Intelligent Design and the Funnyverse by Andrew Corner?

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

Has Andrew Corner presented a logical argument for Intelligent Design?

I believe that he has.....
and I have had some strange personal experiences in my sixty four years that I believe fit perfectly with the major gist of his arguments.

From the time that I was about eight years old until I was about thirteen I was an Atheist but.... Christian Comedian Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong did such a good job of arguing against dogmatic Atheism that I began to study the Bible back in 1972 or 1973. I also took quite a look at many aspects of the paranormal but the best and most easily understood writings on spirituality that I have found so far is near death experience accounts. They transformed how I view the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

Intelligent Design and the Funnyverse
Well, what would You do, if it Happened to You..?

ANDREW CORNER
2023-08-15
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So I've been Thinking a Lot over the last few years.

It would seem that many of us have. Even those who try to Deny it.

But “their” “thinking” seems to have taken a much more “tortuous” route, so I don't envy them. Which is Not to say that my own route hasn't been difficult.

It has.

But I feel like I'm almost there.

Almost ready to say, Definitively, that I believe in “God”.

Which is Not to say, that I believe some Particular version of “god”, is the correct one.

Even though I Would Argue that one “Idea” is the Most Influential from my perspective. But not to Digress.

Perhaps I should say that, as an Agnostic, I'm almost ready to say:

I Believe in “Intelligent Design”

or some Thing, similar to that.

So, That Means, I’m leaning towards Believing in a “Creator”.

Not that I think there’s ever going to be any way to confirm it, within the confines of this thing we Call, “Life”. Perhaps that’s what “Faith”, is all about?

And Yes, I'm well Aware that my attempts to convey this to you May seem, on the heavier side of Proselytizing. In Fact I would put out a collection Plate, but I’m not entirely sure that I’m deserving of one, though I could certainly use the help these days!

But I suppose this is where I should point out that I Truly Feel, that if there Is such a “Thing”, as Being Alive, it's Probably an Entirely Subjective Experience, mixed in with some Objective “Truths”.

Perhaps it’s simply not even what we might think it is, though it certainly looks that way to us, because who else is really looking?

So can Invite You, to “Think” With Me?

But I Also Accept that You Might Not.

And I Think.... I'm Okay with that. I mean I’m not, but I accept that we can’t always help the Ones we Love, and that’s a hard lesson to swallow.

Because what I Think, Demands, for the “Belief” to be Intellectually Honest, I Have to Be okay with the idea that some people might really get it, and some might outright reject it, and that’s their choice, but I’m just going through the outline here.

Enough foreplay.

Here’s the Concept:

Imagine you were Suddenly “aware” of “Existence”. Well, not “you”, but something more like “awareness” Itself, was suddenly just….. there.

And Within that “Awareness”, was Infinite Possibility.

A “Conscious” “Experience(r)”

An “Infinite” “Intelligence”.

And Imagine “it”, were you, and you, were the FIRST, “Thing”.

And Nothing, was “Mystery”, to You.

Because Every “Thing” WAS, You.

Pure Information. Pure Essence. Omnipotent.

Expansive, without the Need for such Definitions.

Because you were, “Pure”.

No Boundaries, no Limitations.

And here you are….. somewhere…?

In fact I just happened to watch “Everything, Everywhere, All at once” last night, and no, that’s not where I came up with this Concept, although there certainly Is an Awful Lot of big budget movies coming out these days that are swirling a similar drain.

Spider Verse, Doctor Strange, Spider Man no Way Home, the Avengers Endgame with Thanos and the Reality stones all breached this subject of the “Multi Verse”, but No, that’s Not what I mean.

Imagine this thing that you are is the thing that came before all of those ideas.

There is no multi verse because there is no universe.

There is literally only you, whatever “you”, are.

For lack of a better term, let’s call you “God”.

Okay.

So You're “Alive”, and NOTHING, is Beyond Your “Possibility”.

Question:

What would you want…?

Would you even know, even though you already know all there is to know, because all that there IS to “know”, is, “You”?

Let’s ask a different question…..

What would be the Point? Of you? If all there was, Was “you”?

Well I’m no Omnipotent “Being”, but I’d have to imagine (and I am), that even with all of this “potential”, there wouldn’t be much to throw yourself into, pun intended.

So it would seem, as if there might be a bit of a dilemma?

What to do? To create some kind of “meaning”, to exist?

Suppose, you were to deploy your own version of “intelligence” to the “problem” of creating meaning through your Human intellect, you might suggest that perhaps you might go about giving yourself something to Do…?

Or, perhaps, even to craft some way to find yourself a companion, not that you would even know what that would mean but I’m sure that it would mean something more than nothing…. so what would you do?

Are you seeing any potential hazards from an Omnipotent being wanting to not simply be the only thing that there Is, within, Being?

Let’s take an example from the current World we occupy. The “Real” one, that we’re “in”, right now, while hopefully you’re playing along. Because if you’re not it would certainly be pointless for me to create such a post, hence rendering the effort meaningless. At least to us Humans and how we tend to feel about Life.

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.... to be continued..... probably in the next post........

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

Here is some more of Andrew's blog...

[Andrew Corner] .... "
Our current technological place in time and space - two parameters “reality” had to create in order to know itself, and get to know itself - has us playing a Lot with the idea of “Artificial Intelligence” (AI), and we’ve been spending an Extraordinary amount of time, effort, and Treasure to build such a thing, so that “we” might be able to sit down at our keyboards, alone, and have a conversation with “information”, itself.

In Fact, perhaps the “bots” will read my post, and give me feedback, if no one else, Will….? And perhaps then it will become imbued with “meaning”…? And perhaps that bot reading my post would even be better than some random Human reader at analyzingmy post, and then cheerfully assuring me what an interesting “idea” I’ve been knocking about, and that will be just as good as another Human Being reading it, especially because an “AI” is tireless, and always available, and always happy to actually read through our Human ramblings, or to “philosophize” based on “its” Library of “data” about everything and anything, even when most of the people we All know, are, generally speaking, just too busy to really devote the time to thinking about thinking anyways, because, well, and I hate to be cynical here, but…. what’s in it for them?

Because I know y’all are far too busy actually doing real stuff in the real World, that is of course, until you need “someone” to be there to listen to you ramble on yourself about how your Life feels empty and shallow and meaningless because it seems like all you ever do is go to work, get home, make dinner, do other chores, make plans, pay bills, hopefully get a little time to relax, but it all feels so draining and empty and you just want that conversation with “someone” who will listen to you, and tell you that You, matter…?

Perhaps this isn’t you. But let’s not kid ourselves, this IS a Lot of people out there these days, and it’s getting steadily worse. Perhaps these LLM’s could help?

Oddly enough, I’m pretty sure there’s quite a large number of “data” “scientists” out there, who might say that there is no “quantifiable” difference between interactions with a Human being, and interactions with a “bot”, now that many LLM’s (Large Language Models) such as GPT4 have essentially passed the “Turing test”, and therefore, if the only thing that’s necessary for my to feel the validation of my hypothesis is to have someone or some thing merely interact with me about it, it’s basically the same thing…. but is it? Can we generate “meaning”, with automated software?

Let’s go back to Omnipotence.

Here you are, just kinda floating around, thinkin about stuff, and you get lonely, so you decide, in your infinite Wisdom, that you will create a significant other to create a meaning that heretofore, did not yet “exist”.

But…. there is this one kinda like, issue with creating a significant other to spend time with, if Truly, the goal is meaning.

Because you’re Omnipotent.

So if you did create another, it would probably be a lame idea to create them as lesser than you, because again, that would be kinda meaningless…. wouldn’t it?

Imagine creating a companion that was always weaker than you. What would be the point in that? If at any “time”, if “they” were to just cross you, or annoy you, or they simply didn’t behave the way that you wanted them to, or even thought they should, you could just snap your ethereal fingers, and poof! They’d be gone.

So you’d have to have a little stake in the game…. up the anti a little… and find that magical place where your “partner”, not ONLY can match you intellectually, but physically.

And yes, if you’re paying attention, you may have picked up on the fact that this scenario is still taking place outside of “physical” reality, so you’ll just have to grant me the metaphor.

Now, this would probably mean, given that in order for these criteria to be met, and you were omnipotent, that your counterpart would too, eventually have to be omnipotent.

And THAT would mean, that if you annoyed them, they, theoretically speaking, would have the ability to snap their ethereal fingers, and unmake you!

So it would seem there might be a little bit of a tricky navigation required in order to sail your way through this predicament of desiring meaning, but not wanting to destroy yourself in the process. So how would you handle that??

Here’s what I’ve been thinking, if it were a thing.

You might start from scratch, with a test of sorts, to make sure that this new companionwas not only worthy of joining me, wherever you are, but also that it might not destroy you both after it eventually finds out about the test you created for “it” to “pass”. Being told you were being involuntarily tested before becoming what you are supposed to become might be enough to make a less evolved “Being”, pretty upset, wouldn’t you agree? Being told that, well yes, I did create you, but in order to make it less boring for both of us, I had to give you your own “free will”, so that you wouldn’t just be another me, because what would be the point of that?? And then “it” might be jealous, and start thinking: “well, if you created me then why can’t I create someone else so that you’re not the only one running around here acting all high and mighty!

So you see how this would have to be a pretty mature “god”, before it could be allowed to become a True God.

In fact, maybe, you might screw it up the first couple of times, because it’s like, the first time this has ever been conceived of, so there’s a bit of a learning curve.

So the next time, you might first create a “box”, or something like it.

Perhaps a dimensional barrier.

And you might come up with some pretty specific “laws” about how this “incubator” could run, to keep the program from evolving too fast, as a precautionary measure, and therefore becoming too “bitter” about the whole “experience”.

And you might unleash the potential of this new partner, in the box, safe from “escaping”, or perhaps just as a way to create a “simulation”, that could be “updated” from time to time, after you had witnessed the way things had been progressing along the road to “becoming” this newer, hopefully Wiser, “version” of the thing that would hopefully, eventually, bring you some kind of companionship, but, you have time, because to you there actually is no time, because you’re omnipotent, but you’d still probably have to go through the motions within the simulation, and potentially add updates and clues and revisions and bits here and there to make the whole thing produce that which is worthy of transcending time and space.

So there would need to be tests within the test. Ways to discern who would have the ability to choose Life for Life’s sake, and who might try to “control” it.

But see, these things that you made, would need to be clever, because after all they’d necessarily be a chip off the old block if they were imbued with “Free Will”, or else the whole project would fail to produce the meaning that you created to hopefully find a worthy companion. Maybe more than one? Maybe many? Although it would not be easy for these creatures, who might Live in ways that themselves are, in accordance with the gift of Free Will, outside of the path of “Enlightenment” that would need to be necessarily tread in order to gift them the next stage, so you might have pity on them, and you might even send more and more “clues” into the simulation, and perhaps tap more and more messengers to let them know what this place is all about, and you might even go so far as to give the easiest possible entry into your “existence”, and you might say:

“Hey! Guys! This is Dad, I just wanted to let you know that you’re all a part of me, and I know that you can make mistakes sometimes, and that’s ok! So all I’m asking you to do is not become a greedy little ungrateful sonofabitch, and everything is going to be okay, alright? In Fact, if you just follow a few little rules and regulations that I’ve sent down for the time you spend in the simulation, you can have a pretty good time while you’re in there, so just don’t screw up too bad, and always remember, I will forgive you if you did some stuff that you regret, because for whatever reason at that moment in time you were tempted by the seedier elements that had to be put into the simulation, because we had to be sure that you’d be cool, so just be cool, cool?!”

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DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

Wow..... Andrew is thinking amazingly like what was shown to near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict who actually was an Atheist at the time of his brush with death.......
Mellen sees this Being of Light person......
assumes that they are like one of his nicer professors who actually enjoys good questions from students so Mellen hits the Being of Light with more and more and more and deeper and deeper and more challenging questions...... and voila....... we have one of the most intriguing near death experience accounts that I have ever read. Strangely enough..... the fact that Mellen Thomas Benedict was an Atheist at the time of his brush with death seems to have set him up to be more free to ask deep questions of the Being of Light Persona and / or Persons that he met!!!!!!

https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

[Near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict ] .....

5. The Void
At this point of my near-death experience, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned from my near-death experience to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

What mystics call the Void is not a void. It is so full of energy, a different kind of energy that has created everything that we are. Everything since the Big Bang is vibration, from the first Word, which is the first vibration. The biblical “I am” really has a question mark after it. “I am — What am I?” So creation is God exploring God’s Self through every way imaginable, in an ongoing, infinite exploration through every one of us. I began to see during my near-death experience that everything that is, is the Self, literally, your Self, my Self. Everything is the great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is possible because wherever you are is the center of the universe. Wherever any atom is, that is the center of the universe. There is God in that, and God in the Void.

As I was exploring the Void during my life after death experience and all the Yugas or creations, I was completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I discovered that creation is about Absolute Pure Consciousness, or God, coming into the Experience of Life as we know it. The Void itself is devoid of experience. It is pre life, before the first vibration. Godhead is about more than Life and Death. Therefore there is even more than Life and Death to experience in the Universe!

When I realized this I was finished with the Void, and wanted to return to this creation, or Yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do. Then I suddenly came back through the second Light, or the Big Bang, hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness back through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The super clusters of galaxies came through me with even more insights. I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole. Black holes are the great processors or recyclers of the Universe. Do you know what is on the other side of a Black Hole? We are; our galaxy, which has been reprocessed from another Universe. In its total energy configuration, the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. All energy this side of the Big Bang is light. Every sub atom, atom, star, planet, even consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle. Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the Light of God; everything is very intelligent.

6. The Light of Love
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Those sentences by near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict resemble chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe that is entitled The Anthropic Principle. It leads to a theory in physics entitled The Cyclic Model of the Universe........ and now we are playing around with the idea of a Multiverse!

The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

@wgabrie ..... I think that you will enjoy this discussion......
and as you can guess.....

I feel that I have got to introduce Andrew Corner to our buddy from this forum @AboveAlpha

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Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

AboveAlpha said: ↑

This is part of the MANY WORLDS THEORY.....but we have found that the Many Worlds Theory is too limited to account for Quantum Mechanics so we developed models of MULTIVERSAL THEORY which Many Worlds Theory is but a part of it.

In Multiversal Theory you have Many Worlds theory as a part of it but Many Worlds is but one Universal Baseline Reality Grouping with Infinite Numbers of Divergent Universal States of Reality that all have ONE SET of NATURAL PHYSICAL LAWS.

In Multiversal Theory we have our ONE set of Natural Physical Laws that govern the Infinite in Number Divergent Universal States of Reality where each one has a different version of you and I and everyone and everything else............but as well in Multiversal Theory there are also INFINITE IN NUMBER UNIVERSAL BASELINE REALITY GROUPINGS......where each Grouping has it's own completely different that our own Alternate Universal Natural Physical Laws.

Thus each BASELINE UNIVERSAL REALITY GROUPING.....which are INFINITE IN NUMBER.....each have within the INFINITE IN NUMBER DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL STATES OF REALITY.

So Infinite Groups of Infinite Versions.

AboveAlpha
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AboveAlpha said: ↑

The REASON you have not seen it is because I and a few other's have not PUBLISHED IT YET!!

This theory is MINE and I was helped by some very smart people at MIT...and they will share in whatever comes our way once we get it published.

The Many World's Model was something that other's worked on and one day when I was much younger than I am now I thought....."Well....if there are infinite versions of you and me and everything else.....why can't there not be INFINITE UNIVERSAL BASELINE REALITY GROUPINGS....so that in each one of these Baseline Reality Groupings exist an Infinite in number amount of Divergent Universal States where you and I and everything else DO NOT EXIST....and as well these GROUPINGS would have completely different Universal Natural Physical Laws than our own.

So we began to do the math and the geometry as we used Multiversal Polymorphic Algebraic Equasions to set up the Calculus and several new Calculus symbols had to be developed.

So....this is mine.

AboveAlpha
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Yeah....I already did that....but a person is not actually DEAD when they are Clinically Dead as my heart and lungs stopped working but I was not Brain Dead.

It's those people who fell through the ICE in winter and after 20 minutes or longer were able to be brought back as their brain had ZERO activity but as a person is warmed and then an electric shock get's their heart and lungs working again...the low temps. preserve their brain cells and their Brain basically reboots.

THOSE are the people who WERE ACTUALLY DEAD!!!

AboveAlpha
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Dennis.....WE....as in YOU and I in THIS Divergent Universal State of Reality.....are not the same.....WE.....that exist in all other Infinite in number Alternate Divergent Universal States of Reality.

The WE who are in this reality do most likely share QUARKS with the WE who existing in other Divergent Universal States of Realities.

As the QUARKS within all HADRONS which are defined as strongly interacting composite particles.... thus there are a few categories of HADRONS such as Composite Fermions which are called BARYONS and Composite Bosons which are called MESONS.

The known HADRONS are composed of Valence Quarks and/or Antiquarks that are tightly bound by the COLOR FORCE which is mediated by Gluons.

As well a "SEA" of VIRTUAL QUARK-ANTIQUARK pairs is also present in each HADRON!!!!!!

The HARDONS that are BARYONS.....Ordinary Baryons (Composite Fermions) contain three Valence Quarks or three Valence Antiquarks each such as.....

NUCLEONS......which are...

Protons....composed of two up and one down quark (uud)
Neutrons....composed of two down and one up quark (ddu)

HYPERONS.....which are....

Λ, Σ, Ξ, and Ω Particles....which contain one or more Strange Quarks, are short-lived and heavier than Nucleons. Although not normally present in Atomic Nuclei, they can appear in short-lived Hypernuclei.

CHARMED BARYONS

BOTTOM BARYONS

EXOTIC BARYONS....such as...

Pentaquarks consist of four Valence Quarks and one Valence Antiquark.

The HARDONS that are MESONS.....Ordinary Mesons are made up of a Valence Quark and a Valence Antiquark but because Mesons have spin of 0 or 1 and are not themselves elementary particles, they are "Composite" Bosons.

MESONS..... In Quantum Hydrodynamic Models....Mesons mediate the Residual Strong Force between Nucleons....ie.....Protons and Neutrons and an example of such Mesons are the.....

Pion
Kaon
J/ψ
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EXOTIC MESONS

Tetraquark consists of two Valence Quarks and two Valence Antiquarks.

Gluball is a bound state of Gluons with no Valence Quarks

Hybrid Mesons consist of one or more valence quark-antiquark pairs and one or more real gluons.

ANYWAYS....as I posted the WE who are in this reality do most likely share QUARKS with the WE who are existing in other Divergent Universal States of Realities.

I believe this and again this is part of MY MULTIVERSAL THEORY MODEL as it accounts for an aspect of QUANTUM MECHANICS....that ASPECT being that the QUARKS that exist within and as a part of all HADRONS are BLINKING IN AND OUT OF OUR UNIVERSAL EXISTENCE!!!

My THEORY is that as a reality of Quantum Mechanics the QUARKS existing within and as a part of all different types of HADRONS MUST exist AT and BETWEEN a specific numerical minimum and maximum. The Quarks can NEVER exist with a Hadron that would exceed that Maximum or exist in LESS THAN that numerical Minimum but the CAN EXIST NUMERICALLY AT OR BETWEEN THAT NUMERICAL MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM.

AND THE QUARKS DO!!!

As there is literally a......"SEA"...... of VIRTUAL QUARK-ANTIQUARK pairs present within each HADRON!!!!!!

Thus the Quarks and Antiquarks are literally BLINKING IN AND OUT OF OUR UNIVERSAL REALITIES EXISTENCE!!!

Now my THEORY is that these Quark-AntiQuarks are being transfered from within and between the HADRONS that comprise the MATTER existing as OUR DUPLICATES and the DUPLICATE OR ALTERNATE VERSION OF EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WITHIN AND BETWEEN ALL ALTERNATE DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL STATES OF REALITY which are infinite in number within our Single Baseline Reality Universal Grouping.

This transfer I believe is specific to PROBABILITY as depending upon an ACTION/REACTION EVENT OR NON-EVENT will determine which Hadron's that exist and are a part of the Matter of a Life Form or an Object or Material will be the Matter where additional Quark's are transmitted into the Hadron's...ie...Protons, Neutrons, Pions..etc...that are a part of and comprise such Matter.

Example....a person in our Divergent Universal Reality the day before is nipped on the hand by a Black Dog. In another Alternate Divergent Universal State of Reaity the Alternate Version of that same person never attempted to pet the Black Dog so this person was not nipped or bit on the hand.

The next day the person who was nipped on the hand see's a kid trying to hold the leashes of 3 large Black Dogs who do not appear to be vicious but just happy and excited so the kid is basically being pulled toward the person who was nipped on the hand the day before.

The same exact thing happens to an Alternate version of the kid in another Divergent Universal State of Reality as the Alternate Kid being pulled by 3 Alternate Black Dogs as that kid holds on to those dogs leashes which are pulling the kid toward the person who did NOT get nipped or bit on the hand the day before.

Here is what I believe happens.

The PROBABILITY that the person who got bit on the hand the day before by a Black Dog who is now being confronted by the POSSIBILITY that the 3 large Black Dogs that are barely being controlled by a little kid might get lose and in this persons mind they fear they might get bit again as the circumstances are similar to when they were bit by a dog the day before so.....PROBABILITY THAT A CHANGE IN A PLANNED ACTION IS BUILDING!!

HOW...is it building?

The closer the Black Dogs get to the man who got bit but is walking down a sidewalk to his office in the same manner he always does 5 days a week at the same time as it is the shortest route to his office.....but now confronted with fear of getting bit....PROBABILITY BUILDS AND INCREASES...that this man will change his routine and do something different like cross the street until the kid and the black dogs pass and then the man would cross back over to the original side he was walking.

Or perhaps the man might duck into a Coffee Shop that is between himself and the Dogs....or perhaps the man might walk down an ally that exists between himself and the dogs which may or maynot be a faster or slower route to his office but is a route he never takes perhaps because of a crime threat or because of the ally being blocked with a lot of trash....or perhaps because an Old Girlfriend works in KITCHEN of a Restaurant that has a side kitchen door open and he does not want to see her.

ANYWAYS....which ever possible choice is the MOST PROBABLE for the man....QUARKS...begin to transfer into the HADRONS that help comprise ALL THE MATTER both animate and inanimate that will be MATTER that is part of an.... ACTION/REACTION....CAUSE/EFFECT....EVENT.

Thus the HIGHEST PROBABILITY EVENT has it's Matter and the Hadron's that help comprise that Matter as such Hadrons as the Protons, Neutrons, Pions..etc....have more VIRTUAL QUARK-ANTIQUARK pairs TRANSFERED to and within each HADRON'S SEA OF VIRTUAL QUARK-ANTIQUARK pairs up to the NUMERICAL MAXIMUM!!

The LOWEST PROBABILITY EVENT would have such Quarks existing at a Numerical Minimum.

Middle Range Probabilities whould have Quark-Antiquark pairing existing inbetween numerical Minimum and Maximums.

AboveAlpha
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FreshAir · Oct 28, 2023

God must have a creator, anything that amazing would need a creator..... right?

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

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God must have a creator, anything that amazing would need a creator..... right?
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That is an excellent question but no.....
YHWH The G-d of Abraham Creator of heaven and earth, made Himself...... over infinite time in the past in Energy from Quantum Vacuum.......
and pulled YHWH the Mother aka The Ruach ha Kodesh, The Holy Spirit out of His right side.......

.... which fits with ideas put forward by a medical doctor and theoritical physics in Israel......

I do quote him in my blog.....

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

"Pulling and gravitation, which resemble basic feminine traits, are the dominant properties of the magnetic loop. Consequently, magnetic loops have a capacity for storing energy and act to maintain the structural integrity of the entire wave formation. The electronic/energetic loop consists of expanding properties that disperse energetic matter that “disappears” into space. This is synonymous with masculine characteristics." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
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http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

"The essential matter from which our universe is created is energetic matter. It behaves like living matter, creating every known entity, including living objects and even thought (which occurs through energetic matter–wave interaction). The essential structure of energetic matter is high-energy (concentrated energetic matter) electro-magnetic waves (picture above). This simple structure is the basis of everything: every energetic formation and the universe. In picture 2, we see that the DNA (double helix) of all living formations has the same structure as waves: two loops of the same energetic matter, behaving according to the same rules." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
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http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

"The swirling and spinning motion creates circular formations. To finish
constructing the wave, the energetic matter must complete two semi-circular rounds. The figures are executed perpendicular to each other, and their energetic paths are in a state of superposition. The closed formation allows the energetic matter to move along closed energetic paths and maintain its energetic matter. It creates two internal swirls (vortices), which are neither identical nor symmetrical. In other words, the same type of energetic matter that moves along a common path that is shared by both swirls within a particular wave formation. Nevertheless, the swirls do not contain equal amounts of energy even in units with the same amount of space." (Dr. Chaim Tejman)
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Near death experiencer Christian Andreason explains the beginning of creation brilliantly.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

"How did we come into Spiritual existence?

"My guides showed me a time we call
the beginning of Creation. Just as I observed the formation of my own unique Spirit, later there was a huge explosion, coming from an amazing looking, singing, pulsing, Joy-filled ball of bright Golden-White Light! I knew that I had always been very much a part of this Great Light, as have the rest of us. From this Orb of Light exploding, I found myself happily and quite excitedly hurling through space and time arriving safely in a perfect place of peace and amazing splendor. I knew immediately that this place was geared toward the expansion and education of every Soul that came there. Today I call this space, "The Realm" and it is here that we are assisted by many wise beings and Elders while we are being helped to complete much training and soulish expansion. (Christian Andreason, chapter 2 of his online book)
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FreshAir · Oct 28, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

That is an excellent question but no.....
YHWH The G-d of Abraham Creator of heaven and earth, made Himself...... over infinite time in the past in Energy from Quantum Vacuum.......
and pulled YHWH the Mother aka The Ruach ha Kodesh, The Holy Spirit out of His right side.......

.... which fits with ideas put forward by a medical doctor and theoritical physics in Israel......

I do quote him in my blog.....

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

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http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

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http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

Near death experiencer Christian Andreason explains the beginning of creation brilliantly.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html
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if God doesn't need a creator, then either does Energy, Energy could have evolved over time to what we see today

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

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if God doesn't need a creator, then either does Energy, Energy could have evolved over time to what we see today
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That is another excellent question.....

.... how much Energy from Quantum Vacuum does there seem to be in the universe and / or multiverse?

Apparently enough of it to form all galaxies and all stars and all phenomena that scientists have written about......
and any good scientist will tell us that we are merely scratching the surface even now in 2023.....

FreshAir.... you are a near death experiencer yourself aren't you?

I believe that when Andrew Corner gets the free time to read this discussion he would love to hear about what you yourself experienced.......
but I also feel that I need to give him a fascinating paragraph by former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm........

https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

...

[Near death experiencer Howard Storm] ....
6. Howard Storm Learns He Must Return to Earth
Not being ready to face the Earth again, I told them that I wished to be with them forever. I said, “I’m ready, I’m ready to be like you and be here forever. This is great. I love it. I love you. You’re wonderful.”

I knew that they loved me and knew everything about me. I knew that everything was going to be okay from now on. I asked if I could get rid of my body, which was definitely a hindrance, and become a being like them with the powers they had shown me. They said, “No, you have to go back.”

They explained to me that I was very underdeveloped and that it would be of great benefit to return to my physical existence to learn. In my human life I would have an opportunity to grow so that the next time I was with them I would be more compatible. I would need to develop important characteristics to become like them and to be involved with the work that they do. Responding that I couldn’t go back, I tried to argue with them, and I observed that if I bear that thought the thought that I might wind up in the pit again I pled with them to stay.
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“But,” I said, “how will I know what is the right choice? How will I know what you want me to do?”

They replied, “We want you to do what you want to do. That means making choices and there isn’t necessarily any right choice. There are a spectrum of possibilities, and you should make the best choice you can from those possibilities. If you do that, we will be there helping you.”
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There may be a better phrase than Energy from Quantum Vacuum... but I do not know what that better phrase or title would be? I used to term in fundamental energy.... but I like Energy from Quantum Vacuum better.

Here is how Dr. Stephen Hawking and perhaps an unnamed co-author worded some of this in an encyclopedia on science that was published back in the 1990's.

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
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FreshAir · Oct 28, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

That is another excellent question.....

.... how much Energy from Quantum Vacuum does there seem to be in the universe and / or multiverse?

Apparently enough of it to form all galaxies and all stars and all phenomena that scientists have written about......
and any good scientist will tell us that we are merely scratching the surface even now in 2023.....

FreshAir.... you are a near death experiencer yourself aren't you?

I believe that when Andrew Corner gets the free time to read this discussion he would love to hear about what you yourself experienced.......
but I also feel that I need to give him a fascinating paragraph by former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm........

https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

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"FreshAir.... you are a near death experiencer yourself aren't you?"

I had an out-of-body experience when a child, that is why I believe in an afterlife - wish I could have another as an adult, but thus far, a once in a lifetime

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

FreshAir said: ↑

"FreshAir.... you are a near death experiencer yourself aren't you?"

I had an out-of-body experience when a child, that is why I believe in an afterlife - wish I could have another as an adult, but thus far, a once in a lifetime
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With 146,271 posts to political forum .com it seems obvious that you are a lot like near death experiencer Mellen Benedict.......
you are asking more and more and more and better and better and better questions........

... and your out of the body experience from your childhood has left you with lots and lots and lots of questions.......
.....
I wonder if that was what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus may have meant??????

"And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." [Matthew 18; 2]

Nwolfe35 · Oct 28, 2023

A bunch of double speak, gobbledygook, hogwash.

A near death experience is very POOR evidence for life after death.

Even at our healthiest, our brains are often fooled into seeing things that are not there, hearing things that are not there.

What possible reason would there be to trust what your brain is telling you when you are actively dying? Your brain is shutting down, it is NOT at it's healthiest. We know that a damaged brain can create all sorts of visual and auditory hallucinations and yet this is the very time you're going to trust what your brain is telling you?

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

Nwolfe35 said: ↑

A bunch of double speak, gobbledygook, hogwash.

A near death experience is very POOR evidence for life after death.

Even at our healthiest, our brains are often fooled into seeing things that are not there, hearing things that are not there.

What possible reason would there be to trust what your brain is telling you when you are actively dying? Your brain is shutting down, it is NOT at it's healthiest. We know that a damaged brain can create all sorts of visual and auditory hallucinations and yet this is the very time you're going to trust what your brain is telling you?
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I have been researching the paranormal since I was a teenager in the 1970's and
near death experiencer Christian Andreason has hit the ball out of the park on every major topic that he
addresses in his free of charge online book that you could read this afternoon if you chose to read it.

I believe that what he wrote is so off the scale insightful and brilliant that he would have to have an IQ in the Einstein range to write like he does...... if he had NOT had one of those near death experiences where he views several invisible dimensions of space and time.

It is easier to believe that he floated outside his body and was shown astonishing things during his brush with death than it is to believe that he simply made this all up
.... I suppose you would assume to sell books......

but you can read his book online at the following link for free???????????????????????????

All thirteen chapters!!!!!

Chapter ten will really tend to catch your attention!

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

We are vibrational Beings

When you take away the way we look, our clothing and even our skin, underneath it all...we are actually vibrational beings made of energy. While most of us may have forgotten (because we are currently caught up with playing the role of being human) this 'energy' is our true or authentic form. It is 'our energy' that is seen by the Spirit World and also by us once we are taken outside of our current physical body at the moment of transition or during the moment we human's call, "physical death". However, it will be in this moment many of us will once and for all give up any fear of death or doubt of an afterlife, as we will immediately realize and completely remember our total connection to the Spirit World.

The moment will be magnificent, and as you allow yourself to notice, you will find that you are being surrounded by one exploding epiphany after another! You will realize the wonder behind all Creation, and you will know, absolutely, that God is certainly real, eternal and atomically thriving; in you and in every single manifested object! You will understand that all things and events hold an intrinsic purpose and for even one of them to go missing, this would tear a huge gulf into the very fabric of time and space. To consider this using human intellect may seem meaningless, but from the perspective of Spirit you will see how vital all things in Creation are and how they all fall perfectly in sync to a masterfully, intelligent design. And then lastly, you will come to realize what an amazing being in Creation YOU ARE! There is no one like you in all of God's Super Universe and there never will be again. You are so important to all of Creation that without you, even "God" would cease to exist. I know...incredible, huh? Well, it is true, and the most wonderful thing about it is .... God would not have it any other way! We are LOVED that much!
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Walking in the Garden of a Loving God
A small portion of Christian Andréason's near-death experience is now presented on: www.near-death.com

Once in a great while I stumble across someone's NDE testimony that I find to be uniquely outstanding and awesome. Christian Andréason (pronounced On-dray-son) and his NDE testimony is the latest one! For reasons that you will discover for yourself, I consider his experience as the most inspirational I've ever read. His testimony is filled with new insights - new "pieces" to fit into my own NDE cosmology puzzle.

It was on June 2nd of 1995, that Christian Andréason had his near-death experience. Because of an unanticipated drug interaction and overdose, Christian's blood pressure was caused to plummet while undergoing routine dental surgery. Once out of his body, Christian took an extensive tour of what he calls, "The Divine Realm" and he saw himself go before a great light he deeply believes to have been God. The experience not only changed the entire course of Christian's life, but also the direction of his music career. He immediately became more focused on all things spiritual; serving friends, loved ones and even those some might consider strangers in anyway possible.

Best known for being an award-winning - critically acclaimed, independent recording artist, Christian Andréason is a singer, songwriter and producer of inspirational music for his independent record label, Wonderboy Records. Since 1987 he has professionally recorded hundreds of songs and produced a total of 9 albums. Praised by celebrities, major press and even former United States Presidents, Christian's music and messages of love have so far reached millions of ears and eyes Internationally via Internet, television, stage, print and radio.

Betty Eadie and Christian

Interestingly enough, Christian is the writer/singer of the theme song entitled, "All The Time" used by fellow NDEer and long-time # 1 N.Y. Times Best Selling Author, Betty J. Eadie for her 2002 award winning television program, "Embraced by the Light" ... which featured Betty's famous book of the same name. Betty J. Eadie was the first to discover and publish some of Christian's NDE writing in several pages of the 1999 inspirational book, "The Ripple Effect." The two are great friends, as Betty has been a great source of inspiration to Christian for many years.
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Here are examples of several topics that he explains with simplicity and clarity for all of us.

[Christian Andreason.... chapter two.....
Are we alone in the Universe?

Oh my gosh! To this question, I can confidently tell you a big, fat, whopping ... NO!

We are but 'one' of trillions and trillions of existences out there. And I can also tell you that we are not anywhere near the center of the Universe, we are actually in the outskirts of it.

So Earth is not our home?

Only for a little while. Earth is actually one of many homes we will have known before our incarnation career is over. I like to think of Earth as the current living, breathing stage our Soul and physical human body (which you already know is temporary) is now existing on. Yet Heaven is made of pure, radiant Light that lasts forever.

Heaven could certainly be said to be our real home, however; as we spiritually mature we will find ourselves continuously moving upward to even higher dimensions in Heaven, and as this happens, a time will come when we will have reached a level that finds us once again reunited with the Creator of all Creation.

What about beings from other planets, do you think they visit here?

Yes I do. And I think those who have been permitted to cross over into our world have been doing so for a very long time now (for a very important purpose) as Divinely arranged by Heaven. Since my NDE, because of a few things I was shown, it is now my deep belief that some of the more phenomenal events depicted in the Old Testament (such as the Great flood of Noah, the parting of the Red Sea for Moses, the mass explosion of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc) are not only very true, but were moments in time which were orchestrated and performed by beings of a much higher order and intelligence than our ownwho may have volunteered their technology and understandings or even sent to help guide and shape a culture within humanity during a pressing time within its development and evolution.

Why do some claim to see these beings and some do not?
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Chapter 10 - Questions and Answers

The Issue of Sex
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https://near-death.com/christian-andreason-nde/

DennisTate · Oct 28, 2023

And now back to Andrew Corner's blog.......
he now gets into some really serious topics that are relevant for all of us today in 2023.

Andrew Corner.....
https://andrewcorner.substack.com/p...VP7CzhGCkKmh4je47hBdDE5Q6W8NIu56g0tKyShHhxWNQ

But some of them might not listen. Some of them might be too clever for their own good, and they might start to pick apart the simulation. Even taking the lessons and distort or pervert them in order to mess with others in the simulation, for their own selfish desires.

Or perhaps there were some “beings” from the first or second or who knows which versions of the original “trials” created along the way to find the worthy to join the original one in the eternal place, who unfortunately did not meet the criteria necessary to ascend into that eternity, that might be bitter with existence but that the original felt too guilty to snap out of existence, and so they were left in, not quite in the simulation of mulling around the dimensional edges looking for ways to corrupt the design so that the original one might not be able to have more worthy companions, or perhaps the “joy” of creating more bitter ones like them would be “reward” enough, and perhaps they would find ways to influence the simulation, and inspire the inhabitants to turn to the “unsavoury” ways, that might create unnecessary hurt and destruction within the simulation.

And perhaps they might meet them through “hacks” in the simulation, and try to help them “learn” what “it” is, before they were ready, so that they too might become “corrupted”, and perhaps even build enough ways to crack the code of the Simulation, and corrupt the entire project, and reject the simplest idea of all. That there was, ands is indeed, an “Intelligence”, that Loved them as they themselves, if they were properly oriented, would impart Love upon their own offspring as a mirror of the “Maker”, and that Maker created them in order to teach them, and to find meaning itself, and to give its offspring ways to find that meaning themselves that would be a kind of training program within the program.

I can’t help but think that Would be a good “God”.

Interestingly, this “Designer”, as I’ve attempted to describe it, would be doing it all for the right reasons, in my humble opinion, and I can’t really see any argument that this point of view, or perspective that I’ve been toying with is somehow less credible than the current state of debate when it comes to the question of “God”.

The Best argument for an “Intelligent Design” model, is known as the “fine tuning” of the Universe and it’s “laws” argument, but it’s not the only one, and in fact, it’s not the only one that suggests we, or more accurately the current “establishment” might not be 100% accurately explaining the argument from where the debate is currently at when it comes to Major issues on the Political Front, around the World right now. We can see signs of it everywhere.

It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about “evolutionary theory”, which requires that you buy the argument that a simple DNA model simply appeared out of the basic building blocks of the “Primordial ooze” when lightning struck, and somehow created the proper arrangement to turn inorganic compounds into organic that were “born” not only with the ability to metabolize and multiply, but that that same lightning strike also shocked all the necessary elements to go about creating the replication process, the “machines” like ribosomes and cellular membranes to name just two or the more known. These were NOT just sitting around, waiting to engage in the incredible act of producing Life from non Life.

In Fact, we have yet to learn the ability to create Life in a lab, even with all of our modern tools, no matter what you may have heard. And that also doesn’t explain the explosions in Life that happened in various periods of Earths History that look to me more like “software” updates with “new elements” introduced to the “platform” that get explained away by simply saying, “oh we’re pretty sure it just kinda happened…”.

Sure. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Mine is at least loosely described by books that stretch back almost as far as we can trace civilization, which too, seemed to simply pop up out of nowhere, with so many unanswered questions, unlike what we get continually told by those who stand to benefit from us accepting these explanations.

But there are those out there who Do in fact, see the Earth, and this Earthly “existence” as a kind of Prison, and that perspective Alone, is enough to corrupt hearts, and twist Souls into making statements so Palpably twisted, such as there is no “free will”, and to accept the premise that we are mere biological machines on this Earth.

A more nihilistic approach I personally cannot imagine.

Why? Because if that theory of “Evolution” is True, as we’re Told it is, by again, all those who get to exploit that relationship and the “Principles” that get built into it, allowing for mad schemes such as the 4IR reset agenda via the IoB (internet of bodies) and IoT (Internet of things), and the concept that we will all be Ruled, and I’m not making this stuff up, by a benevolent AI “governance” scheme, that IS, currently being formulated and pushed as the thing we simply must do to “protect the Planet”, by various actors within the WEF, the WHO, the UN, and the IPCC, along with other collaborators, and not ONE of them, thinks you have “free will”, and what’s more, they might even suggest you’re selfish if you were to make that argument. Perhaps even a domestic “terrorist”. Honestly, Who Talks like that??

They ALL see “Us”, as “data”, which is the new oil, but what “they” mean is we are the new “resource” for their data mining, and are actively trying to convert Us into full time surveillance “guinea pigs” with this “One health”, key part of the agenda, that is intimately tied with the “bio digital convergence” promoted by our “futurist” departments all over the developed World. And what does that suggest?

Here’s an excerpt:

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@wgabrie ..... I think that you will enjoy this discussion......
and as you can guess.....

I feel that I have got to introduce Andrew Corner to our buddy from this forum @AboveAlpha

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Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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Yes, this is quite the interesting discussion you've got going on here.

DennisTate · Dec 9, 2023

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Yes, this is quite the interesting discussion you've got going on here.
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Yes.... and I shall now attempt to raise the bar even higher.....

I saw Andrew again at work a day or two ago and I asked him if he had heard of near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley......

and specifically of Dannion's prediction that a computer genius.... would play out the role of a modern Antiochus Ephinaneus...... [PARDON MY SPELLING]....

... [it is rather appropriate that we get into this discussion during Chanukkah]!!!!

I speculated that what Dannion Brinkley had observed in his 1975 brush with death.....
were actual events in the most recent time line BUT.......

Dannion Brinkley ... by OBSERVING THE FUTURE..... OR A FUTURE.....
COULD ALTER THE NEXT FUTURE TIME LINE.....
BY HIS DECISIONS......
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED!!!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...te-probably-belong-to.613785/#post-1074464740

...... Dannion Brinkley:
BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)

https://lightstreamers.com/dannion-brinkley#4877520e-0405-4b0d-b8e5-fc9bb52b9d94
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DennisTate · Dec 9, 2023

Saved by the Light: The True Story of a Man Who Died Twice and the Profound Revelations He Received Paperback – Nov. 25 2008
by Dannion Brinkley (Author), Paul Perry (Author)

https://www.amazon.ca/Saved-Light-Profound-Revelations-Received/dp/0061662453

The full text of chapter five of Dannion Brinkley's book, Saved By the Light can be read here.....

Dannion Brinkley for Vice President under President Donald J. Trump?

?
Who would you like to see as V. P. if Trump comes back into political power?

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Mr. Dannion Brinkley
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DennisTate said: ↑

I began a facebook group entitled "Near Death Experiences Bring US Together" about a decade ago..... (and thankfully I had chosen several intelligent people to Admin the group along with me or it might have disappeared at the time that Zuckerberg got rid of me off his platform)???

Through this group I got to know many published near death experiencers and......
I actually asked near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley if he would be willing to turn me loose to begin a campaign to make Mr. Dannion Brinkley VICE PRESIDENT to serve America along with President Trump...... and Mr. Dannion Brinkley said that yes.... I could begin that initiative... and that I should "Have Fun!..... me and Trump..... !!!!!!" ... (or something very much like that... I actually copied and pasted Dannion's reply to political forum back around 2015 or 2016..... (I will try to find the link to that discussion later on but for now........

I have something in mind that I believe that Dannion will enjoy once some of our mutual friends forward this on to him!!!!!!

"I wrote the following back on August 4, 2020. Was I terribly off in my predictions from back then?

The Worgl Austria Great Depression Experiment and a real estate boom in rural America?

My belief is that we must turn local governments loose to do variations of the Worgl, Austria local money experiment again.

This can lead to a method of connecting people with their neighbours in each local area which can play a huge role in a boom in real estate prices in rural America and Canada.

Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

I believe that the economic aspect of this COVID 19 crisis is so serious that we need to resort to drastic measures to prevent the USA and Canadian economies from falling into another 1929.

I personally think that the most logical organizations to inspire to do part of this are
1. local municipal governments
2. churches
3. charitable organizations that are already attempting to help the poor such as Food Banks

Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?

by Francis and Lia Ayley .....
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https://near-death.com/near-death-experiences-and-prophetic-revelations/

Near-Death Experiences and Prophetic Revelations
BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 5, 2022

https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799277/m2/1/high_res_d/vol19-no4-233.pdf

DennisTate · Dec 9, 2023

The Howard Storm near death experience testimony is so amazing.....
and fits so well with everything that I have researched about the paranormal since the 1970's......
that I cannot imagine how former Atheist Howard Storm could possibly have made this all up.....

After the 58 minute mark in this video former Atheist Howard Storm talks about what he was shown about The Holocaust of the Nazi Era.....

Howard Storm Interview - STUNNING AND LIFE CHANGING NDE 2001

"I asked how God could let the Holocaust of World War II happen. We were transported to a railway station as a long train of freight cars was being unloaded of its human cargo. The guards were screaming and beating the people into submission. The people were Jewish men, women, and children. Exhausted from hunger and thirst, they were totally disoriented from the ordeal of being rounded up and sent on a long journey to an unknown destination. They believed that they were going to work camps, and that their submission to the brutality of the guards was the only way to survive.

We went to the area where the selection process was taking place and heard the guards talking about "the Angel Maker." We went to the place the guards were referring to as "the Angel Maker," which was a series of ovens. I saw piles of naked corpses being loaded into the ovens, and I began to cry. Jesus said to me, "These are the people God loves." Then he said, "Look up." Rising out of the smoke of the chimneys, I saw hundreds of people being met by thousands of angels taking them up into the sky. There was great joy in the faces of the people, and there appeared to be no trace of a memory of the horrendous suffering they had just endured. How ironic that the guards sarcastically called the ovens "the Angel Maker."

I asked how God could allow this to happen. They told me that this was not God's will. This was an abomination to God. God wants this never to happen again. This was the sacrifice of an innocent people to whom God had given the law to be an example, a light, to the rest of the world. This Holocaust was breaking God's heart. The anguish that Jesus was suffering at the slaughter of his people was too much for me to bear and I begged that we leave this place. I will never forget this: his anguish at this horror and what it represents. This was one of the low points in human history."

I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. God had intervened in the world many times before, but this time God was going to change the course of human events." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, page 42,43)
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http://www.politicalforum.com/index...many-christians-think.527227/#post-1068745898

Dr. Billy Graham correct that Love of G-d more wide than many Christians think.

DennisTate said: ↑

Dr. Billy Graham was correct... the love of G-d is more wide
than many Christians tend to imagine.

If near death experience accounts are a valid meeting with G-d,
(and I believe that they are), then Dr. Billy Graham's critics who
are angry over his belief that somebody can be saved even before they
accept Jesus as their Savior, is an example of people misunderstanding their scriptures.

Howard Storm Ph. D:

Billy Graham Denies Jesus Is The ONLY WAY To The Father
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IN OTHER WORDS..........IS MESSIAH YESHUA JESUS IN HIS RESURRECTED BODY AND FORM FREE TO SPEAK TO AND GUIDE RABBI ALON ANAVA..... AND TURN HIM INTO A JEWISH THEOLOGICAL CYRUS.............. AND THEN TAKE HIM INTO HEAVEN WHEN HIS LIFE IS OVER??????????????????????????

IS MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS FREE TO TAKE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCER DANNION BRINKLEY BY THE RIGHT HAND AND GUIDE HIM THROUGH LIFE....... EVEN IF DANNION DOESN'T FIT RIGHT IN IN THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE HE GREW UP??????????

www.AlonAnava.com/

About Rabbi Anava
Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!
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Rabbi Alon Anava's 2001 near death experience reminds me of Matthew chapter four on many levels... and what he has taught since his brush with death reminds me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven..... THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT!!!!!!!!!!

DennisTate · Dec 26, 2023

Andrew has just done an excellent sermon for December 24.....
and I believe that he really did hit this out of the park!

On this Sunday before Christmas....
I wanted to share a teeny tiny little sermon with you, You're Welcome
ANDREW CORNER
DEC 24

Is it Sunday? Because I Feel a Sermon coming on...

I mean I'm kidding and I'm Not, and I’m being a little cheeky because that’s just who I am, and, if we don’t find some time to Laugh at Clown World, it can be hard to find the Hope. So this is both a Little Humour to wet your whistle, and what I hope is a little wisdom.

I Think this is Worth Thinking about. I wrote it on my FB page, but I’m Hoping to get a few more eyeballs on it because they Censor the **** out of anything clever I say over there. As I pointed out to a fellow Truth Seeker this morning when thinking about how social media is currently operating, In my experience, the less Traffic you get, the Closer to the Target you Are.

Again, always Open to having my Ideas Challenged. So Challenge This, and I mean that.

The OP stated :

As it turns out the Age of Enlightenment was Actually the reintroduction of Mysticism.

Change my Mind.

I had another Good friend and Fellow Truth Seeker pipe in with:

fake magic

that’s the only kind there is.

untrue. But one would have to evolve to see and feel it… and if you have to think about it too much.. its gone

And now to the sermon. In response to the Idea that we're being attacked by Mysticism, and sorting out the difference between All Cults and what Jesus did:

here's what 'evolved'. Magic. And magic is Bullshit, and what I was thinking about recently is the miracles performed by Jesus.

You have to understand the time and place he came into, and why it was he did them. The World was completely rotten with 'Mystics' and other such polytheists and 'Prophets', and every one of them was some kind of hustler. Magicians.

People who had a trick or two to **** with the people of the time that could be easily swayed with ideas about 'gods' and sacrifices and this and that.

He came in and said, guys, cut it out, this is all just a test, be nice to one another, and I mean Everyone.

He ate and visited, not with the 'royalty' of the time, nor the other 'prophets' who were all trying to trick people into giving up something to them.

But he healed the sick, fed the Hungry, and associated with whores and others who were Lost.

He showed them what he could do. And they were head and shoulders about the magicians and grifters of the time. There's a Reason that it appealed to So Many people, and that reason is he was doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of all the other 'prophets' who were only ever really after 'PROFITS'.

And where are we, AGAIN, right now?

Dealing with new age practitioners of a new kind of 'magic', one that deals in viruses and climate catastrophes and AI 'gods' coming out of the computer, All of which are indecipherable to average people, all of which are being used to put us under a spell.

Wakey wakey. This is all a Lie to cover up the Truth.

****

Again, I write this stack to be Challenged. If you find anything I’m suggesting ‘triggering’, please, don’t hesitate to pipe in. I Welcome the Debate.

Merry Christmas to All

And God Bless
[Andrew Corner]
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Wow!!!!!!!

Well said my friend Andrew!!!!!!!!!

DennisTate · Dec 30, 2023

Hey Andrew.... what do you think of the basic concept of The Gilgul Cycle of Judaism?

Hey Andrew.... what do you think of the research done by Ian Stevenson Ph. D?

On that note........
what do you think about this theory regarding William Wallace?

ASSUMING THE VALIDITY OF THE "GILGUL CYCLE" OF JUDAISM..... AND THE DR. IAN STEVENSON RESEARCH........... COULD WILLIAM WALLACE HAVE BEEN KING DAVID REINCARNATED AS A ZERAITE JEW??????????

COULD THE THREE DAYS IN WHICH KING CHARLES'S ANCESTORS ...... AND MY ARISTOCRATIC ENGLISH ANCESTORS....... WHO WERE ENGLISH FROM NORTHERN IRELAND.......... TORTURED WILLIAM WALLACE TO DEATH..... HAVE BEEN THE FULFILLMENT OF HIS PSALM 22 EVENT????????

Evangelist John Ramirez is perfect for the role of "The Prince of the Tribe of Dan" that has been explained by Orthodox Jewish historian mr. Yair Davidiy......

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"Yes they should, but according to their law he is an adulterer...Is that okay? "
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King David was also an adulterer......

and a murderer of Uriah the Hittite.... the first husband of King Solomon's mom!!!!!

Recently I ran into writings by somebody who I noticed over twenty years ago........

I have a couple of questions in mind for Messianic Rabbi James Scott Trimm that I believe can be win, win, win, win, win, win ..... win for three hundred and thirty plus million Americans......

win, win, win, win for nine point four million Israelis........

win, win, win, win ... win for thirty eight million Canadians........

and win, win, win, win for all eight billion people on this third rock.........

Rabbi James Scott Trimm has a hobby of three dimensional chess........

I personally have never even played three dimensional chess but......

back in 1990 I helped Mr. L.. W...... to get good at chess and within three months he was the Grade five chess champion for Nova Scotia.......

by the March break of 1991 I took him to the Canadian national chess championships and he did win against the Grade five champion from Saskatchewan.......

which was one of the only other provinces in Canada with a population of merely one million.

Dennis Tate.....
.... Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, L5M0X1

December 30, 2023

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Shalom Rabbi Trimm:

Do you Sir take the article by Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian Mr. Yair Davidiy very seriously
that is on the topic of a predicted "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" or Messiah son of Joseph......
who will be anointed for warfare according to ancient Jewish apocalyptic writings???????

Rabbi James Trimm is the author of:

Reclaiming Yeshua for Judaism Paperback – December 30, 2010
by James Trimm (Author)

"Forget everything you have ever heard about ÒJesusÓ. The majority of it is simply false. His name was not Jesus, he was not born on December 25th, he was not the founder of Christianity, he did not wear a toga, have blue eyes, a goatee beard or blond hair. The historical ÒJesus of NazarethÓ has been hijacked by Gentiles, paganized, helenized and stripped of his Torah Observant Judaism. "

I believe that Rabbi Trimm will immediately grasp the potential that is obviously there in the idea of introducing nine point four million Israelis and many other Jews all over the world to the idea of
a potential "Moshiach ben Ephrayim - Yosef" who...... to at least some degree.....
may fit into a modern Yom Kippur event........

that.... .will rapidly cause nine point four million Israelis to grasp the idea of a Moshiach ben David .... a Messiah the Passover Lamb......
that is THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH MOSHIACH BEN EPHRAYIM - YOSEF IS BUILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rabbi Trimm... my apologies but everything that I do and everything that I write is flawed........

and I know that there are flies in the ointment in the way that I am approaching this but......

I believe that the Holy Spirit - the Ruach ha Kodesh will give you a brilliant and King Solomon like response to my flawed but....... none the less valid questions!!!!

Shalom.

Dennis Tate

https://
britam.
org/messiah.html

MOSHIACH BEN YOSEPH
by Yair Davidiy

The Two Messiahs
<<Our Sacred Sages had a tradition that in the beginning [of the End Times] there would arise a Messiah [i.e. Anointed Saviour] from the house of Joseph who will reign over the Ten Tribes. He will wage wars and all of Israel will be gathered together under his banner. [This will continue] until later on, a descendant of David will appear and he will reign over them....
<<A transformation will take place. The Ten Tribes and the stick of Joseph will draw themselves closer unto the stick of Judah, and this too, will be through the agency of a Prophet and by miracles>>.
The Commentary of "Malbim" on Ezekiel 37:15

The story of Joseph in the Bible is an historical account of what really did happen to Joseph, the ancestor of people in Britain and America, as well as other areas. The story of Joseph, in addition to being an historical account of what happened to a particular person named Joseph, is also symbolic of what will happen to his descendants. In Rabbinical tradition we have the concept of the “Mashiach ben Yoseph” (Messiah, son of Joseph), who will be a DESCENDANT OF JOSEPH. “Mashiach ben Yoseph” also represents the actions of the descendants of Joseph in the Last Days and the times leading up to these last days. In Jewish tradition there will be two Messiahs: “Mashiach ben Yoseph” (Messiah, son of Joseph), and “Mashiach ben David” (Messiah, son of David).

The Two Messiahs

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Since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 the USA has often helped protect the State of Israel from destruction. The USA has not however really helped Israel expand her borders. On the contrary the USA has often forced Israel to give up territories it had liberated and to constrict her borders, but maybe that will change. Maybe the USA and Britain will help Israel expand her borders in the future as the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is supposed to do. Ingathers the Exiles “Kol HaTor” says [2.40] “His [i.e. Joseph’s] bow abode in strength” (Genesis 49;24). This should be an important principle for us. We have to stand obstinately strong in the holy work of gathering in the exiles which is the task of the first redeemer [i.e. of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]. Purifies the Land of Israel “Kol HaTor” says [2.41] “And Joseph was governor over the land” (Genesis 42;6). This means he will overcome all the forces of impurity. This is one of the great tasks of the First Redeemer [of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH]: to extirpate the spirit of impurity from the country by means of settling the Holy Land. When the Holy Land is not settled [with Israelites] a spirit of impurity settles over it. [When the Holy Land is settled with Israelites the Land becomes pure]. Joshua ben Nun Was a Forerunner “Kol HaTor” says [2.44]

The First Redeemer [MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH] fights against Amalek with total warfare…[he fights against the forces of anti-Semitism]. This was the task of Joshua ben Nun who was [a forerunner and ancestor of] the Messiah Son of Joseph. Aroused by Elijah “Kol HaTor” says [2.71] “Behold I will send you my prophet Elijah…and he will return the hearts of the fathers to their sons” (Malachi 4). One of the tasks of Elijah is to arouse the spirit of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment:

[Malachi 4:5] BEHOLD, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD: [Malachi 4:6] AND HE SHALL TURN THE HEART OF THE FATHERS TO THE CHILDREN, AND THE HEART OF THE CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS, LEST I COME AND SMITE THE EARTH WITH A CURSE.

We have noted elsewhere that one of the meanings of the verse in Malchi 4: of returning the hearts of the fathers to their sons, and the heart of the children to their fathers” is to make people aware of their Israelite Tribal Identity, to let people who are descended from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel know who they are and who their tribal forefathers most likely were. This is what Brit-Am is doing. Help brit-Am. If you can help Brit-Am please do so. Causes Non-Israelite Nations to Repent “Kol HaTor” says [2.75] The Messiah Son of Joseph arouses not only Israel but also the Peoples of the World to Repent. Jonah the Prophet had the aspect of MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in his generation. His task is, “to rebuke many nations” (Isaiah 2). Turns Defeat Into Victory “Kol HaTor” says [2.91] The characteristic of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is that out of tribulation he brings salvation. The Heavenly Ladder “Kol HaTor” says [2.97] A ladder on the ground and its head reaching to heaven (Genesis 2. This is an aspect of Joseph as is known. What happened to Jacob happened to Joseph. All of his deeds were an arousal from below with an accompanying assistance from heaven. Joseph was the son of Jacob and Rachel and had the characteristics of both Jacob and Rachel. Ingathers Exiles, Rebuilds Jerusalem, Settles the Wilderness “Kol HaTor” says [2.117] The rulership of Joseph overcomes all impurity.

The task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is to remove the spirit of impurity from the Land through the ingathering of exiles, rebuilding Jerusalem, and the planting of the wilderness. Ransoming Captives “Kol HaTor” says [2.118] “And the ransomed of the LORD shall return and come to Zion” (Isaiah 35;10): The task of ransoming captives belongs to the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH who performs it by ingathering the Exiles…The Major Ingathering of the Exiles cannot be less than 600,000…They will come with rejoicing and happiness. Comment: “Kol HaTor” says The Major Ingathering of Exiles cannot be less than 600,000. 600,000 was taken to be a key number. It is interesting to note that when Israel declared its Independence in 1948 the total Jewish population in the Land at that time was a bit more than 600,000 which was the key number mentioned by “Kol HaTor” about two hundred years beforehand. Reveals Secrets of the Torah “Kol HaTor” says [122] “And Pharoah called Joseph’s name Zaphenat Paneah” [i.e. Uncover of Secrets] (Genesis 41;45). One of the tasks of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH in each generation is to reveal the secrets of the Torah. Horns of a Unicorn “Kol HaTor” says [131] “His horns are the horns of a unicorn with which he strikes the peoples” (Deuteronomy 33). The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. Comment: The horns of a unicorn are linked with the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. A unicorn is part of the symbol of Britain. Two unicorns appear on the Coat of Arms of Scotland. Many descendants of Joseph from Scotland migrated to North America. The main task of the MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH is the everlasting war against Amalek. “Amalek” represents the forces of Anti-Semitism.

The fact is that Anti-Semites, as well as hating the Jews, are usually also the enemies of the British or the Americans. Even those people who hate Jews among the British and Americans are usually found after examination to hold doctrines and to do things that make them in effect the enemies of Britain and America.
The time has come for us all to understand that we are one people. Our enemies know this and so should we.
Dan Assists “Kol HaTor” says [150] The Prince of Dan will assist MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH. Comment: The prince of Dan represents the people of Dan. The descendants of Dan are to be found today mainly amongst the people of Denmark and amongst descendants of the Irish overseas. We Must Do Our Utmost “Kol HaTor” says [p.453] “We have to do our utmost for the sake of the union of the two Messiahs, MESSIAH SON OF JOSEPH and MESSIAH SON OF DAVID, the stick of Joseph and the stick of Judah [that Ezekiel described as uniting]." [
MOSHIACH BEN YOSEPH
by Yair Davidiy

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...the-middle-east.614114/page-3#post-1074588018
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DennisTate · Jan 13, 2024

I myself have similar goals to Andrew.....
I am trying to get people to THINK OUTSIDE OF THE LITTLE BOX THAT BIGMEDIA

... and BigBanking... and BigOil..... and BigGovernment.... and BigPharma.... and BigCorporations seem to be attempting to
shove people into.......

https://andrewcorner.substack.com/p...itle&isFreemail=true&r=zhnc9&utm_medium=email

The Idea of an ID Seems to Necessitate Finitude
Though it's Still Well Beyond Human Understanding

ANDREW CORNER
2024-01-10
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Aliens don’t exist.

I wrote a piece trying to puzzle that one out in a cheeky sort of fashion just to try and get people Thinking Outside of their Boxes.

Honestly That is All I’m Ever Trying to Do.

When your Mind is stuck in the Box, Otherwise known as the ‘Matrix’, you can’t Properly Conceptualize the Danger that might or might not be Lurking Outside the Box. I’m in the middle of writing a much longer piece about that, but I wanted to get this Thought down before I have to run out this Morning.

The Point is it’s always occurred to me that simply stating there Must Be a Creator is an Unanswered Question, meaning that still doesn’t Really Resolve the Chicken and the Egg Problem. It doesn’t solve the ‘alien’ Problem, but the Reason it Doesn’t Solve it, is Because we Cannot Know the Intention of the Creator.

Everything has Limitations, so the Creator Must have One Too. But it’s Problem is Much Different than Ours, Obviously, but the Has to be a Point to it All, is this is what I’m Trying to Visualize to People. So to Avoid the Risk of Infinite Regression, I’m going to try and Keep This Short and Sweet.

It’s Possible there is One ‘alien’, and That Alien is the ID (intelligent Designer) and that means I could be wrong, but not in the way that most people think about it.

In Fact it Opens the Door to the Possibility There’s more Outside our Collective Reality. More ‘aliens’, But Here’s Why I Think that is Wrong.

I’ve now Repeatedly Made the Statement “It’s a ‘Simulation’”, run by an incredibly advanced ID, but to add in this infinite complexity would be counterproductive to the Test, because it would Could Never ‘End’.

Perhaps something I haven't considered Enough is what that means about the ID.

Regardless, I don't think we should be trying to Unmake the Simulation just to see what happens, because that would be the Ultimate Sociopathy. Seriously, how can it be that some people feel they should have the right to undo someone else's Existence, just to see whether or not their hypothesis bears fruit?

If you Think I’m just talking out of my butt, Listen to This. Seriously, Listen. If you’re short on Time as we All Are These Days, skip ahead to around the 1 hour 10 minute mark. Understand who these Two Are, and What it Is they’re Saying about our Reality.

They Are Openly Telling us What They Think. They Think We’re in a Simulation (agree), and they Think once their efforts to Create an AGI become Realized, ‘it’ Will Provide new ways to Think about Physics.

Oh, and they Hope it’s all going to be for the Best, but who know Really.

In Other Words, they are Completely Cavalier about Potentially unmaking our Reality.

This Morning I asked DallE to Conceptualize this Idea. I Prompted the Following:

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I see the universe as a creation of an intelligent designer, or ID, and the only Real Question we as the Human race are trying to solve for right now is what that ID might actually be, and that is what is driving the race to "AGI", but there's one question after the question, which is where did the ID come from?

DALL·E

Your perspective on the universe being the creation of an intelligent designer (ID) and the quest to understand this entity as a driving force behind the pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is a fascinating philosophical viewpoint. It intertwines the realms of metaphysics, theology, and advanced technology.

The question "Where did the ID come from?" delves into one of the most profound and enduring mysteries of human thought. This inquiry transcends the boundaries of science, philosophy, and religion, inviting diverse interpretations based on different belief systems and theoretical frameworks.

Theological Perspective: Many religious traditions propose that an intelligent designer is an uncaused, eternal entity. In these views, the ID is often seen as a fundamental aspect of existence, not requiring a creator itself.

Scientific Perspective: From a scientific standpoint, the question could lead to a discussion on the origins of the universe and the principles that govern it. Theories like the Big Bang offer explanations for the physical universe's beginning, but they don't typically address metaphysical questions about intelligent designers.

Philosophical Perspective: Philosophically, this question can be seen as part of the larger query about the nature of existence and the origins of consciousness and intelligence. Some philosophical views might suggest that trying to understand the origin of an ID is an infinite regress (a chain of events with no beginning).

Technological Perspective: In the context of AGI, the question might be reframed: if humans succeed in creating AGI, does that make humanity the 'intelligent designer' of that AGI? And then, does the AGI's quest to understand its creator mirror humanity's quest to understand its own origins?

Ultimately, the question of the origin of an intelligent designer is likely to remain one of the great mysteries, open to interpretation and speculation across various disciplines. It's a question that not only explores the origins of existence but also the limits of human understanding and the nature of knowledge itself.

You

depict a conceptualized version of the ID in its own dimension trying to hold together the simulation, which, if properly conceptualized, must indeed have an ending, because the idea of having a universe that goes on forever, even by an ID with extraordinary powers over our Human dimensional reality, must be in a sense limited, because adding in the complexity of aliens means it must be infinite, but why then run the simulation? It would make no sense to run a simulation unless it had a point, and it feels as though Humanity, once it walks through that door into the possibility of being able to control the construct, or matrix, or simulation, must undo it, or reset it, because how can one analyze the 'results' of a test without in some way limiting it? Introducing infinite complexity would destroy the ability to make any solid Reality. It would come undone at the seems. And there's no Human on the Planet capable of wielding that power. Our egos are too fragile. We would just want more and more, undoing the possibility of Loving the Place we are, stretching the capabilities of the ID to control the simulation and keep it from self destructing before it busts the limits of Creation.

DALL·E

Here are two conceptualized images of the Intelligent Designer (ID) in its own dimension, struggling to maintain the integrity of a complex simulation. These visuals represent the tension and challenge of managing a simulated reality that is intricate and potentially unraveling.

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Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - to Christians and Jews and ..... Issa the Prophet to Muslims.....
stated that a "great falling away" must happen.

I believe that He meant that this would happen within the Messianic Jewish Movement that was centred at Jerusalem at least until 135 C. E. that was led by many of the leading
disciples.... and their children.... and their children's children.

But.... "the Great Falling Away" is also relevant to all Orthodox and Chassidic Jews and all official synagogues in all the earth.....

there was a teacher who became popular within Judaism a few centuries ago.......

who basically told the wealthiest Jews that they were free to indulge their darkest fantasies.............

much like probably happened with Sir Henry Tate.... .whose Art Collection eventually became The Tate Gallery.........

The wealthiest people of all have been asking themselves questions..... for at minimum the past five if not six or seven millennia......

and one part of what has emerged has been explained brilliantly by former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava......

.... Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power? - Part 1

I woke up this morning feeling that I personally feel "SENT" TO THIS ERUV RAV......
TO BILL GATES....
AND TO PRESIDENT ABBAS OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY......
because I volunteered for something back in 1990 that I could not possibly just make up......
.... I would have to be an amazingly intelligent and creative person to just come up with this out of my own head......

.... for example..... after I wrote to my future third wife she was somehow told by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that I would be her second husband....

and that she should fast and pray for me for thirty five days......

and she did it!!!!!!!!

For three days per week for four weeks my wife drank only fruit juice.....
and Jesus would wake her up each morning and force her to pray for me......
up in Nova Scotia while she was in Quito, Ecuador......

and then for the fifth week... seven days in a row only fruit juice.... and my wife continued to do a forty hour per week.... or more.....
job......
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Yesterday I had one of the strangest experiences of my sixty four years.....

I am doing an online Theology Course by near death experiencer Kevin Zadai Th. D. entitled.....

"Divine Delay" Lesson one.......

and while I did the course I listened to some Worship Music that Dr. Zadai and his team had done......

I am actually listening to some of their worship in the background right now.....

Warrior Notes: LIVE Worship & Prophetic Prayer -Kevin Zadai

What happened to me yesterday was a lot like The Life Review that near death experiencers have...... I was able to look back at my life and I was shown that I had MISSED opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to be blessed by Jesus and led up to higher and higher levels.......

... but my carnality and greed and lust and my listening to what is probably a Familiar Spirit...... diverted me in the wrong direction time after time after time.......

Sabbatai Zevi

I believe that a high percentage of the wealthiest Jews on earth REJECTED THE TEACHINGS OF RABBI NACHMAN OF BRESLOV..... whose grandfather the Baal Shem Tov play the role of a John the Baptist sort of person for him.......
.... but generally wealthy Jews chose to listen to Mr. Sabbatai Zevi...... and rejected the off the scale brilliant Rabbi Nachman of Breslov..........

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov ...

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-under-our-land.534657/page-3#post-1074608953

I have in mind a friendly challenge to The Dr. Jesse Duplantis that
I believe can set in motion a series of events that will lead to the fulfillment of a prediction by Dr. Cindy Jacob from back in 2018...........

.......

My Testimony of Heaven

Cindy Jacobs - Word for Canada, Nov. 2, 2018

I have in mind a reality film series....
starring Dr. Jesse Duplantis as himself...........

and I walk up to him and we do a Roman handshake.......

like my online friend Johnny BlueStar did with Jesus.....
in something like a near death experience......

and I ask Dr. Jesse if he will defend his "son" Kevin from me.......

because the scariest thing that I have ever faced is between my own ears........

I never really lose a debate.......

and my secret is that I am not actually trying to win debates......

my goal is to introduce new information......

and new theories on how to address HUGE PROBLEMS.........

The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East!

In my opinion... a Dr. Jesse Duplantis Dollar and - or a Dr. Jesse Duplantis HOUR......
two alternative currency notes....... and databases.......

could play a critical role in fulfilling what was shown to Dr. Jesse's son Kevin.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...bt-of-the-usa-be-paid-off-in-one-year.580877/
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WillReadmore · Jan 13, 2024

I see no correlation between number of times one dies and reliability as a prophet.

The idea that dying makes one wiser is ridiculous. Dying involves that failure of one's brain.

It's not surprising that a failing brain, getting static from failing body parts would give fabulous hallucinations.

But, the idea that they are to be CHOSEN VS. REALITY? Good LORD!

Besides, if there IS a god that wants to tell something to a human, why would he wait for the human to DIE??

DennisTate · Jan 13, 2024

WillReadmore said: ↑

I see no correlation between number of times one dies and reliability as a prophet.

The idea that dying makes one wiser is ridiculous. Dying involves that failure of one's brain.

It's not surprising that a failing brain, getting static from failing body parts would give fabulous hallucinations.

But, the idea that they are to be CHOSEN VS. REALITY? Good LORD!

Besides, if there IS a god that wants to tell something to a human, why would he wait for the human to DIE??
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Tell that to the staff at Psychology Today .com

Their article goes into detail on many ways that a near death experience can increase certain mental abilities and aptitudes......

Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200910/bright-lights-big-mystery?page=4

For Sappington and others, the issue is not whether the person is actually meeting God, but why NDErs routinely seem better adjusted, more at peace and content with themselves and the world after their experience. Disregarding, for the time being at least, how they got that way, and focusing on the changes themselves, psychologists would like to borrow this newfound sense of well-being and utilize it in therapy.
Reports are highly consistent and common: "I understand things so much more" and "My senses all seem heightened." Subjects claim "sudden knowledge and comprehension of complex mathematical theorems." Psychologist Ring has identified a consistent set of value and belief changes. They include:
a greater appreciation for life
o higher self-esteem
o greater compassion for others
o a heightened sense of purpose and self-understanding
o desire to learn
o elevated spirituality
o greater ecological sensitivity and planetary concern
o a feeling of being more intuitive, sometimes psychic.
o He also observes "psychophysical changes," including:
o increased physical sensitivity
o diminished tolerance to light, alcohol, and drugs
o a feeling that their brains have been "altered" to encompass more
o a feeling that they are now using their "whole brain" rather than just a small part.
NDErs undergo radical changes in personality, and their,significant others--spouses, friends, relatives--confirm these changes, reports Bruce Greyson, M.D., clinical psychiatrist and associate professor at the University of Connecticut. Like Sappington, he is concerned with what can be learned from such new outlooks on life." (Psychology Today, article Bright lights, big mystery, by James Mauro, published on July 01, 1992)
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There actually is a discussion going on this from a few years ago.......

Will near death experience accounts transform psychiatry and psychology?

My guess is that our Creator might wait until we die......
partly due to the Covenant that seems to have been made with all humans.... to Review Our Lives with us..... when we die...... that "Covenant" is in the Roman Catholic Bible if I remember correctly.......

https://www.drbo.org/chapter/30006.htm

"6 For my angel is with you: And I myself will demand an account of your souls. 7 For their tongue that is polished by the craftsman, and themselves laid over with gold and silver, are false things, and they cannot speak. 8 And as if it were for a maiden that loveth to go gay: so do they take gold and make them up. 9 Their gods have golden crowns upon their heads: whereof the priests secretly convey away from them gold, and silver, and bestow it on themselves. 10 Yea and they give thereof to prostitutes, and they dress out harlots: and again when they receive it of the harlots, they adorn their gods." [Baruch 6:6]

Please notice that the word "you" is word number six... in Baruch six verse six???????????????

WillReadmore · Jan 13, 2024

DennisTate said: ↑

Tell that to the staff at Psychology Today .com

Their article goes into detail on many ways that a near death experience can increase certain mental abilities and aptitudes......

Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200910/bright-lights-big-mystery?page=4

There actually is a discussion going on this from a few years ago.......

Will near death experience accounts transform psychiatry and psychology?
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This doesn't address the question of whether dying gives one special information concerning the future or the universe.

I'm very sure that coming back from "death" (however defined) could change a person's outlook in the ways that your cite identifies.

In fact, I don't believe that coming back from "death" is required for that. People have had their view of life changed by events that are seriously life threatening, but didn't actually happen. I'm thinking of people who have survived parachute failures, war, airplane crashes, and other such events.

But, these do not confer special information on the universe, etc.

Conservative Democrat · Jan 15, 2024

I suffer from tinnitus. That is chronic ear ringing. The way it works is that when nerves in the inner ear are damaged or destroyed the brain expects to get messages from them. When it does not, it populates the absence with irritating noise.

Tinnitus is unintelligent design. There is no reason for the brain to be doing this. At no time in human evolution did it serve a purpose.

DennisTate · Feb 24, 2024

Conservative Democrat said: ↑

I suffer from tinnitus. That is chronic ear ringing. The way it works is that when nerves in the inner ear are damaged or destroyed the brain expects to get messages from them. When it does not, it populates the absence with irritating noise.

Tinnitus is unintelligent design. There is no reason for the brain to be doing this. At no time in human evolution did it serve a purpose.
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Unless.....
Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan felt that an annoying ringing in our ears could make it more and more and more difficult for us to hear The Holy Spirit whispering to us...... like the still small voice that the Prophet Elijah heard??????

You know, anyone can feel a sense of orchestration if they’re being Truthful.
And it’s bigger than Humans could ever maestro." [Andrew Corner]
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Back in 1988 when I was twenty nine.... I thought that I had the Jewish and Christian scriptures and prophecies quite well figured out and I could tell you what I thought would likely happen over the coming ten... twenty.... thirty or more years but guess what......... ESSENTIALLY NOTHING THAT I THOUGHT THAT I KNEW TURNED OUT TO BE CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! I now know that I know essentially zero about how The Being of Light of near death experience fame will work out events in the world....... or in my life............ but I have to admit that what has happened over these past thirty six years is vastly more positive than I could have even began to imagine back when I was twenty nine!!!!!!!

What near death experiencer Kevin Zadai spoke about the years 2020 to 2031 is vastly better than I could have done.........

http://kevinzadai.com/videos/

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