I'm french, ask me anything

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    I think that would be Russia.
    In Western Europe only France and Britain have effective modern armies.
     
  2. Durandal

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    Pourquoi?
     
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    Beware. Trump is dropping "Team Trump" to become a Neocon.

    I like Le Pen and "nationalist". Globalist place the burdens on working people.
    Can a French laborer really compete against a Polish one? Even to make stinky Camembert cheese which may now be made by any E.U. nation.
    Viva Le Pen.
    Viva La France
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    Moi :oldman:

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    Dead wrong Germany once again. The British army contains roughly 5 brigades. It is indeed quite modern and very well equipped, but there simply isn't enough of it.How good France's army is depends on how you rate the current French MBT and APC. Most Experts do not thing Much of the MBT. There is however a lot more of it than the Brits. Germany is equal in quality to the Brits and has a much larger force.

    Other than nukes no one in Europe has sufficient force projection capability to engage in prolonged combat operations much beyond the European theater.
     
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    Marine Le Pen is the savior of your people. Why do more French people not see that?

    When I visit Paris 20 years from now I don't want to feel like I'm in Algeria. Please make France stay France. K thx bye
     
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    What kind of wine do you recommend with Lapin a la Cocotte?

    And as a follow up, given the number of your fellow citizens who have been murdered by Muslims in your beautiful country recently, do you think maybe it's time to send them back to their mud huts in whatever 3rd world shithole they came from? They certainly do not respect the time honored French values Liberté, égalité, fraternité. And in fact it could be argued their goal is to wipe that notion from the face of the earth.
     
  7. VotreAltesse

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    Lack of discipline, organization. You see often leftis politician betray their word and go support another candidate when they sweared to support someone else.
    Reasons seems in both side (left and right) less and less important. If the facts counteract what you think, ignore the fact, if someone countersaid you, insult him with words like biggot if you're leftist, ******* if you're right winged.


    Marine Le Pen never targeted directly algerian. For many centuries, we had welcomed people from spain, italy, poland, even russia, we were for a long time a open border country. I tend to think that what matters is not the color of skin but culture and deeds.

    Like I already said, I'm not very used to wine because of health issues. However, I would say at least a red wine. White wines are more for fish or white meats like chicken.

    Their is a muslim minority for now 70 years, I know many people who have one arabic parents. Some tend to integrated themselves well, often the less religious however.
    People from muslim culture or muslims are part of the country for decades now. You can't simply split the country like that.

    Furthermore, ISIS admitted openly to want to create civil wars in european countries by favouring the tensions between communities.
     
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    What about LePen ???

    Think she will win ???
     
  9. VotreAltesse

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    That's possible. She's not really liked because french because of the history of her parti a long time ruled by her father, parti in which they were during long time neo nazis or petainists however, at the other side, Macron is the kind of man who talks a lot for saying nothing, and when you read his political programm, you know he will not keep any of his promisses.
     
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    Should be an exciting election.
     
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    I hope so, but the French are even more liberal than the Swedes - if that's possible!
     
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    Find it odd you even initially responded to me. I had a fair, rational question for the OP, and some random person swoops in with their sob story, throwing out the bigot card like a true alt leftist would. Totally random
     
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    Thanks for your response.
     
  14. Montegriffo

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    And where do those murdering Islamic terrorists come from? Oh yeah, they were mostly born in France or neighbouring Belgium. Almost all the terror attacks in Europe have been carried out by European nationals.
    Are you suggesting forced deportations of all of Europe's Muslims no matter how many generations they have been there?
     
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  15. Montegriffo

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    It is not a fair or rational question as you were suggesting that all refugees are terrorists, this is far from true.
    There's a name for people who tar a whole people with the same brush as the worst. Those who call refugees terrorists because of a tiny minority's actions are bigots. You should have the courage of your conviction and own the label or explain to everyone why it is not fair to call you a bigot......
     
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    You have your opinions and I have mine. Also, I didn't say all refugees were terrorists. I am inferring that you can't tell who is and who isn't ESPECIALLY since ISIS says they are mixing in with them.

    But yes, consider that bigotry because the alt left can't go one minute without saying that word.
     
  17. Montegriffo

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    So you were not calling refugees terrorists ? Pull the other on it has bells on.......
    And no, I am not ''alt Left'' not even left. I have never voted for or supported a left wing party. In fact I support my current PM who is a Conservative.
     
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    I was absolutely calling refugees terrorists, as ISIS has openly claimed to be using refugee status as cover. I'd like you to quote me saying "all" of them are.
     
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    I'm suggesting that perhaps some of these folks have taken advantage of French generosity and at the very least Europe ought to consider tightening its immigration policies and asking certain new immigrants to politely go back to their mud huts.
     
  20. VotreAltesse

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    Hard to say. What we call liberals in France are the right winged people who want less economical regulation (which is the real origins of liberals).

    Like I already wrotte, we had a long story of immigration in France who until then get rather well. They were already some discriminations and light problems, but not at that point.

    Guillaume Appolinaire, one of the most famous french poest is born russian, Marie Curie, who got the nobel, and mother of Irène Joliot-Curie who got the nobel too was polish, Goscinny, the scenarist of Asterix, his parents came from Poland, Bugatti founder of Bugatti, Italian, Van Gogh (who never asked for the french nationality but spended the ten last years of his life in France and who is burried in France), a mad man from Netherland, Enki Billal, yougoslavian, Joseph Lagrange despite his french surname was born in Italy.

    Even the french are at the very origins a celtic people who took the language of their roman invaders and then got invaded again by the Frank who finally mixed up with the local elite. At the opposite of german, their is not really a french race.

    Diversity, multiculturalism during a long time made the strengh of the french however most of those people came from christian countries and europe.

    I have the feeling that black people from christian parts of Africa or from Guadeloupe tend to integrate themselves better than the muslims one. But that's just based on what I lived, no statistics.

    "Radical" islam is a totally new kind of danger for french people.

    The integration of the polish or italian for instance was not totally easy, but with perseverance, we finally succeeded.
     
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    According to a scientific study in 2012, 23.3% of French people identified themselves as atheists. And only 15.5% said they were certain that God exists. How do you account for such, in my opinion, disinterest in greater truths and life after death? Are the French so self-indulgent they care only about the pleasures of today and tomorrow? Or maybe they are turned off by some of the teachings of the Church and are defiant because of their pride? I do not understand? You have the undeniable facts of Lourdes, Catherine Laboure of Rue du Bac, and the extremely well documented miraculous life of Jeanne d’Arc, and none of that matters?

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    http://www.livescience.com/19972-atheism-belief-god-countries-ranked.html

    Percent of residents who said they were certain of God's existence:
    Japan: 4.3 %
    East Germany: 7.8 %
    Sweden: 10.2 %
    France: 15.5 %
    Great Britain: 16.8 %
    Spain: 38.4 %
    Italy: 41.0 %
    Ireland: 43.2 %
    United States: 60.6 %
    Poland: 62.0 %
    Israel: 65.5 %
    The Philippines: 83.6 %

    Percent identifying as atheist:
    East Germany: 52.1 %
    France: 23.3 %
    Sweden: 19.3 %
    Great Britain: 18.0 %
    West Germany: 10.3 %
    Spain: 9.7 %
    Japan: 8.7 %
    Russia: 6.8 %
    Israel: 6.0 %
    Italy: 5.9 %
    Poland: 3.3 %
    United States: 3.0 %
    The Philippines: 0.7%
     
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    Catholic church took side with the kings systematically with the kings, the power. They disinteressed themselves from the miners, the factory workers and didn't protected them a lot. They were assimilated to the oppressing nobility.

    Furthermore, we were a long time extremlly catholic, even extremist. Atheism exist for a long time in France, we could even say it was born in France. The first western atheist know was ironically a priest named Meslier.

    The pope during a long time opposed himself to the principle of a republic (because kings of France were kings by the grace of God). It's not really surprising that when the republican finally won they didn't really appreciated catholicism.

    But yes we aren't religion people anymore. I practice Buddhism, but I was for the biggest part of my life athee and tend to still define myself as an athee.
     
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    The culture and deeds of the people you guys are letting in right now are going to destroy your country. Please For the Love of All That is secular and French vote for marine le pen.
     
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    Pretty difficult in the dark and middle ages for any religion or movment to make strides against nobility and powerful regimes for better worker rights or peasant rights. I think the Catholic Church did not abandon these people as you say.

    It was also quite necessary in more primitive times to have a powerful ruler, a monarchy, in order to keep some sense of security, peace and governance. The Catholic Church was very powerful in the hearts and minds of the masses and of course the kings recognized that and were allies in many causes. Like the Crusades, which was a noble endeavor despite its sins.
    Yeah, the French Revolution and its own tyrants didn’t fare too well did they? --- unless you cannot make moral judgments as to what constitutes evil. It wasn’t long before France needed another king of sorts (Napoleon) to bring law and order to its shores.
    I believe most people are anti-Catholic or anti-Christian in Europe because they want freedom to do as they please without thoughts of retribution. I do not consider most non-religious Europeans or atheists to be very deep thinkers. For one, they have little argument or evidence against a number of miracles I have cited. I wish you well.
     
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    Many had "State ID" papers that declared they were Jewish. Not Russian, Polish, etc.
    Had they been considered Russian or Polish, etc. they probably would not have come to France.

    I was in Paris in 1970 and 1974. Between those year McDonalds built their Golden Arches in sight of the Eiffel Tower on the Champs Elysee. Quel dommage. Really.

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