Illegals Pouring Into Our Country

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    ....and Obama doesn't care. In fact, he caused it and supports it. He is providing the children who are being sent here by the tens of thousands lawyers. He wants an additional $1.4 billion to feed, house, and support them. He is claiming a "humanitarian crisis," but that is simply an outright lie. The fact they cannot find jobs and gangs are trying to recruit them is NOT an "humanitarian crisis." If it were....then we have one right here as many of our large cities have the EXACT same problem occurring!! So, now....we are going to take some other country's problems and make them our own??? We don't have enough already? And what about the FACT that Obama is purposefully ignoring laws of the land......meaning protecting our borders??? The media interviewed one woman getting off a bus the other day and she said she was coming here to escape a husband who beats her. That's a "humanitarian crisis?????" This is crap. We have our very own Adolf Hitler running this country. If he were white, I have no doubt there would already be impeachment proceedings against this man for ALL that he's done. That is the only reason I can see that would protect him from the kind of lawless behavior he exhibits as the president. And shame on the press/media for not covering this to the extent they need to.

    And now he is coming after Ted Cruz for telling the truth:

    Obama put into place the Deferred Action Program for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program by executive fiat.

    "The parents think, 'If I send my child [to the U.S.], my child will have amnesty.' That's what the president of the U.S. has said," Cruz said. "It is the exact opposite of a humane approach to immigration or to securing our borders."

    As The Hill noted, the year after Obama signed the temporary amnesty program for some illegal immigrant DREAMers, there was a "92 percent increase" in arrests at the border, according to the Border Patrol. Obama has also indicated that he would unilaterally act to ease deportations if Congress does not pass an amnesty bill.

    The Los Angeles Times reported that illegal immigrants who are flooding across the border have said they went north only after reports had been "circulating throughout Central America that parents with children are allowed to stay in the United States indefinitely."

    In fact, the Times reports, "according to immigration advocates and Guatemalan consular officials in Phoenix who have been working to help find shelter for families stranded at bus stations," that "the fact that so many parents with children have been freed to travel within the U.S. has sent rumors flying through Central American nations that parents will not be detained in the U.S. if they arrive with a child – spurring even more families to launch the journey."

    According to the Houston Chronicle, detained illegal immigrants are given "a packet of U.S. government-issued documents ordering them to report to immigration officials within 15 days of landing at their new destination, and to appear in immigration court on a set date." That is as good as a visa in the minds of some.

    Edilberto Lanza Mejia, "a 26-year-old from Honduras holding his infant son," told the Chronicle, "It is a permit to enter the United States." Mejia eventually called family in North Carolina and was transported there.

    An illegal immigrant from Guatemala told a Texas television station that the message being spread in Central America has been, "Go to America with your child, you won't be turned away," as Breitbart Texas reported."

    And Eric Cantor, who is in a challenge for his seat has probably just sealed his own defeat.

    "Earlier in the year, when even House Republicans like House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) declared that one of the "founding principles" of the country was not punishing children for the mistakes of their parents, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) National Council President Kenneth Palinkas warned that such statements may lead more illegal immigrants to cross the border illegally hoping to get amnesty."

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...or-Blaming-Border-Crisis-on-Obama-Lawlessness
     
  2. Flintc

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    Oops, EXCEPT Meskins, doncha know.
     
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    I welcome them all--well most of them. Now if they could just drive all those liberals up to Canada for us, we can get the party started.
     
  4. RP12

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    Mexico is not the only country south of the border. And your quote refers to people coming here LEGALLY. What is it with progressives that cant tell the difference between legal immigration and illegal.. Here is a hint we wouldnt have to keep offering "Amnesty" if they were legal.

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    Mexico is not the only country south of the border. And your quote refers to people coming here LEGALLY. What is it with progressives that cant tell the difference between legal immigration and illegal.. Here is a hint we wouldnt have to keep offering "Amnesty" if they were legal.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and Obama keeps kicking them out, by the millions
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meh, another bogus number from the WH it turns out. Go figure.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    If you lived in an area likely to experience affects from this demographic deluge, and if your job was in any jeopardy, I suspect you'd be a little more concerned about what's happening. But that's how elite progressives are... unless it personally affects them, they don't care about the harm it causes.

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    Not really. The net effect of his policies, and the policies he would enact today if it weren't for the Republican House of Representatives, is tens of millions of additional illegals applying for jobs and unemployment benefits.
     
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    Waiting for the SHTF big time. Who the frick is going to pay for all these urchins? Where are they going to be housed? Who is going to feed and cloth them? How about the diseases that some may be bringing with them?
     
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    We are, and they're laughing at us:

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  10. Flintc

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    Yes, we all understand this. Hopefully, you realize that some time back, the US set up a quota system, and the quota system was strongly slanted toward Western Europe and Skandanavia. We haven't come anywhere near filling the quota of Swedes or Danes or Austrians.

    And those quotas were always slanted against the "scum" of Eastern Europe - the slavs and Romanians and such. But today, even those groups don't fill the quotas. And we haven't adjusted the quotas to the modern world for a long time. The "wretched refuse" is now to be found in places like Africa, Central and South America, and India. We don't want their kind of people, so the quotas are zilch. So much for the golden door!

    We have a new national poem with respect to immigration:
    Money, get back
    I'm all right Jack, keep your hands off of my stack!
     
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    Document these quotas please.
     
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    And your forebears came from where, exactly? Or are you a pure Navajo?

    And your ancestors didn't work for a living? Where did you say they came from?
     
  13. Brewskier

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    Oh, are you under the impression that the Navajo and the rest of the Native tribes were running a country before white Europeans built one, here? Otherwise your analogy is pretty poor, and doesn't distract from my point that fans of illegal immigration like you never have to experience any of its negative affects. You're safe in your white neighborhood and college level job. The only thing you'll see is increased Democrat representation around the country, which is what you want.
     
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    What's that? An excerpt from the constitution, the language of some legislation?

    It's a friggin poem... that has jack squat to do with anything.
     
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    The United States is so screwed.....
     
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    This neatly dodges the question. From it we do NOT learn where your ancestors came from, or when they came here, or whether they found jobs here. Considering those were the only questions asked, omitting any answers to them is quite informative.

    Meanwhile, any study of American history shows that immigration came in waves, and that each wave was strongly resisted and resented. The Irish STILL face some persecution (and job limitations) in Boston. The German wave before WWII was strongly in favor of entering the war on the German side, which made the decision difficult (and postponed it). And so on.

    ANd with each wave of immigration, the complaints were the same -- they were taking American jobs, they were willing to work for starvation wages and undercutting the middle class, they couldn't (quite often, as with the Italians) speak the language, their habits were dirty, their culture was backwards.

    I understand that the Democratic Party is generally perceived as more hospitable to immigrants. But those I've been able to talk to (I lived for a while in South Texas) are more than willing to work - to the point where their employers regularly take advantage of them. They can't speak the language, they don't know the laws, they are terrified of being sent back to starve (along with their families), and thus they essentially become slaves. They work VERY hard so as not to get into trouble, and all I met were scrupulously honest for the same reason. The saying was, if you want the work done WELL, hire a Mexican.

    (And here in Alabama, they passed about the toughest anti-illegals law in the nation. Out of fear, the illegal migrant workers didn't show up to pick the cotton and soybeans, which rotted in the fields. Nobody ELSE would do stoop labor for almost nothing!)

    So do you want dedicated,honest, and hard working people as citizens or do you want to send them back to hardship and poverty while the crops rot? Clearly, you're all in favor of the latter. But if you want to pick soybeans, hey, we have work for you, and how!
     
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    Well we've already opened up three military bases to house and feed this influx.....and the Mexican government is already complaining about the quality of the food........the are bringing with them diseases we haven't seen in forever.........and the 'progressives' think this is all great......its really pathetic.......this is like another Marielito invasion on a much grander scale. Meanwhile, Obummer fiddles in DC.......
     
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    And you will find it engraved in a plaque at what was once Ellis Island. You know, where the Statue of Liberty stands, and where over 12 million immigrants were processed between 1982 and 1954. Probably including YOUR great grandparents.
     
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    Where processing legally process immigrants as opposed to letting them just do what they want and avoid legal processing.
     
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    It's huggy feely platitude, not a sensible thing by which one creates immigration policy. And no, my Great Grandpa was at least 2nd or 3rd gen American.
     
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    Yes, this is correct. Back in those days, the US WANTED honest, hard-working people as citizens. EVEN IF they couldn't speak English, and had never see a flush toilet. Read some of the links I provided.

    The problem here is, the US has the sorts of jobs they are willing to do, the US needs those jobs done, those who hire illegals are riding a gravy train and they know it, because the supply is there, the demand is there, and the market works. Making supply and demand illegal works as well for Mexicans as it does for drug users. Now, if you understood this and if you were sane, what sort of policy would YOU adopt to take advantage of market forces? Hint: pretending you can outlaw market forces might get you elected by the Great Unwashed, but it sure as hell won't fix anything.

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    So what sensible immigration policy would you suggest? Bear in mind that you can't keep the Mexicans out, you can't keep Americans from hiring them, you can't keep them from having children in the US. So what would you do?
     
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    Not only are they illegals. They are moochers that will suck the blood out of taxpayers.
     
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    I understand that democrats are in bed with big business on this. After all, cheap labor is the name of the game and during a crisis of unemployed Americans, what better time to flood the market with cheaper labor eh?

    Somehow it are those same politicians that determine the regulation on immigration and quotas. You would think if they wanted all that cheap labor they could figure something out besides warehousing children on military bases.
     
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    Well, I certainly wouldn't be dumping off busloads of illegals in American cities.
     
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