In a rational world, the school and the police should be in jail, not the kid

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Did the boy claim it was a bomb? No he didn't. What others thought it was is irrelevant due to that. Especially considering the science teacher examined it and acknowledged that it was nothing more than a clock.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Actually I have no problem that they called the police. But the very moment that it was determined to be a simple clock they should have said "oh, my bad, I apologize for the inconvenience" and left it at that. Arresting the kid and suspending him was far too much. Reminds me of this picture...

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    Sorry what others thought is not irrelevant. Not in an age when I five year old girl can get sent home from school for having a 3/8 inch charm that looks vaguely like a pistol on a charm bracelet. My point here is that all this damn zero tolerance crap needs to go. And further that blaming the cops for stupid crap that they are compelled to do by laws written by sorry ass educrats isn't productive either.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Bu the way for what it is worth in a sane world the cops would never have been called in the first place.
     
  5. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    The science teacher told him not to show it to anyone else. Obviously, there was a reason for that.
     
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    I'll tell you why.

    Because we live in a country where the rule of law no longer applies and the only thing that really matters is the agenda of the US government, which happens to be the dehumanization and demonization of any group of people who are resistant to the idea of becoming the US government's slaves. Because Muslims in the Middle East are aggressively against being enslaved by the US government, they are therefore subjected to a systematic process of dehumanization and demonization which serves as a justification for US government imperialism in their countries.
     
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    All of this makes me wonder what happened to this country since I grew up in the 1950's. As kids we would bring our cap guns to school to act like the Lone Ranger during recess. Now if a 7 year old kids points his finger at someone and says bang, he is arrested, suspended and expelled. Instead of receiving credit for a unique clock built by the kid by his science teach, he is arrested for having a bomb, maybe he said bang at the wrong time.

    What the heck has happened to our society as a whole. Total lack of common sense. A 8 year old boy kisses a girl and they bring up the kid on sexual assault charges. This nation has gone nutso.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Probably because he knew this kind of idiocy would happen.

    Regardless, the facts are that the boy never claimed it was a bomb. Science teacher knew it wasn't a bomb nor intended to be construed as such by the boy. The boy did not break any laws. And unless the school has some sort of policy against clocks being in a briefcase the boy did not break any school rules. And in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. What's going on here is wrong pure and simple.
     
  9. CJtheModerate

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    Becuase it looks like a bomb.
     
  10. Pred

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    Go walk into school with a FAKE gun you 3D printed, that looks at first glance like it could be real. Is this ANY different? Won't the kid who brings it to school be questioned how he could be so STUPID as to bring something that LOOKS like a real gun to a school, in this climate? Probably expelled for such a stupid act. Why wouldn't a fake bomb also be met with suspicion? Obviously, the teacher wrapped it up before cops would have to be brought in. HOWEVER, would the cops be called if a kid plopped a fake gun on his desk during class?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    So everyone with a briefcase that happens to have a clock in it should be treated as if the person holding it is a terrorist/criminal? Hmm... wonder what clockmakers or those that repair clocks would think of that idea. Or is it just that the boy was Muslim that makes it not ok?

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    There's a huge difference between a gun, fake or not, and a clock.
     
  12. JakeJ

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    The new standard erasing probable cause. Arrest anyone and everyone under "better safe than sorry." A lot of white wealthy suburbs such as Irving, Texas will do that. See a "bummy" looking person walking at night and they'll take him in to explore if he might be responsible for area burglaries and thefts, holding him under suspicion. Its a way to tell him "get out of town" without saying it.
     
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    Every backpack and lunch box COULD be a bomb, all being suspicious. There have been vastly more backpack bombs and bombs in boxes than clocks in a briefcase. I think bombs in a briefcase is a Hollywood fiction thing, isn't it?

    Every kid with a backpack, box or lunch box should be arrested to be "safe than sorry." After taken to the police station and the contents determined to be safe, the child will be released but still expelled for a fake bomb scare.

    This was the premise of arresting that kid. BUT you will see over and over again many on this forum who do believe everyone but them should be arrested so they can feel safer. 150,000,000 Americans in prisons and jails wouldn't be enough for them.
     
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    No it doesn't. Only in Hollywood do bombs have all that electronic crap. A $10 pocket watch and a tiny 9 volt battery with 2 wires is sufficient. Hollywood fiction isn't REALITY. It is surprising how many people don't know that.
     
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    Can you imagine how berserk they'd go if some boys plays cowboys and indians with cap guns? CPS would take the children putting them in foster care and the parents prosecuted for child abuse. The children then would subjected to hours and hours of PC psychological conditioning and bullying, mostly explaining how evil their parents are.
     
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    You cannot say that this does not look like a bomb.

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    Since when are English teachers expected to know that?

    So, you can make a bomb out of a pocket watch and a battery, but it's ridiculous to think that you can make one out of a clock?
     
  18. Kal'Stang

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    Nope, it doesn't. I see the brown/red display, some electronics, no explosive compounds what so ever.
     
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    I'm now convinced this was just a publicity stunt. The kid didn't invent a clock out of spare parts. He just disassembled a clock and made it look like he invented one.

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/...wkins-questions-ahmed-mohamed-motive-backlash
     
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    "Arrest anyone and everyone under "better safe than sorry."

    That's an exaggeration. Not the way the Texas authorities operate.
     
  21. jdog

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    No, sometimes they just open fire and shoot everyone around like they did in Waco recently.
     
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    I am unfamiliar with this incident. Would you care to briefly explain?
     

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