In Eric Garner case, Justice Department declines civil rights charges against New York City police o

Don't resist arrest and challenge the police to a fight, it's fundimental.

 

And the partial strangulation contributed to overtaxing his heart and killing him. Since strangulation, partial or otherwise, is never an approved use of force for the NYPD, it presents somewhat of a problem on use of force.
No one said anything about them not arresting him at all, no one said anything about a man's right to sell loose cigarettes in front of a competing business or anything like that. Assessing the actual argument made, instead of the strawmen you offer, is key to understanding.

 

An investigation that would be easier if he was already facing charges.

 

But sure about that, I’m not involved with the case. May not be true at all.

 

Having leverage over someone you think is part of some criminal conspiracy is always good.

 

All he had to do was turn around and get handcuffed and he'd be alive today......

“Every time you see me you try to arrest me,” Garner told Officer Daniel Pantaleo....“I’m tired of it. It stops today.”

He wanted a fight.....he got one. Peabody Sr always used to tell me "be careful what you wish for....sometimes you get it."

 

It is, and this charge is always possible.

 

That’s true, these potential charges have been hanging there for awhile. Who knows how much he’s already talked

 

Until he was unconscious and eventually died. The coroner accuses the cop of having killed him... to the best of his medical knowledge.

 

Oh, I see. He was killed because of Democrat cigarette tax. Never mind the guys that choked him to death....You guys are a riot.

 

The coroner says he was. End of discussion.

 

You support a bunch of cops, who had a policy to drain the black population with bogus claims.
They cops really raped the civil rights there, and were racist to the core.
The outrage is totally fair. And them cops mostly got away with what they have done.
The death of Michael Brown only ignited this. Do note:
The insurance company of Ferguson paid well over a million to the family of Brown.

 

100% false!!!!

homicide simply means that someone died due to the actions of another person.

the actions causing death need not be intentional or malicious to be a homicide.

there is NO evidence that Pantaleo sought to kill Garner.

it was an accidental death.

 

His resisting arrest and fighting with the officers led to his demise. He was not strangled he was talking and breathing. It was a seat belt takedown which is proper procedure and Garner resisted and struggled and that is what led to the forearm around his neck for 5 seconds. There was no intentional attempt to strangle him or use a choke hold or do anything other than take him into custody. Garner started the fight and challenged the police to take him down.

Well yes it is. Either they arrest him or not. And he has no right to sell untaxed contraband on that street in front of those stores where business owners who DO obey the law and DO pay their taxes are trying to make living. What strawman I gave you reality. Here's more reality, our most sacrosanct legal body, the secret citizen grand jury said no crime. The DOJ said no crime.

So tell me what was supposed to happen. You're the store owner who sees the criminal outside selling untaxed contraband undercutting your price and harming your business which obeys the laws and pays taxes. You call the police to get it stopped. Several days later the guy is doing it again so you call the police. You see the police outside talking to the guy then them leave. The guy is still there. You call the police and ask why didn't they arrest him. They tell you he didn't want to be arrested so they didn't. Is that what's supposed to happen.

 

if Garner did not suffer from Asthma, heart disease, and obesity, the chokehold would not have killed him.

 

The the medical examiner listed several causes, none of which were damage to the trachea or neck bones. The video proves he was breathing long after the restraint. He didn't die at the scene he died of cardiac arrest on the way to the hospital. You can restart your discussion.

 

Was it, or was it not, proven the "hands up" claim was factually incorrect?

 

He was not choked to death he was alive when they transported him from the scene he died on the way to the hospital from cardiac arrest.

 

people who are choking, cannot speak.

its a fact.

 

The false narrative about Michael Brown's death ignited this and misplaced protest. The city wrongfully and against the interest of the city, other than to keep some citizens from continued violance and burning down the city, settled with the family and the insurance company had no choice to pay.

The shooting was totally lawful and called for use of force and entirely caused by Michael Brown.

 

So he died of natural causes. I see.

 

People who are choked to death usually die when they are being choked. Not several minutes later and of cardiac arrest. There was no damage to his trachea or neck.

 

Brought on by a traumatic physical act, his fighting and resisting arrest. If an obese person with heart disease already decides to get in shape and without any training or warm up goes and starts lifting a lot of weight and he has a heart attack was it from natural causes or did the weights kill him?

 

Well at any rate, it’s a damn shame this guy who was just trying to make a buck ended up dead. I saw the tape and it certainly could have been handled better. Same thing with the Rodney King deal. Even when presented with clear video tape of a bevy of cops beating the hell out of this guy, the cops and their apologists insisted that they were totally in the right.

 

The choke hold of course contributed to his death but it was not the sole cause