In open letter, Jewish Americans come out in support of Ilhan Omar

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  1. Antiduopolist

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    Courageous Jewish Americans defend the Honorable Ilhan Omar against the vicious attacks of corrupt Democrats, Republicans and vicious, mouth-breathing anti-Semitic/Islamophobic bigots:

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-americans-come-out-in-support-of-ilhan-omar/

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    The letter states that she has been “falsely accused of antisemitism” and that there was nothing anti-Semitic about calling out the “noxious” role of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in American politics.

    It went on to say that “The pro-Israel lobby has played an outsized role in producing nearly unanimous congressional support for Israel”, and slammed AIPAC and other lobby groups including the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the fossil fuel lobby for its “anti-democratic” legislative influence on US politics.


    Why do ignorant, hate-fueled anti-Semitic/Islamophobic bigots and corrupt politicians choose violent lies over simple, rational truth?

    Can their evil greed, satanic stupidity and repugnant hate ever be overcome?

    Why are people so easily duped by obvious lies?

    Will Israel stop it's violent policies of ethnic cleansing which have destroyed countless Muslim lives?

    Or will US taxpayers continue funding Israel's violent ethnic cleansing and other crimes against humanity?
     
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    It's hilarious how progressives simultaneously call people nazis and attack Jews.
     
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    So what does future ISIS bride Omar think about China's influence on American politics?
     
  4. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Example?

    Or are you just derailing?
     
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    Self hating Jews are still alive and well. We had plenty of those in Germany way back when, as their friends and neighbors started disappearing. Those Jews deserved it, because they must have done something wrong. They won't come for me. Sorry. Bzzzzzzt. You have to take notice when people in the U.S. are allowed to openly express outright hatred of certain people.
     
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    Especially when that hatred is coming from the POTUS and is allowed to influence policies put forth by his administration.
     
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    The only public attacks against Jews that I have seen was when the self professed Nazis were screaming "Jews will not replace us!" as they were goose stepping with their torches and weapons. That was just prior to their violent outbreaks in which they beat peaceful protesters, actually murdering an innocent young woman by brutally running her down as an encore. You know the vile group I am referring to ... the Nazis whom POTUS referred to as "good people". The violent, hate-filled white supremacists who he refused to condemn because they had praised and supported him. SMH at anyone twisting the words of a Muslim congresswoman into something she obviously didn't mean while defending Trump over something he obviously did mean.
     
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    Quotes please...and not clipped ones. Full quotes please, in context. I await copy and pasted edited versions of what he said about Mexican rapists or certain "good people", so I can laugh at how easily one can be manipulated into believing what was said. Sort of like a vice president candidate said she could see Russia from her house, as if it actually happened. Nothing like calling your grandmother a typical white person though. That makes you a scholar=)
     
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    You are not an authority on racism because you are of a certain race, this notion is itself racist.

    The opinion of American Jews on this topic is no more or less valid than anyone elses.
     
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    So the pro-Venezuela left is now at the throat of the pro-Israel right. Don't you just love it when globalists fight each other?
     
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    First, the phrase, “The pro-Israel lobby has played an outsized role in producing nearly unanimous congressional support for Israel,” is insulting. You do not get into Congress without the vote of people who put you there; you do not stay in Congress without the support of the people who put you there. If any Congressperson obeys a lobby group and the majority of their constituents don’t like it, we vote against them.

    Second, the phrase “anti-Semitic/Islamophobic,” is beyond stupid, there is no math there, Islam is not Semitic, even with the following quotes by people who were not Semitic:

    “YUSUFALI: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.

    PICKTHAL: Ye are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind.”

    Americans using simple rational truth, can read the Islamic literature and KNOW Islam is worse than Judaism, simply by the irrefutable facts of the history of conquests and ethnic cleansing, which is clearly seen in this quote taken from the UNITED NATIONS:

    "We, the Palestinian Arab people, who believe in its Arabism...Article 8: Bringing up Palestinian youth in an Arab and nationalist manner is a fundamental national duty. All means of guidance, education and enlightenment should be utilized to introduce the youth to its homeland in a deep spiritual way that will constantly and firmly bind them together." http://www.un.int/wcm/content/site/palestine/pid/12363

    Third, the phrase “evil greed, satanic stupidity” most perfectly illustrates Islam, it was greedy in its conquests, which get us all the way to India (see above), and satanic in assigning to God a lie, making God a liar, a lie that Jews could keep their covenant by converting to Islam:

    “[2.40] O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and be faithful to (your) covenant with Me, I will fulfill (My) covenant with you; and of Me, Me alone, should you be afraid.
    [2.41] And believe in what I have revealed, verifying that which is with you, and be not the first to deny it, neither take a mean price in exchange for My communications; and Me, Me alone should you fear.
    [2.42] And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it).
    [2.43] And keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and bow down with those who bow down.”
    “[2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.”

    There is no mistaking it, the truth of the greed and Satanism of Islam is clear in the commentaries:

    "110a. Not only are the Muslims the chosen people of God, who are now called upon to be the standard-bearers of Truth in the world, but they are at the same time declared to be the best of the people that had ever been chosen for this purpose. This was no doubt due to the excellence of that Great Teacher who thoroughly purified them of the worst vices and made perfect the light within them. No prophet ever found a people in a worse condition, and none ever raised his people to such eminence. Note that the excellence of the Muslim people lies in their enjoining good and forbidding evil and in their great faith in Allåh. If they lose these characteristics, they lose their excellence as well." http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch003-123.pdf

    "111a. The Jews in Arabia sided with the enemies of Islåm in their endeavour to extirpate the new religion, and this notwithstanding their pact with the Muslims, but they were not successful in inflicting any serious harm upon the Muslims, and whenever they openly faced the Muslims they fled. As the concluding words show, the idolaters, who gave them secret promises of help, never came to their aid when they were in distress."

    112a. Almost the same words, excluding the exception, occur in 2:61. The Jews had already been subjected to the greatest humiliation and disgrace before the appearance of the Prophet. But with the advent of Islåm they could better their condition either by accepting the covenant of Allåh, by which is meant the acceptance of Islåm, or by making a compact of security with such men as could give them protection. This remains true to this day." http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/index.htm

    Let’s remember the mindless words of the great traitor to freedom of speech: "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.” (Obama)

    “One day while the Prophet was sitting in the company of some people, (The angel) Gabriel came and asked, "What is faith?" Allah's Apostle replied, 'Faith is to believe in Allah, His angels, (the) meeting with Him, His Apostles, and to believe in Resurrection." Then he further asked, "What is Islam?" Allah's Apostle replied, "To worship Allah Alone and none else, to offer prayers perfectly to pay the compulsory charity (Zakat) and to observe fasts during the month of Ramadan."
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/bukhari/bh1/bh1_46.htm

    As we see there, Obama is an idiot, Islam is NOT a faith, Islam is a government with prayer to be seen and judged by men and taxes.

    Let's do a little comparison of the books on one tiny little point, and then think about psychology 101.

    "5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
    7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
    8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him."
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...13&version=KJV

    "[4.142] Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah, and He shall requite their deceit to them, and when they stand up to prayer they stand up sluggishly; they do it only to be seen of men and do not remember Allah save a little."
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kora...V0&byte=114839

    "[5.58] And when you call to prayer they make it a mockery and a joke; this is because they are a people who do not understand." http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kora...V0&byte=158021

    "[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Then if they repent and keep up the prayer to be seen of men...

    Tell me now, which is more logical for domination and keeping conquered people in a state of subjection, prayer in a closet or prayer that can judge you on how fast you get up?

    So who is right, Jesus in the verses I quoted or MoHamMad's Koran?

    Therefore, you see, we see the ethnic cleansing of Islam, we see it in their Arabism charter, we see it in their perfect prayer which is militarized to be seen and judged, and we see it in the Moslem countries ethnically cleansed of all Jews and Buddhists…


    In conclusion “mouth-breathing” is insulting, it proves beyond all shadow of a doubt you are BIGOT.
     
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    Excellent Post - :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    First - you do not get into congress without the support of big money interests. That the pro Israel lobby has played an outsized role in producing support for Israel is a statement of fact. The religious right has played a large part as well.

    Second - The claim that Islam is not "Semitic" is false. Arabs are Semitic people - same as Jews. In fact - when it boils down to it -Most Caucasian will have at least some Semitic blood flowing through their veins.

    The rest of your post is mostly unrelated nonsense- Judaism and Islam are connected and are very similar in many ways.

    Obama is not an "idiot" for claiming Islam is a faith - It is just as much a faith as Christianity and Judaism.
     
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    Anyone can run for Congress, without money too, and win. If you insist your DEMOCRATS got in there with big money interests, feel free.

    If Islam is Semitic, then one would become Semitic when they join; sorry, Semitic blood does not come with joining a government. I mean really, how stupid, isn't that the claim of the so-called Palestinians, the Russian...Jews aren't really Jews?

    Christianity is a faith, no taxes, no perfect prayer, you don't even have to join a church to be one...Islam is not a faith, their false prophet said so.
     
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    1) why are you calling them my Democrats .. I despise Blue Establishment.
    2) The idea that big money is not involved in both elections and lobbying is preposterous nonsense on steroids
    3) Semitic is a genetic group - not all Muslims are Semitic but many are and the religion was founded by Semitic people. Same with Judaism - not all followers of Judaism are Semitic but many are and the religion was founded by Semitic people.

    What do taxes and lack of a perfect prayer have to do with whether or not a religion is a faith ? Those of Islam "have faith" just like those of Christianity.

    Define what you mean by "a faith" - what is required for a religion to be "a faith".
     
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    Ok so let me get this right, you think hatred is coming from the Potus but what Omar has said multiple times isn't. This my friend is partisan politics at it's finest. The only thing Trump has ever said was during the Charlottesville stuff when he said there we're good people on both sides. In context he wasn't talking about the KKK people he was talking about the hundreds of others that didn't want the statues taken down, not because they were kkk but because they were supporting history. Believe it or not you don't have to be a KKK member to support historical statues. Either way your side blistered him for the dumb comment and use that to claim he's racist. How in the hell can you with a straight face say what Omar said is not racist, remember this isn't her first time. The hypocrisy knows no bounds I guess.
     
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    What you mean like the Zionists that did a deal with the Nazis and broke the world wide jewish ban on trade with the Nazis?
     
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    1) Okay, you don't vote DEMOCRAT, but obviously have no clue that people have run for Congress and got in without any big money interests backing them.
    2) I never said big money cannot be involved, I reject the Bigoted statement that it must be.
    3) Founded by a genetic group does not make the religion Semitic; God, a monotheistic one, is over countless genetic groups in countless galaxies, in countless solar systems.

    A faith has no required taxes or perfect prayer, a government can have faith and those things, but it is not simply a faith. A faith has nothing but a faith, in the beginning of the narrative Abraham had nothing but faith, Christianity returned to that; laws are government, faith can change the laws according to the following of a spirit, therefore, there can be no final prophet (such as in Islam); Christianity is a faith that is not bound by the letter as Islam is; as Paul said, "the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life," that is why Islam is death.
     
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    These are really way far left Jews
     
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    In the end they meet in darkness.

    INTELLECTUAL, MORAL, AND EVENTUALLY PHYSICAL DARKNESS IS ALWAYS THE END-STAGE OF SOCIALISM: Venezuela Goes Dark.
     
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    1) I did not say that people have made it to congress without big money - where you have no clue is in claiming that big money is not part of 1) getting in and 2) has an influence once you get in.

    2) I never said that "It must be true" and you did in fact reject the claim that big money was involved - it was your premise.

    3) What is this gibberish- I stated that both Judaism and Islam were founded by Semitic people - what part of this do you not understand.

    taxes have nothing to do with whether a religion is a "faith" ... what on earth is this "perfect prayer" ?

    The rest of your commentary is made up nonsense. Those of Islam have "faith" in the same way Abraham had faith - they are far more faithful in this respect than Christians or Jews of today = willing to sacrifice for religious belief.

    Changing laws on the basis of "Faith" is "EVIL" - it is an incarnation of SATAN - something Jesus preached against.

    How is Christianity not bound to its own doctrine ? Just because much of Christianity no longer feels bound by all of OT Jewish Law - does not mean it is not bound to other laws. This has nothing to do with faith.

    Lastly - you have no clue what you are talking about. The "MAJORITY" of Christianity does not accept Sola Fide "Salvation by faith alone" and nor is this the salvation formulation given by the Jesus of Matt/Mark.

    You obviously think you know something about the teachings of Jesus via some man made dogma you were taught from some protestant - likely fundamentalist - denomination. I suggest reading the Bible.
     
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    Sorry, I don't read the tin foil hat propaganda.
     
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    The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine in 1933–1939.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

    Trying to pretend it did not happen or that it is a conspiracy theory won't work!
     
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    I did not say you said that people have made it to congress without big money, "I never said big money cannot be involved," that is a direct quote, and that is why I see no reason to respond to much of what you said since you obviously have an extremely poor reading comprehension.

    It would be meaningless to explain how the Holy Ghost works, to you there is only dogma, as if I must follow someone other than God. "For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" YOu just don't get it.

    You asked another question about "perfect prayer,” but first you would have to learn to read, and how you could miss it visually, I have no clue. On every horror movie or anywhere they want to show Islam, they show them praying, otherwise they just look like other people. The simple fact that their book demands the Jews bow down with those that bow down, you bring up me reading the bible, and you respond to this topic but don't know such a simple fracking fact about their prayer, proves a level of ignorance on your part that is astoundingly base.

    "37 And of His signs are the night
    and the day and the sun and the moon.
    Adore not the sun nor the moon, but
    adore Allåh Who created them, if He
    it is that you serve.

    38 But if they are proud, yet
    those with thy Lord glorify Him
    night and day, and they tire not.a
    Prostration"

    "38a. The recitation of this verse is followed by an actual prostration; see 7:206a."
    http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/ch041.pdf

    "206 Surely those who are
    with thy Lord are not too proud
    to serve Him, and they glorify
    Him and prostrate themselves
    before Him.a

    206a. The recital of this verse is followed by an actual prostration, so that the physical state of the body may be in perfect agreement with the spiritual condition of the mind. There are in all fifteen occasions in the Qur’ån where the believers are required to prostrate themselves, and the Prophet’s practice was to prostrate himself when reciting such verses whether it was a recital during prayer service or on ordinary occasions. Other such verses are: 13:15; 16:50; 17:109; 19:58; 22:18; 22:77; 25:60;
    27:26; 32:15; 38:24; 41:38; 53:62; 84:21 and 96:19."

    Bam, right toward that Idol.
     
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