Instacart is firing every employee who voted to unionize

no employer would ever do it voluntarily, can you imagine if the mines were given the choice to give the workers rights or not.... never would of happened

 

corporations, not companies in general, many of your big corps are more in business to sell stock shares than a product

 

Plenty of illegals to work in their places for coolie labor wages.

 

Except in real life, that's not how it happens. In a non-union environment the company has the final say like it or not.

You can walk into your bosses office and ask for a raise or to have other concerns addressed. One of three things can happen, 1). you walk out with a raise or other concerns addressed; 2). you can walk out without a raise or other concerns addressed; 3). You can walk out without a raise or other concerns addressed and told "you're fired". When you negotiate it is based on a position of strength; in a non-union environment 99% of the time it's the company who is bargaining from the position of strength.

What many people fail to realize, in many cases the issues in the workplace are not just related to monetary but also working conditions and benefits as well, all of which can be addressed through a labor contract in which all of the employees have input and a say in the matter. Many companies and unions can form a working partnership which mutually benefit each other since it is in the best interests of both to do so. Through unionization, this can be achieved.

 

Look what Amazon is doing. Haha



The thing is. Would it really cut into the bottom line significantly if they just employed a few more people to ease the strain in the distribution centers.

I’m no fan of unions since rove dealt with them from the outside for a long time and it’s not pretty. I’m more for successful corporations treating their people fairly and Amazon cuts corners in their distribution centers compared to corporate.

 

Ah yes, god job to the GOP for creating and maintaining this system of de facto slavery. Great job.

 

Now there is a deep understanding of business for you.

 

It is not the GOP that is advocating importing cheap labor.

 

they are changing their business model and those ten employees who unionized will be among the 2K getting shitcanned. I don't see anything illegal about it, though the writer of the article stretched a stretch to get to this anti-union angle on the story.

 

I don't know but I'll bet it was illegal just the same.

 

Ummm, it was the REPUBLICANS who legislated to allow this to happen. It wad REPUBLICANS who have changed the rules/laws around collective bargaining.

This is about the most ridiculous post ever on this site. It is not even remotely based on facts

 

I bet it wasn't. What they are doing is getting rid of their people going into certain grocery stores as the stores themselves will be assembling the pick up orders instead of Instacart. Instacart will just be delivering them. They therefore no longer need their own people to go around the stores and pluck the items off the shelves.

 

Perhaps it will be settled in court.

 

wow, that post was so informative, anything to add?

 

Perhaps but one half of one percent of those being terminated who were unionized are going to have a tough time proving they were targeted since the company has been steadily reducing the number of in-store shoppers since before they even unionized.

 

My point is that it may not matter. I've been through one of these organizing drives and the laws favor those organizing 100%.

 

They were already organized so that ship has sailed.

 

My impression from reading the thread was that the organizing was going on currently. I withdraw my comments. In our case we had the warehouse employees organizing. We explained to the leaders that we couldn't afford the union wages and that it would be less expensive for us to move the function to a warehousing company. We explained that we would shut down the warehouse completely if they organized. They organized. We shut down the warehouse and moved the inventory to a warehousing service as promised. A couple of the former warehouse people got jobs with the warehousing service to handle the extra business. It wasn't pretty.

 

But it is the GOP that enables them to be imported slave labor. Threatening someone with deportation if they try to do something like unionize or demand wages is how modern slavery works. I'm perfectly fine with more workers coming in. There's no real evidence they depress wages. It's disputed and it's been disputed for decades now. So the best thing to do is give them a chance to get citizenship.

 

The concept of "good" varies drastically from the perspective of management and the employee.

I own a professional services firm, and not a single employee even interns earn under $15/hrs with all other full time employees between 45k and 85k with full benefits, retirement, and bonus programs. However, most of these employees dont understand what it takes to keep the company running outside the terms of their own employment.

Nor do they see the second mortgage on my house or cashing out previous retirement plans for operating capital.

Employees approach management ideals from a very different perspective of risk and reward.

 

Should employees have the right to quit?

 

Supply and demand is a proven fact. A dispute is only a different opinion but if the people coming and taking menial jobs then find a need to unionize it is a pretty safe bet that wages are being suppressed. Labor has a cost just like any other commodity and if you flood the market that value drops.

 

DUH they are call investment firms what's your point?

 

Do you understand the effects of higher wages for the same or less work and benefits and a less flexible workforce has on a business?

Completely on topic to the post to which I was responding and the thread. Care to actually comment?

 

Dear god the left just can't get it.

Just because someone doesn't support unions, doesn't mean they don't think people should have the right to unionize.

This right here is as perfect an example of leftist mentality I've seen in awhile.

The left absolutely can't grasp people supporting the rights of someone else while at the same time disagreeing with them. To the left, anything and anyone they disagree with can be destroyed and it's ok...because they disagreed with it. They don't care about fairness, laws, etc. If they disagree with you, anything done to destroy you is justified.

Just look at this post I quoted. DaveBN just couldn't grasp that someone could support a person's right to unionize and think it's wrong to fire all who want to unionize while also being against unions....absolutely couldn't grasp it.