". Has not worked so far. President Trump has taken control now. Common sense rules the day!
     
  25. Questerr

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    Ah, so you are one of those people who believes every Muslim is a murderer.
     

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