The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East!

DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

Any problem that we can blame on ourselves.......
or even see how even ten to twenty percent of the problems is at least significantly our fault......
then we have the power as well as the responsibility to attempt to the best of our ability to address that problem.

On the other hand... if we blame a problem one hundred percent.... or above ninety percent on somebody else.....
we are essentially throwing away our power and responsibility to solve .... or even significantly effectively address that problem.

I have already explained here on political forum how perhaps ninety nine point nine, nine, nine percent of Modern World Problems might perhaps be related to at least one of my possible past lives.........
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The possibility of past lives relates to the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism as well as to the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.

I am of the belief that the residents of the Canadian province of Alberta are in a position to play a massive role in setting motion a series of events that could be compared to a game of chess with EIGHT BILLION Infinitely Valuable.... and Unlimited Movement Variables.......
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and there is a shocking IMAGE that will get many intelligent people thinking about all of this.....

Proposed Republic of Western Canada and Unified Field Theory of M.W.P.

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M. W. P. = Modern World Problems

When I first saw the following image about a week ago I was somewhat shocked......
but I also began to think how perhaps the proposed Republic of Western Canada can fit into
a number of really serious problems confronting the USA first and foremost, but certainly Canada and the whole world will be greatly affected by what sure looks to me like an impending financial crisis that could turn out to be far worse than what happened in 2008 if it is not handled with wisdom and intelligence?

©by Dennis Patrick Tate 2018

I want to keep the following proposal for a series of reality plus semi-reality science fiction films somewhat within Canada's "conservative movement" so my idea is to sell non-exclusive use of this general idea to several political parties, (and all of the membership in those parties), for one dollar..... and then attempt to write up various concepts on how perhaps that right leaning political party could use this general idea to address problems Canadians are facing in 2019 by focusing on the possibility of altering an event from our history through what some Theoretical Physicists term Multiverse Theory. I believe that Canadian political leaders should learn from the example of Mr. Maxime Bernier who in one thirteen hour marathon raised one hundred and fifty three thousand dollars for local food banks within his riding.

I feel that one of the best ways for the Alberta Independence Party to accomplish the delay and delay and delay and delay of their goal of separation from Canada / Sovereignty Association with Canada is to make people aware of an injustice that took place in Newfoundland - Labrador back in 1974:

Should P. M. Justin Trudeau apologize for what his dad back in 1974 and....

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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

I have already explained how Brigham Young University in Jerusalem is in a position to get the world away from the off the scale moronic Carbon Tax plan as explained by Al Gore!

Brigham Young University in Jerusalem and peace in the Middle East

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In my opinion Latter day Saints, specifically the students and faculty at Brigham Young University in Jerusalem are in a position to bring a massive shift to the entire Middle East...... and divert the economy of the Middle East away from warfare and in a direction that will be win - win - win - win - win - win - win for Israel, Jordan, The Palestinians, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and all Middle Eastern nations........

I believe that Latter day Saints will catch onto how most of us Christians have refused to obey this admonition from Jesus.....

"Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver theeto the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, andthou be cast into prison." (Matthew 5:25)

This tendency to agree with our adversaries can begin with agreement on one topic... .one subject that we can find common ground on.... .but then Jesus can help that agreement to increase and increase and increase......

Here is the ancient Islamic prediction that I feel Latter day Saints WILL BE WILLING TO AGREE WITH and I believe that research on the advantages to this will happen from B.Y.U. in Jerusalem......

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

New Mexico biologist and Coach Carl Cantrell has written this up in a manner that can help Christians, Jews and Muslims to take a whole new look at the wisdom hidden in Isaiah chapter thirty five.
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New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell.....

"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect

We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).
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it has been speculated that Latter day Saints could easily come up with ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS to invest in any plan that they felt was like a metaphorical Pearl of Great Price!!!!!!

DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

I believe that Atheists teaching Muslims how to approach Jewish scholars and mystics is a solid ten to twenty percent of the reason behind the lack of Shalom in the Middle East.

Russia and its influence on Mideast terrorism...

According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”

1973 - Soviet statements and preparations for an attack against Israel led the Pentagon to order U.S. nuclear forces to the highest state of peacetime readiness. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the 82nd Airborne Division to prepare to head to the Middle East, and additional U.S. naval forces -- including American aircraft carriers -- moved into the Mediterranean, all out of a real and rising concern that the Soviets were about to make an unprecedented military move against Israel.

1982 - Israeli forces battling PLO terrorists in southern Lebanon unexpectedly uncovered a secret but massive cache of Soviet weaponry in deep underground cellars and tunnels. The storehouses contained some 4,000 tons of ammunition, 144 armored vehicles and tanks, 12,500 pieces of small arms, and 515 heavy weapons. Then-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin said that the Russians had prepositioned enough weapons to "equip not five brigades, but five or six [Soviet] divisions," adding that "we shall need literally thousands of trucks to evacuate these weapons from Lebanon."

June, 1982 - Russia organizes international terrorist conference: In June of 1982, two hundred forty organizations of eighty countries met in Tripoli for the International Conference of the World Center Resistance to Imperialism, Zionism, Racism, Reaction, and Fascism. The meeting was organized by the Soviet Union and Colonel Qaddafi and resulted in the forming of a committee ultimately consisting of Libya, Cuba, Iran, Syria, and North Korea. Their goal was the establishment of international terrorist training programs to prepare their revolutionaries for the battle against the oppressors, primarily the United States. Professional military personnel were recruited, including experts in all types of modern combat and sabotage, many of them trained in the Soviet Union. the faculty at Manzareih included translators, commandos from North Korea, security experts from Syria, veteran Palestinian terrorists, advisers from Libya, KGB officers fluent in Farsi (the Iranian language), and radical experts from movements all over the world. By 1985 there we as many as eighteen functioning training facilities in Iran training thousands of terrorists. There were special camps for women and suicide fighters as well as the general three-to-six month training sessions for regular recruits. The Iranians even turned airports into academies.... With camps established all over the Middle East and Castro's Cuba clearly destined to be the training capital of the Western hemisphere, the international terrorist machine was in motion. (John Pynchon Holms, Terrorism: Today's Biggest Threat to Freedom, pp. 164-165)

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I believe that IGNORANCE of the testimony of near death experiencers who have committed terrorist acts is another major reason for the lack of Shalom in the Middle East.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children." [Hosea 4:6]

Three time near death experiencer sees the souls of the September 11, 2001 victims....

Three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater was shown some pretty amazing things that happened in the higher invisible dimensions of space and time in the hours after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack. You can google her name and find it but I will try to find it again also.....

P. M. H. Atwater....

" INTRODUCTION
I was there, at least in spirit form, as a witness to what happened during the
attack on America, September 11, 2001. I was doing what I could to help the souls of the dead when the second plane hit. What I witnessed is contained in this small offering as my way of sharing, of adding to the voices across our fair planet who wish somehow to speak up and let others know how "9-11" affected them.
The first version of a book manuscript I had been working on about death
and dying was sitting on the desk of a New York City publisher when the attack occurred. As fate would have it, not only was I in attendance via spirit, but a physical expression of my soul was there as well in the way of the manuscript. And of all subjects, a book about death. I flew up to the City several months later, and have been there on numerous occasions since. My husband and I live two hours from
the Pentagon and were overwhelmed by telephone and e-mail outages and difficulty with mail service for over a month afterward. Many late charges on bills had to
be forgiven as we simply never received the notice of payment due in our mail.
I rewrote the book on death and dying and included in it what I had witness-
ed in spirit form while on the "inner planes" over New York City. Publishers dropped the revision like a "hot potato," as did my then-agent. I was told that the added material would date the book (probably correct), and that the public was not ready
for what I had to say (incorrect). The people of this great nation are more than ready
to hear my sharing, and are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what "rings" true and what doesn't. I lost an agent over this issue, and had to redo the book a
third time. It was finally published as “We Live Forever: The Real Truth About Death.” What was previously censored, though, appears only here - with
enough interpretive material to give it some sense of context and meaning.
Ever since I died three times in 1977, each time having a near-death experi-
ence and later becoming a researcher of near-death states, my books and writings have been devoted for the most part to research findings. I'm still the objective re- searcher I always was; but, from now on, you'll be hearing more and more about the

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subjective side of my life in that part of me open to the spirit realms, and to the grandeur of the soul.
Thank you for your kindness and your caring. PMH

http://pmhatwater.hypermart.net/resources/PDFs/911.pdf

THE CHALLENGE OF SEPTEMBER 11 P. M. H. Atwater http://www.pmhatwater.com

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mission of mercy and compassion, that had enabled the souls who were part of this drama, all of them, to make the transition from living in an earthly body to existing “elsewhere” faster than what is typical. The souls of the dead no longer needed emergency assistance, so I turned my attention to those still embodied who hurt or were injured to do what I could for them.

I say “elsewhere” because I am not certain what became of some who were
involved, and here’s why. The day before, while I hovered as a spirit at Ground Zero and wit- nessed the second plane hit and the aftermath, I had seen close up the
faces of three of the terrorists in that plane, as well as a few images of what was
going through their minds. One of them was in the cockpit of the plane, jaw locked,
eyes firm and determined. He acted more like a robot than a human being and
expressed no feelings. The two others were just outside the cockpit doorway.
The younger of the two was in a state of utter disbelief as fire leapt toward
him. He died screaming, “They lied to me.” (I heard him in English although what
he spoke sounded Arabic to me and with a different word phrasing.)
The third man expected to die, and was convinced that he would ascend into
a beautiful paradise upon his death. He welcomed the fireball with open arms, until
the “heaven” of his expected reward turned out to be a nightmare. He, too, had
believed a lie.

Of the two, one had been deceived by men he trusted, the other by his faith. Both lost their bodies. Did they also lose their souls?

I cannot speak as readily of the politics that was embedded in September’s
attack (I make that attempt in my article “Special Report” which is on my website), but I can talk about death itself, the soul, and the life that continues to exist in another form in another place after the physical body ceases to function. This “elsewhere” is familiar to me. It is a territory I have often visited and know well. Most of us are frightened by what we do not understand. The best way to
make peace with such fear is to learn as much as we can about what makes us fearful. By confronting the unimaginable horror of 9-11, we free ourselves to seek new answers to the greatest mystery of all. . . death.
Belief will not help us here, vision will." {Dr. P. M. H. Atwater].

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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

Now here is where I admit to the possibility of a possible past life that can be linked to ninety nine point nine, nine, nine percent of Modern World Problems!

This possible past life could also be linked to a modern Yom Kippur event and some sort of volunteer Yom Kippur goat????!

Chapter 69

"Twelfth apparition of Satan to Adam and Eve, while Adam was praying over the offering on the altar; when Satan beat him.

1 Then Satan, the hater of all good, envious of Adam and of his offering through which he found favor with God, hastened and took a sharp stone from among the sharp iron stones; appeared in the form of a man, and went and stood by Adam and Eve. 2 Adam was then offering on the altar, and had begun to pray, with his hands spread before God. 3 Then Satan hastened with the sharp iron stone he had with him, and with it pierced Adam on the right side, from which flowed blood and water, then Adam fell on the altar like a corpse. And Satan fled. 4 Then Eve came, and took Adam and placed him below the altar. And there she stayed, crying over him; while a stream of blood flowed from Adam's side over his offering. 5 But God looked at the death of Adam. He then sent His Word, and raised him up and said to him, "Fulfill your offering, for indeed, Adam, it is worth much, and there is no shortcoming in it." (The Book of Adam and Eve)
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http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-elijah-needed.499830/page-3#post-1067329856

Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....

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But she is my great, great, great, great .... granddaughter from one or more of my probable
past lives....... .and like the fallen son of G-d Azazel........
I am confident that the words of Rabbi Nachman will eventually be fulfilled in her
life.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov has given teachings that set the stage for the Jewish people to
forgive their great, great, great...... gandfather Adam.......
for being deceived... .and getting them into so much trouble.......

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

I believe it was in 1994 when I first noticed a possible connection between myself and
the patriarch Adam..............
I have zero memories of any past life..... .but I do have a mole
that could be a hint.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

I was reading The Book of Adam and Eve.... came to chapter 69.......
I looked down at my right side and saw that I have a rather large mole there that
could perhaps correspond with this event from six millennia or so in the past.

Nothing definite.... but this began to get me thinking.

https://near-death.com/ian-stevenson/

3. Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons
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There is one important part of the role of the Final or even the second last Elijah person that could well result in a massive decrease in tensions in the Middle East!

https://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm

Thus was Elias magnified in his wondrous works. And who can glory like to thee? 5 Who raisedst up a dead man from below, from the lot of death, by the word of the Lord God.

6 Who broughtest down kings to destruction, and brokest easily their power in pieces, and the glorious from their bed. 7 Who heardest judgment in Sina, and in Horeb the judgments of vengeance. 8 Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. 9 Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. 10 Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob.

11 Blessed are they that saw thee, and were honoured with thy friendship. 12 For we live only in our life, but after death our name shall not be such. 13 Elias was indeed covered with the whirlwind, and his spirit was filled up in Eliseus: in his days he feared not the prince, and no man was more powerful than he. 14 No word could overcome him, and after death his body prophesied. 15 In his life he did great wonders, and is death he wrought miracles.
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First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?

"The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.

The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).
The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.

History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish." (Sid Roth, The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65)

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I believe that the City of Brampton, Ontario Canada is in a unique position to get involved in decreasing tensions in the Middle East.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...brampton-to-the-world.612214/#post-1074339191

Hazel to Mayor Patrick Brown: "Don't think small... market Brampton to the world!"

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Could Mayor Hazel have been correct.....
could it really be possible to "Market Brampton to the World???????"

In a way.... I actually have made an effort to market Mississauga to the whole world......

and at least a few people might tend to think that what I wrote over here in this other discussion was not the most totally inept marketing that they have ever read?!

Immigration levels to Canada hit record high in 2022 ..

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Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?

I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.

Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

Assisting nine point four million Israelis to divert investment away from warfare and instead into large scale desalination of ocean water for
agriculture, reforestation projects and to make life better for everybody who lives in the Middle East will lead to
the fulfillment of Isaiah chapter thirty five. This fits with the Jewish concept of Tikkun Olam.

... "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joyand singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the
excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.

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Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongueof the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out,
and streams in the desert.
And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons,where
each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes." (Isaiah 35 : 1, 2, 6, 7 ).

A New Mexico biologist and coach wrote up an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that fits well with these ancient Islamic and Jewish predictions for the last decades and centuries of human history before our Creator gives us a utopian world where the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh.

New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell.....

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/immigration-levels-canada-hit-record-high-2022-184317777.html

Immigration levels to Canada hit record high in 2022
Canada has settled more than 800,000 newcomers in the last two years

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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

In my opinion...
telling people the truth about how silly the Al Gore Carbon Tax plan really is.....
[ especially in comparison to the vastly more practical method of turning deserts green that is advocated by New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell...... and Isaiah chapter thirty five.....
and an ancient Islamic prediction...... will greatly increase Israeli cooperation with Jordan, Egypt, Dubai, Algeria, Qatar on turning deserts green using Israeli mega-scale sea water desalination technology..... ], will soon positively alter the economy of the Middle East that.....
a major step will have been taken toward Shalom in the Middle East.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...brampton-to-the-world.612214/#post-1074339854

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Can political leaders and comedians and near death experiencers and business people in Brampton and the Greater Toronto Area come together to prevent
eighty to a hundred million climate change refugees from being created in Bangladesh alone....... in the event of a tsunami wave hitting the West Antarctic Ice Sheet??????

One possible way to market Brampton might be...... "Brampton... the City with more comedians per hectare than any other city in Canada!"

For example.... Russel Peters is from Brampton......
and I betcha Russel Peters can tell us where the majority of twenty to a hundred million climate change refugees from Brampton would probably go IF.... the West Antarctic Ice Sheet were to be hit with a Tsunami or earthquake or volcano??????

https://www.russellpeters.com

https://www.facebook.com/RussellPeters

"Crazy Names In Copenhagen."

Carl Cantrell and I got into this topic way back in 2007......

My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.

The Greening of the Sahara

Here is a forum that I got banned from.... due to how annoying some of the questions were that I was asking!

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/ph...-to-the-geography-of-the-bay-of-fundy.164103/
"Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?"

If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would
the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue?

The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus......
it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live.

So... could high tide levels near TRuro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters?

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Al Gore and Bill Gates do not want people to know how much of a threat is posed by the possible rapid cracking and sliding of ice off the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.... and the land based Greenland Ice Sheet.... because if we understood this we would soon give up on the Bill Gates "Innovating to zero" plan!!!!!!!

"At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory, Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on the HAB Theory.)

DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

In my opinion... the rabid Atheism of Richard Dawkins Ph. D. that dominates higher level education is significantly to blame for tensions in the Middle East.

In my opinion no truly intelligent person could be so dogmatic, black and white and simplistic in their thinking as to rule out the possibility of evolution beginning and continuing in Energy from Quantum Vacuum.

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca

Does Richard Dawkins Ph. D. lack understanding of The Anthropic Principle?

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I could be termed a Theistic Evolutionist.

By this I mean that I believe that our Creator is probably a Being and / or Beings composed of the type of fundamental energy that String Theory implies and I believe that GOD EVOLVED and learned over infinite time in the past and finally somewhere around six or seven millennia ago in linear time....... our Creator invented Adam and Eve but before that point in time when our Creator invented Adam and Eve, our Creator had quite a history with other forms of intelligence, some of whom went off into some seriously unethical psychological experiments that make the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. research seem like a child's game.

At this time I do believe that our Creator is heavily involved in the production of eight billion reality film projects starring all eight billion of us humans, but animals are also playing far more important of a role than we might tend to imagine. Roughly one near death experience in six involves a meeting with a previously deceased pet.

Richard Dawkins Ph. D. in my opinion IS BIASED TOWARD CARBON BASED LIFE FORMS.... AND IS very probably SCARED OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF INTELLIGENCE BEGINNING IN A HIGHER INVISIBLE DIMENSION OF SPACE - TIME, in Energy from Quantum Vacuum, or some other sort of fundamental form of energy.

Richard Dawkins: What are aliens like?
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Here are some quotations on the basic ideas behind Grand Unified Theory and String Theory:

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
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If dogmatic Atheism were to no longer dominate higher education...... then soon the Russian approach to using Palestinians as sacrificial pawns in their larger plans would soon begin to change....... and fewer people in the Middle East would aspire to become terrorists.

FreshAir · Oct 10, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

In my opinion... the rabid Atheism of Richard Dawkins Ph. D. that dominates higher level education is significantly to blame for tensions in the Middle East.

In my opinion no truly intelligent person could be so dogmatic, black and white and simplistic in their thinking as to rule out the possibility of evolution beginning and continuing in Energy from Quantum Vacuum.

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca

Does Richard Dawkins Ph. D. lack understanding of The Anthropic Principle?

If dogmatic Atheism were to no longer dominate higher education...... then soon the Russian approach to using Palestinians as sacrificial pawns in their larger plans would soon begin to change....... and fewer people in the Middle East would aspire to become terrorists.
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"If dogmatic Atheism were to no longer dominate higher education...... then soon the Russian approach to using Palestinians as sacrificial pawns in their larger plans would soon begin to change....... and fewer people in the Middle East would aspire to become terrorists."

what is happening is the Middle East is infighting among the Abrahamic religions, nothing to do with Atheists

DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

FreshAir said: ↑

"If dogmatic Atheism were to no longer dominate higher education...... then soon the Russian approach to using Palestinians as sacrificial pawns in their larger plans would soon begin to change....... and fewer people in the Middle East would aspire to become terrorists."

what is happening is the Middle East is infighting among the Abrahamic religions, nothing to do with Atheists
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I must beg to differ.....

Russia and its influence on Mideast terrorism...

1970 - Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism:

In 1970 the Kremlin became interested in an obscure Arab construction engineer and collector of racecars, named Rahman al-Qudwa. Evidence shows, contrary to later claims, that this "construction engineer" was an Egyptian, born in Cairo during the summer of 1929. Rahman graduated from the University of Cairo and served as an officer in the Egyptian Army during the 1956 Suez campaign. Later he set up a business in Kuwait and made a fortune. He then entered politics, founding a hopelessly small terrorist organization.... According to the former head of Romanian intelligence, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, one of the highest ranking communist defectors of all time, Rahman al-Qudwa became an important political ally of the communist bloc following the death of Egypt's president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, in 1970. Gen. Pacepa's account of Rahman's intimate relations with the communist bloc is related in a book entitled "Red Horizons."... Rahman al-Qudwa is better known as Yasser Arafat, the chairman of the PLO since 1968 and the president of the Palestinian Authority -- which is now at war with Israel. According to Gen. Pacepa's account, communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu ordered his people to bring Arafat over to Romania. In late 1970 the chief of Romanian intelligence in Egypt, Gen. Constantine Munteanu, arrived in Bucharest with Arafat in tow. Munteanu had gathered an extensive file on Arafat, which characterized the PLO leader as "so much cleverness, blood, and filth all together in one man." Pacepa says that this was Munteanu's "standard definition of Arafat."
Given Gen. Munteanu's extensive file, Arafat could not exactly refuse the communist's "friendly" overtures. There is little question that Arafat is fanatically devoted to destroying Israel, and would sell his soul to the devil to gain his devilish ends. Therefore, a compact between Arafat and the Soviet Union via communist Romania was not something that violated any sacred Islamic rule in Arafat's heart. Arafat is no Moslem. His fanaticism is completely secular. But since he operates within the Islamic world, he must sometimes appear as a would-be Muslim liberator. (“Kremlin puppets and how they work,” J.R. Nyquist, October 19, 2000) (read also Our Lady of the Roses prophecy about one who would come out of Egypt...)

1972 - According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”

1973 - Soviet statements and preparations for an attack against Israel led the Pentagon to order U.S. nuclear forces to the highest state of peacetime readiness. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the 82nd Airborne Division to prepare to head to the Middle East, and additional U.S. naval forces -- including American aircraft carriers -- moved into the Mediterranean, all out of a real and rising concern that the Soviets were about to make an unprecedented military move against Israel.

1982 - Israeli forces battling PLO terrorists in southern Lebanon unexpectedly uncovered a secret but massive cache of Soviet weaponry in deep underground cellars and tunnels. The storehouses contained some 4,000 tons of ammunition, 144 armored vehicles and tanks, 12,500 pieces of small arms, and 515 heavy weapons. Then-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin said that the Russians had prepositioned enough weapons to "equip not five brigades, but five or six [Soviet] divisions," adding that "we shall need literally thousands of trucks to evacuate these weapons from Lebanon."

June, 1982 - Russia organizes international terrorist conference: In June of 1982, two hundred forty organizations of eighty countries met in Tripoli for the International Conference of the World Center Resistance to Imperialism, Zionism, Racism, Reaction, and Fascism. The meeting was organized by the Soviet Union and Colonel Qaddafi and resulted in the forming of a committee ultimately consisting of Libya, Cuba, Iran, Syria, and North Korea. Their goal was the establishment of international terrorist training programs to prepare their revolutionaries for the battle against the oppressors, primarily the United States. Professional military personnel were recruited, including experts in all types of modern combat and sabotage, many of them trained in the Soviet Union. the faculty at Manzareih included translators, commandos from North Korea, security experts from Syria, veteran Palestinian terrorists, advisers from Libya, KGB officers fluent in Farsi (the Iranian language), and radical experts from movements all over the world. By 1985 there we as many as eighteen functioning training facilities in Iran training thousands of terrorists. There were special camps for women and suicide fighters as well as the general three-to-six month training sessions for regular recruits. The Iranians even turned airports into academies.... With camps established all over the Middle East and Castro's Cuba clearly destined to be the training capital of the Western hemisphere, the international terrorist machine was in motion. (John Pynchon Holms, Terrorism: Today's Biggest Threat to Freedom, pp. 164-165)

1986 - Stockholm International Peace Research Institute report: Russia had clandestine strategic reserve of several thousand nuclear weapons, as large as Russia's declared force

1990 - Soviets played a critical role in the invasion of Kuwait: The Washington Times reported on August 14, 1990 that Colonel-General Albert Makashov (a Soviet General specializing in tank warfare) arrived in Bagdad two weeks before the Kuwait invasion on July 17, and remained in Iraq until August 13. “The Soviets played a critical role in operational planning, communications, and logistics for the invasion of Kuwait.” (Financial Times, August 8, 1990) The same article stated that the attack on Kuwait “bore all the earmarks of Soviet satellite intelligence.” Also, “The Soviets never have two satellites over the Persian Gulf except in times of war.” COSMOS 2037 was launched a few weeks before the invasion of Kuwait, and then on July 20th COSMOS 2086 was launched and moved into position to view Kuwait on July 28, 1990.

September 1991 - Initial report that Russia kept a secret SS-23 nuclear arsenal in violation of treaty: When the United States received the first reports about the existence of a secret SS-23 force in September 1991, "it sent an electric shock through the intelligence community," a former intelligence analyst told WND. "The realization that the Soviets had a secret nuclear missile force undermined all our premises about arms control."... The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute estimated in 1986 that the Soviet Union had a clandestine strategic "reserve" force of several thousand weapons, as large as Russia's current declared force, making a mockery of arms control commitments with the United States. (WorldNetDaily, June 5, 2000)

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Anything that is promoted in BigMedia as being good...... means that it is good for certain billionaires. Anything that is promoted as being bad..... means that it is perceived as being bad by certain billionaires. Nothing that BigMedia publishes or allows to become a TV news segment is a serious attempt at telling the truth. Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper had to take on BigMedia to accomplish what he did back at the G-8 in 2011.

BigMedia will never tell the truth about what is really happening with Alberta oil.

The five images at the following link are amazing but you need to have a Facebook account to view them.

https://www.facebook.com/hamish.hopkins.7/posts/10156574214280487

Hamish Hopkins
March 12, 2016 ·

I read an interesting opinion on the Canadian Oil-sands that made me chuckle. A guy wrote "I've been on the banks of the Athabasca river on a hot summer day & the Bitumen (oil trapped in sand) oozes out of the banks NATURALLY as it has for untold millennium. The vegetation on the reclaimed sites are far more robust and healthy looking than the scrubby Jack Pines that struggle to grown in Bitumen laden earth"
So....basically, you can look at it like this....by stripping the oil sands of the oil, we are actually CLEANING up a NATURALLY POLLUTED area!!!
The pictures I've attached start with a natural area with Bitumen oozing out, open pit mining for oil sands (pretty ugly, but only happens in areas where bitumen is close to the surface), SAGD drilling operations for bitumen at greater depths, & reclaiming of the land after operations. This is the cycle that happens in Canada!
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http://history.alberta.ca/energyher...-the-oil-sands/the-location-of-oil-sands.aspx

DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

The following book makes many powerful points that could be promoted by BigMedia but...... there is far too much money to be made in making war so BigMedia actually puts gasoline on the Israeli and Palestinian conflict and virtually ignores any angle on the whole subject that has real hope of decreasing tensions.

https://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/

Book DownloadsGod's Peace Plan for the Holy Land and Others
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Title Version
God's Peace Plan Arabic God's Peace Plan Arabic Version (final)
God's Peace Plan English God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land
God's Peace Plan Hebrew God's Peace Plan Hebrew Version (final)
Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop Way of Holiness & the Sacred Hoop
What's Going On in the Holy Land What_s Going On In The Holy Land
Map of the Holy Land Map of the Holy Land
Map of the Holy Land Map of the Holy Land (Arabic & Hebrew)
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....

God's Peace Plan

for the Holy Land

A Peace Plan for Israel/Palestine

conforming to guidelines from the Bible and Qur’an
presented by

Robert Leon Mendelson

Copyright December 2010.

......
Preface

“God’s Peace for the Holy Land*”? Isn’t that a presumptuous title? Please allow

me to explain. First, since the sacred books of Judaism, Christianity and Islam

provide the guidelines supporting this solution, and since I wasn’t the one who

wrote them, calling them “God’s” seems fair. That’s why the words “presented by”

precede my name on the title page. Second, this book in no way proselytizes or

puts one religion above another. Nor does it openly or subtly encourage anyone to

convert to anything. What it does is take into account something without which

attaining peace in the Holy Land (Israel/Palestine) will forever be unattainable.

That “something” is the sacred messages delivered to each of the peoples involved

in the dispute. In this case, referencing the sacred books is more than some dry,

scholarly exercise or even a gesture of courtesy. Without taking the sacred books

into account, peace in the Holy Land will be near, if not completely, impossible.

What it boils down to is this: there are two groups of people, Palestinians and

Ashkenazi Jews (a.k.a. “Khazars”/“Eastern European Jews”) living in the Holy Land

and who appear to be genetically unrelated. In general, the belief systems

(religions) of both groups seem to direct them to subjugate and/or expel the other

group based on their being alien interlopers. Since millions of participants believe

this, and because their beliefs lead to acts of violence, finding a solution that

permits peace requires referencing their sacred literature.

Some may say the conflict has nothing to do with religion, but if this were so,

Jews wouldn’t claim “God gave us this land”. There’d be no point in doing so if it

had no importance to people. And Iran, a Persian nation, would have little interest

in a conflict concerning Semitic peoples several hundred miles away. It’s the

religious connection that brings Muslims of diverse backgrounds together in

support of Palestinians. Nor would millions of American Christians support Israel

without that support based on how they’re taught to read their Bibles." (Robert Mendelson)
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.... If it were not for Robert's book I would never have guessed that the following verses are in the Koran.

Next, we come to Islam and most Palestinians.

Sura 29:46;
Dispute not…with people of the Book;

And say ye, "We believe in what hath been sent down to us [Qur’an]

and what hath been sent down to you. [Old & New Testaments]

Our God and your God is one,..."
Sura 2:136;
Say ye: "We believe in God,

and that which hath been sent down to us [Qur’an],

and that which hath been sent down to Abraham

and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes [Joshua],

and in that was given to Moses, and to Jesus,

and that which was given to the prophets, from their Lord.

No difference do we make between any of them."
There are many other instances in which Muhammad told his people that

the books of the Bible were confirmed. Again, one can argue theology, but

Muslims have a choice as to whether they wish to read the Qur’an for life or

for death. Making use of the Old Testament for a solution meant for the

members of both tribes currently in the Holy Land in no way places Muslims

in other lands under any constraints in their own land. The following passage

is quite specific regarding the value of the Old Testament—properly applied;

Sura 46:12;
But before the Koran was the Book of Moses, a rule and a mercy;

and this Book confirmeth it (the Pentateuch)—in the Arabic tongue—

that those who are guilty of that wrong may be warned,

and as glad tidings to the doers of good."
“glad tidings” to “doers of good”. Muslims are supposed to be “doers of good”.

Using Old Testament Law for the descendents of those it was originally given to

in the same land in which it was originally received doesn’t violate shariah in the

least. Muhammad recited a verse including a reference to David (from the Bible)

Sura 6:85;
And we gave him Isaac and Jacob, and guided both aright;

and We had guided…among the descendants of Abraham, David …”
David said something pertinent to the situation:

Psalm 19:9-11, David;
9…The ordinances of the LORD are sure and altogether righteous.

10 They are more precious than gold, than much pure gold;

they are sweeter than honey, than honey from the comb.

11 By them is your servant warned;

in keeping them there is great reward.”
And last, an Old Testament prophecy of particular interest for Muslims

throughout the Middle East from Isaiah…

Isaiah 19:25;
The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying,

"Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria [Iraq] my handiwork,

and Israel my inheritance."

There is value for all people to make use of this wonderful tool for peace.

Without it, well, the next two passages sum up what Muslims will do.

The first passage explains how the situation in the Holy Land is seen by

Muslims worldwide and how it effects their relations with America.

Sura 60:7-9;
7 God will, perhaps, establish good will between yourselves

and those of them whom ye take to be your enemies:

God is powerful: and God is gracious, merciful.

8 God doth not forbid you to deal with kindness and fairness

towards those who have not made war upon you on account of your religion,

or driven you forth from your homes:

for God loveth those who act with fairness.

9 Only doth God forbid you to make friends of those who,

on account of your religion,

have warred against you,

and have driven you forth from your homes,

and have aided [America & the West] those [Israel] whom drove you forth:

and whoever maketh friends of them are wrongdoers."
Palestinians weren’t allowed to return to their homes after the war in 1948.

Then, after the 1967 war, more Palestinians were displaced. The majority of

Palestinians are Muslims, and whether rightly or wrongly, injustices committed

by Israel against Palestinians are perceived as injustices against Muslims as a

religion. According to this belief, verse 9 forbids all Muslims from making peace

with either Israel or anyone who supports Israel until this issue is resolved.

To understand what this next one is saying, understand that when Jews follow

the Torah and Old Testament, they’re included as “faithful”, too.

Sura 49:9-10;
9 If two bodies of the faithful are at war,

then make ye peace between them;

and if one of them wrong the other,

fight against that party which doth the wrong,

until they come back to the precepts of God;

if they come back, make peace between them with fairness,

and act impartially; God loveth those who act with impartiality.

10 Only the faithful [those who obey God's statutes] are brethren;

wherefore make peace between your brethren;

and fear God, that ye may obtain mercy."
The command to Muslims is for un-ending war until all parties abide by the

“precepts of God”. For Israelites, the precepts for sharing the land were placed

in the Old Testament. There was no need for covenants regarding land sharing

in the Holy Land to be duplicated in the Qur’an. Nor does referencing them in

any way make a Muslim disobedient to God. On the contrary—it enables them

to receive God’s mercy." (Robert Mendelson)
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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

Here is an article on what Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper accomplished at the G-8 in 2011.

If President Obama had gotten his way it would have became almost impossible for the IDF to defend Israelis from modern missiles.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...per-stands-alone-at-g8-summit/article4263322/

On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit
DOUG SAUNDERS
DEAUVILLE, FRANCE
PUBLISHED MAY 25, 2011

It was meant to be, as Barack Obama described it in London with his British counterpart beside him, another unified mission to storm the beaches of Normandy in the name of peace and democracy.

And the Western world's leaders do plan to use the Deauville, France, G8 summit to present a united front on the conflicts and revolutions of the Middle East. But one of the rare sources of friction has turned out to be the renegade Middle East views of Stephen Harper.

Alone among G8 leaders, the Canadian Prime Minister refuses to embrace the U.S. President's plan to begin peace negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis on the basis of a return to Israel's de facto borders as they existed before its 1967 war with neighbouring Arab countries - a precondition, accepted by Arabs and by many previous Israeli leaders and Canadian governments, that would be necessary to get Palestinians back to the table.

Mr. Harper made his opposition to that position clear through a spokesperson shortly after Mr. Obama's Middle East speech last week in a pre-G8 briefing, making him the lone leader in the G8 not to back the U.S. preconditions.

A unified statement on a negotiated path to a Palestinian state had been a key goal of the Deauville summit, in large part because such a statement might have pre-empted an attempt to pass a United Nations resolution that would declare a Palestinian state against Israel's will.

There was some sense that Canada is putting an obstacle in the way of this goal. "Mr. Harper clearly is the odd man out on this one, and it won't do him any favours," a British official involved with the G8 conference said.

Indeed, the summit opened Wednesday after a day of meetings between Mr. Obama and Britain's Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron in which the two leaders made a bold show of having brought together their positions on Israel, the Palestinians and the Arab revolutions.

Mr. Cameron has generally been much tougher in his criticisms of Israel and more hawkish in his support of Arab revolutions than his U.S. counterpart, but Mr. Obama said they had "turned a corner" and built a common front. Mr. Cameron, standing beside the U.S. President, called his speech "bold" and "visionary."

Canada has not been included in such initiatives because of Mr. Harper's positions.

But others felt that Mr. Harper's recalcitrance would be less of an obstacle: After all, he has taken positions that side unilaterally with Israel since his first G8 summit in St. Petersburg shortly after he became Prime Minister in 2006, when he shocked delegates by rejecting a resolution calling for restraint in Israel's attack on Lebanon, instead drafting his own "Canadian resolution" supporting the Israeli cause.

"Canada is clearly at one extreme end of a continuum on the Israel issue, but we are not an outlier," said John Kirton, the director of the G8 Research Group at the University of Toronto. "It's fair to say that they will be able to issue a united statement, perhaps without being specific on the 1967 language, that allows Mr. Obama to say he has made progress on this."
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outstanding Explanation: Why Israel can't withdraw to its pre '67 borders line - Please Share

I believe that a "Christian Political Cyrus" will play an important role in bringing Shalom to the Middle East.

The Christian Political Cyrus / The Audition and President Donald J. Trump.

DennisTate said: ↑

Here is the article that I read only six days ago that got me really worried that The Abraham Accords may be terribly and seriously flawed..... and an obvious option should be considered by President Donald J. Trumpand everybody on his team who assisted with The Abraham Accords Declaration.

https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=__test_email__&u=e86da3a31358aa734376350b1&id=8fa840823d

US Election confusion, is it the Lord?

IF THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS WHOLE SITUATION BY MR. SIMAN TOV ALIALOUF IS CORRECT, (AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT IS), THEN ALLOWING THE 2020 ELECTION TO BE STOLEN COULD BE ONE OF THE GREATEST ACTS OF MERCY DONE BY MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS FOR AMERICA IN THE PAST CENTURY OR TWO OR THREE!

THERE IS A TRADITION OR PROPHECY THAT I ENCOUNTERED DECADES AGO THAT IF AND WHEN THE UNITED STATES DIVIDES ISRAEL.....
AMERICA WILL BE HIT BY A EARTHQUAKE THAT WILL DIVIDE AMERICA......
BECAUSE THE ABRAHAM PEACE ACCORDS WOULD DIVIDE ISRAEL WHEN FULLY IMPLEMENTED AMERICA HAS BEEN IN A MASSIVE POLITICAL DIVISION SINCE 2020 BUT....... THIS POLITICAL DIVISION SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A SERIOUS WARNING THAT WE HAD BETTER REPENT AND NOT TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE DIVISION OF ISRAEL..........

.... THERE IS SOMETHING FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR ,FAR BETTER THAT SHOULD BE DONE BEGINNING IN 2022..... IT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EZEKIEL TEMPLE COMPLEX EXPLAINED IN EZEKIEL CHAPTERS FORTY TO FORTY EIGHT BECAUSE CHAPTER FORTY SEVEN IS WIN - WIN - WIN - WIN - WIN - WIN - WIN - WIN FOR ISRAEL, THE PALESTINIANS IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA AND JERUSALEM, AS WELL AS FOR JORDAN, EGYPT, LEBANON, SYRIA AND ALL NATIONS THAT NEIGHBOUR ISRAEL.

THE ASTONISHING PREDICTIONS IN EZEKIEL CHAPTER FORY SEVEN ARE LITERAL... BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE METAPHORICAL MEANING IN THESE VERSES WILL SET IN MOTION THE RESTORATION OF THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND BREAK THE POWER OF DIVISION AND FEAR AND LIES AND ELITIST MALTHUSIAN CATASTROPHE THEORY THAT HAS DOMINATED POLITICS, ECONOMICS, BUSINESS AND BIG RELIGIOUS ORANIZATIONS FOR MANY CENTURIES!

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https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=__test_email__&u=e86da3a31358aa734376350b1&id=8fa840823d

For out of Zion the Law will go forth, and the Word of Jehovah from Yerushalaim

US Election: Is God Sending A Warning?

November 9 2020

Six days ago the United States of America entered into her most controversial election in her entire history. And it is very far from over. I am sure you have all been watching the news and praying very concerned this doesn't take America into a civil war.

Republican vs Democrats: Or is God speaking out of His mercy ?

The media is filled with all kinds of allegations and theories of with is committing voter fraud and who is entitle to declare a victory. But could a little bit of what has been happening in the USA for the past few years with fires and draughts and riots and hurricanes be the voice of the Lord bringing a warning to a nation and its leaders that God is not happy with Donald Trump's plan to divide Israel, called "The Deal Of The Century".

“‘The land shall not be sold in perpetuity, for the land is mine; for you are strangers and live as foreigners with me. Lev 25:23

We have witnessed D. Trump do some very historic and brave things for Israel, such as moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem and then recognizing the Golan Heights as being a part of Israel. Things that angered many and made some (especially here in Israel) glad.

But is recognizing what God's word has declared for over 3,000 years about Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, considered sufficient authority for the President to now violate God's word and will? It is almost like buying a very beautiful wardrobe for a special and attractive lady and then say now that I have given you this, will you please engage in some prostitution in order that I can also satisfy others with my kindness to you? I know that may sound rather vulgar, but truth is there is no act any man could perform to justify the division of God's land. It is sin and a grave sin.

Here is one of Donald Trumps aspects of the so called deal.

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Jerusalem: The Palestinians will have a capital in east Jerusalem based on northern and eastern neighborhoods that are outside the Israeli security barrier – Kafr Akab, Abu Dis and half of Shuafat. Otherwise, Trump said Jerusalem will remain undivided as Israel’s capital. full story here

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But the truth is this land is still a part of the Jerusalem municipality and of Israel. The President needs to understand his actions to divide Jerusalem have grave consequences.

It will happen in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. Zec 12:9

He said to Abram, “I am Yahweh who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give you this land to inherit it.” He said, “Lord Yahweh, how will I know that I will inherit it?” He said to him, “Bring me a heifer three years old, a female goat three years old, a ram three years old, a turtledove, and a young pigeon.” He brought him all these, and divided them in the middle, and laid each half opposite the other; but he didn’t divide the birds. The birds of prey came down on the carcasses, and Abram drove them away. When the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell on Abram. Now terror and great darkness fell on him. He said to Abram, “Know for sure that your offspring will live as foreigners in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them. They will afflict them four hundred years. I will also judge that nation, whom they will serve. Afterward they will come out with great wealth; but you will go to your fathers in peace. You will be buried at a good old age. In the fourth generation they will come here again, for the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet full.” It came to pass that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold, a smoking furnace and a flaming torch passed between these pieces. In that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, “I have given this land to your offspring, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates: Gen 15:7 - 18

Abrahamic Accords:

Also just a couple days before Yom Teruach (feast of Trumpets) on September 15/20 Israel, UAE and Donald Trump gathered together in the White House to sign a historic document titled theAbrahamic Accords, the deal touted as being orchestrated by the President. God knows why Donald Trump chose the words Abrahamic Accords, when the Lord made a covenant with Abraham millennia past to give this land to Abraham and his descendants. A agreement of mutual recognition between Israel and the United Aram Emirates. It was hailed as a historic event that is just the beginning of at least ten other Islamic nations joining into a mutual agreement of co-operation with Israel. But the grandest question is why did the UAE agree and now ten other countries soon to follow agree to sign a treaties with someone they have vowed to destroy for decades? The answer is Israel agreed to immediately stop all plans to annex parts of Judea and Samaria and agreed that the "Deal Of The Century" would be implemented quickly. Which means the USA brokered the beginnings of the division of the land. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also in agreeing to this action is bringing judgement on himself and Israel. Johnathan Cahn told a story of how Netanyahu was warned not to divide the land back in 1996, but he did it anyway, and was removed from power.

He has remembered his covenant forever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations, the covenant which he made with Abraham, his oath to Isaac, and confirmed the same to Jacob for a statute; to Israel for an everlasting covenant, saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance;” when they were but a few men in number, yes, very few, and foreigners in it.
Psa 105:8 - 12

Back in January of this year I wrote this article and this article concerning the announcement of the "Deal of The Century". Warning that the consequences to dividing God's land would be detrimental to the United States, and that we in the body of Messiah must pray. I pointed out that Donald Trump waited to this historic week of January 26-31 2020 to announce his "Deal Of The Century" to divide Israel. Why was is it a historic week? Because it was exactly when the leaders of the nations came to Jerusalem in remembrance of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz There have been many that have had prophetic dreams and visions of America being devastated if they continued to push to divide the land.

I have included many links to videos and articles explaining the absolute danger of trying to divide God's Land, and we must take this seriously. I am convinced if this action is not stopped it will be the destruction of the United States of America, and not just chaos from an election but it will never be the same again. Please take some time when you are free and read these articles and view the videos, time is of the essence and America hangs in the balance between being a goat nation or a sheep nation.

Please enquire of the Lord and get His heart in prayer for mercy on the USA and her leaders.

Prophetic Word concerning US Election Here

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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

I personally believe that the construction of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex so that
the amazing events of Ezekiel chapter forty seven will be fulfilled both literally as well as figuratively is the best way to
bring Shalom to Israel, the Palestinians, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and all of the Middle East.

The events of Ezekiel chapter forty seven are win, win, win, win, win, win, win for Israel, Jordan, The Palestinians, Lebanon, Egypt and all of Israel's neighbours

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 47&version=NKJV

Ezekiel 47
New King James Version

The Healing Waters and Trees
47 Then he brought me back to the door of the temple; and there was water, flowing from under the threshold of the temple toward the east, for the front of the temple faced east; the water was flowing from under the right side of the temple, south of the altar. 2 He brought me out by way of the north gate, and led me around on the outside to the outer gateway that faces east; and there was water, running out on the right side.

3 And when the man went out to the east with the line in his hand, he measured one thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the water came up to my ankles. 4 Again he measured one thousand and brought me through the waters; the water came up to my knees. Again he measured one thousand and brought me through; the water came up to my waist. 5 Again he measured one thousand, and it was a river that I could not cross; for the water was too deep, water in which one must swim, a river that could not be crossed. 6 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen this?” Then he brought me and returned me to the bank of the river.

7 When I returned, there, along the bank of the river, were very many trees on one side and the other. 8 Then he said to me: “This water flows toward the eastern region, goes down into the valley, and enters the sea. When itreaches the sea, its waters are healed. 9 And it shall be that every living thing that moves, wherever the rivers go, will live. There will be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters go there; for they will be healed, and everything will live wherever the river goes. 10 It shall be that fishermen will stand by it from En Gedi to En Eglaim; they will be places for spreading their nets. Their fish will be of the same kinds as the fish of the Great Sea, exceedingly many. 11 But its swamps and marshes will not be healed; they will be given over to salt. 12 Along the bank of the river, on this side and that, will grow all kinds of trees used for food; their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. They will bear fruit every month, because their water flows from the sanctuary. Their fruit will be for food, and their leaves for medicine.”

Now finally quite specific and encouraging plans do exist for where to put the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex.

DennisTate said: ↑

We now have clues as to how the water coming from the Ezekiel Temple Complex could accomplish such astonishing things!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto

https://thewellnessenterprise.com/emoto/

Dr. Masaru Emoto and Water Consciousness

March 23, 2017

Dr. Emoto was a pioneer in the study of water. His work demonstrated that water is shaped by environment, thoughts and emotions.
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https://yehezkeel-narod-ru.translat..._sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Temple according to Ezekiel's prophecy
Project 1534

2022

( ȼ ) The text of this book and illustrations, with the exception of photographs, are in the public domain and this book is published here .

Aryeh Ben-Menashe email

This book is the result of the work of a team of authors.

Table of Contents
1. Introduction
2. Location of the Temple
3. Architectural Design of the Temple
4. Work of the Temple Complex
5. Theology of the Third Temple 6. Interpretation of Ezekiel's Prophecy
7. Interpretation of the Revelation of John 8. Numerical Prophecies of the Bible 9. Little - Known Facts of the Bible 10. Conclusion 11. Questions

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Attention! This book is not a prophecy. Interpretation of Bible prophecies cannot be considered prophecies.

We have a 3D model of the Temple, corresponding to the description in Ezekiel .

1.2 The need to build the Temple

The Great Tribulation period, that is, the period of wars, epidemics, famine and natural disasters for humanity, and the period of mutual confessional isolation among believers will end only when the Temple described in the book of the prophet Ezekiel is built, and in this Temple the “elect from the four” will gather winds,” that is, followers of Jesus Christ from among the nations of the whole world.

...for then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor will there be. And if those days had not been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. (Matthew 24:21,22)

“For the sake of the elect those days will be shortened,” and the elect cannot be gathered until there is a Temple. Only by building the Temple in accordance with the Holy Scriptures and providing an opportunity for the elect to gather there will we fulfill the condition for ending the disasters of the Great Tribulation.

1.3 Possibility of building a Temple

The territory where the Temple is to be built is located in Israel (zone “C”), it is a natural reserve, there are no religious or residential buildings in this territory, the place is free. The Israeli government has the opportunity to build a Temple there.

1.4 Timing of construction of the Temple

Theologically, the Temple must be built by the 1st of the month of Tishrei. The eastern gate of the Temple must be opened on the morning of Yom Teruah, and it will be closed forever at the end of the day of Yom Kippur, when the consecration of the altar and the manifestation of the glory of the Lord are completed, that is, the solemn entry of the chosen ones, with whom the Lord God of Israel will appear in the Temple.

The schemes we have for interpreting the numerical prophecies of the Bible, about the 70 weeks of Daniel, about 2300 evenings and mornings, about 1290 and 1335 days, suggest that the Temple should be built in 2023. Therefore, the estimated construction date for the Temple is September 16, 2023.

1.5 There will be no Temple on Mount Moriah

The Temple for the Messiah on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem cannot be built, because there already stood the Temple into which the Messiah, Jesus Christ, appeared. For the Antichrist, God will not build a Temple, and the devil does not need a material temple at all, because everyone there would quickly expose him, especially the Christian denominations that expect this.

The devil is not so stupid as to build a mousetrap for himself in which he will be caught. He is quite satisfied that he is the prince of this world. Current religions also suit the devil quite well, because they are completely subordinate to him and serve his interests, they serve the authorities of this world.

It is impossible to build a copy of the Second Temple, because God has already shown us the Temple that will build Him: we have the prophecy of Ezekiel, where all the main dimensions and statutes of this Temple are given for us. By today we already know the place where this Temple should be built, and we have an architectural model of this Temple.

Therefore, all expectations for the construction of the Temple on Mount Moriah are in vain, and the construction of the Third Temple depends only on us, and not on the Lord God. He has already done everything necessary on his part so that we can build the Third Temple.

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Table of Contents
1. Introduction
2. Location of the Temple
3. Architectural Design of the Temple
4. Work of the Temple Complex
5. Theology of the Third Temple 6. Interpretation of Ezekiel's Prophecy
7. Interpretation of the Revelation of John 8. Numerical Prophecies of the Bible 9. Little - Known Facts of the Bible 10. Conclusion 11. Questions

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2. Location of the Temple

2.1 New location for the Temple

Already one single verse of Ezekiel's prophecy indicates three times that the Temple should not be built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem:

In visions of God, He brought me to the land of Israel and placed me on a very high mountain, and on it, on the southern side, there were, as it were, city buildings; (Ezekiel 40:2)

(1) There are no mountains in Jerusalem, much less a “very high mountain.” (2) The First and Second Temples were not located on the southern slope of Mount Zion. (3) Ko'en Ezekiel failed to identify the place shown to him as Jerusalem, where he served in the Temple.
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DennisTate · Oct 10, 2023

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" [Luke 24:25]

Here is The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East.... [which I believe will happen when Ezekiel chapter forty seven begins to happen] ..... .....
We should believe that Ezekiel was truly a Prophet........
and we should build what he said should be built where he said it should be built.......!!!!!!!!!!

Then we should encourage Orthodox and Chassidic Jews to do everything that Ezekiel wrote that they should do there!

http://ezekiel-temple.narod.ru/forum/

http://ezekiel-temple.narod.ru/forum/14-181-1

MGB ROADSTER · Oct 10, 2023

Arabs don't give a $hit about the events of Ezekiel chapter forty seven.
Muslims will not rest until they occupy the holy land, and after that Europe and all the west.

DennisTate · Oct 12, 2023

MGB ROADSTER said: ↑

Arabs don't give a $hit about the events of Ezekiel chapter forty seven.
Muslims will not rest until they occupy the holy land, and after that Europe and all the west.
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But.... the story of Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac / Yitzhaq in The Book of Jasher is really, really, really, really, really, really POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!

In summary..... Hagar is the daughter of the King Solomon sort of guy at the time of the Patriarch Abraham.......

... If I remember correctly he is known as Pharaoh Rikaeon of Egypt..... but he came from outside Egypt... but this guy is so intelligent that his
synaptic pathways have glial cells.......
..... he has an astonishing fund of knowledge but......
he is not wealthy.... until he gets to Egypt......

.... where he comes up with a plan that makes him the wealthiest man of that time period......
.....
So.... Hagar is a Princess at that time period.....
....
a detail that is covered in The Book of Jasher that is NOT really covered in the canonized Jewish scriptures.....
..... or in the Christian scriptures either.....
.... so.... when Isaac is five years old.... and when Ishmael is thirteen years old ..... [or was it fifteen years old]????????... I forget but anyway.......

Sarah sees Ishmael pointing an arrow at Isaac / Yitzhaq......... [some things never seem to change do they]???????????????????????

So... in the light of the details revealed in The Book of Jasher the entire Biblical story takes on an entirely new dimension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [of Emotional value].... that could be termed Artistic Value... that can be transformed into diplomatic value... educational value..... AND YES.... ECONOMIC VALUE!!!!!!!!!?????

No wonder the extreme political left want to burn all books that contain information that is NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT..... by 2023 definitions of politically correct!!!!!!!!

Here is a quotation from that ancient Book of Jasher that strongly hints that CLONING happened before the Flood of the time of Noah!!!!!!

https://sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/4.htm

7 And still the sons of men did not turn from their evil ways, and their hands were still extended to do evil in the sight of God, and they provoked the Lord with their evil ways, and the Lord was very wroth, and repented that he had made man.

8 And he thought to destroy and annihilate them and he did so.

9 In those days when Lamech the son of Methuselah was one hundred and sixty years old, Seth the son of Adam died.

10 And all the days that Seth lived, were nine hundred and twelve years, and he died.

11 And Lamech was one hundred and eighty years old when he took Ashmua, the daughter of Elishaa the son of Enoch his uncle, and she conceived.

12 And at that time the sons of men sowed the ground, and a little food was produced, yet the sons of men did not turn from their evil ways, and they trespassed and rebelled against God.

13 And the wife of Lamech conceived and bare him a son at that time, at the revolution of the year.

14 And Methuselah called his name Noah, saying, The earth was in his days at rest and free from corruption, and Lamech his father called his name Menachem, saying, This one shall comfort us in our works and miserable toil in the earth, which God had cursed.

15 And the child grew up and was weaned, and he went in the ways of his father Methuselah, perfect and upright with God.

16 And all the sons of men departed from the ways of the Lord in those days as they multiplied upon the face of the earth with sons and daughters, and they taught one another their evil practices and they continued sinning against the Lord.

17 And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence.

18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.

19 And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.

20 And all men who walked in the ways of the Lord, died in those days, before the Lord brought the evil upon man which he had declared, for this was from the Lord, that they should not see the evil which the Lord spoke of concerning the sons of men.

21 And Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord chose him and his children to raise up seed from them upon the face of the whole earth.
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Jeremiah 23:20 King James Version (KJV)"The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly."

My theory is that we can finally consider all of these things perfectly in the latter days...... but we could not have considered these things perfectly five hundred years before the "latter days".... because of information that is finally available freely now....... that was not available five centuries ago!!!!!

MGB ROADSTER · Oct 12, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

But.... the story of Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac / Yitzhaq in The Book of Jasher is really, really, really, really, really, really POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The sons of Ishmael are HAMAS ISIS.
They butchered 1200 Israeli women, children and babies.
Your theory is nice but will not happen because you do not understand Arabs.

Yant0s · Oct 12, 2023

DennisTate said: ↑

Any problem that we can blame on ourselves.......
or even see how even ten to twenty percent of the problems is at least significantly our fault......
then we have the power as well as the responsibility to attempt to the best of our ability to address that problem.

On the other hand... if we blame a problem one hundred percent.... or above ninety percent on somebody else.....
we are essentially throwing away our power and responsibility to solve .... or even significantly effectively address that problem.

I have already explained here on political forum how perhaps ninety nine point nine, nine, nine percent of Modern World Problems might perhaps be related to at least one of my possible past lives.........
....
The possibility of past lives relates to the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism as well as to the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.

I am of the belief that the residents of the Canadian province of Alberta are in a position to play a massive role in setting motion a series of events that could be compared to a game of chess with EIGHT BILLION Infinitely Valuable.... and Unlimited Movement Variables.......
......
and there is a shocking IMAGE that will get many intelligent people thinking about all of this.....

Proposed Republic of Western Canada and Unified Field Theory of M.W.P.

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I don't think allowing Andrew Tate to come up with a solution is the answer. I simply don't think he is qualified in solving the Palestine/Israel crisis .

DennisTate · Oct 12, 2023

Yant0s said: ↑

I don't think allowing Andrew Tate to come up with a solution is the answer. I simply don't think he is qualified in solving the Palestine/Israel crisis .
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Thank you for this fascinating reply......
I really should dig up a you tube video by Mr. Andrew Tate and add it here to my reply because he is certainly an interesting individual but......
......
the Tate in question is Dennis Tate.....
who is arguably "Canada's Worst Politician"... but my being an aspiring VOLUNTEER reality film producer may perhaps put me into another category altogether......
especially when I admit that I stole an important concept from Pastor Steve Long.....
who proposed naming a certain town or city here in Ontario "BIEBERVILLE" after Mr. Justin Bieber.....
who Pastor Steve knows quite well!

I also got back this fascinating reply to post number fourteen....
....

Interesting account.
And sure, one can make money off of almost anything, including this knowledge,
as anytime someone writes something, there's a possibility they can sell it.

BUT--(as you appear to like capital letters) YOU PRESENT NO EVIDENCE OR LOGIC INDICATING THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ON EARTH WILL COME THROUGH RICH PEOPLE AND THEIR MONEY.
OK, i'LL ADD THE REQUISITE "!!!!!?????". THERE!!!!!?????

SAME GOES FOR PEACE IN THE HOLY LAND, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS...
Isaiah 60:10-11, 16;
10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.
11 Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night,
so that men may bring you the wealth of the nations--their kings led in triumphal procession.
16 You will drink the milk of nations and be nursed at royal breasts."

HOWEVER, THAT WEALTH COMES INTO PLAY AFTER THE FACT (I.E., SALVATION), AS A RESULT OF THAT SALVATION,
RATHER THAN BEFORE, AS A PART OF SOMETHING CAUSING OR LEADING TO SALVATION.

THE BEATLES WERE RIGHT!!!!???? MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE--OR SALVATION, EITHER.

Writing everything in caps gets wearisome.

However, aside from that, you also wrote the following...
"No wonder the extreme political left want to burn all books that contain information that is NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.....
by 2023 definitions of politically correct!!!!!!!!"

What planet do you live on, Dennis?
It ain't the "extreme political left" who is banning books they don't find to be "politically correct".
It's the extreme political "right" that's doing that!

Are you living your life looking into a mirror that reverses everything?

PLL
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Candace Owens x Andrew Tate: The Interview

Wow.... I would love to do an interview with Mr. Andrew Tate and / or Ms. Canadace Owens!

My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.

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Is the world economy being deliberately dampened, perhaps to save the environment?

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Yes
3 vote(s)
75.0%

No
0 vote(s)
0.0%

Maybe?????
1 vote(s)
25.0%

Change Your Vote

This will fill in details on "Canada's Worst Politician......."

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...on-to-the-world.612214/page-3#post-1074457728

DennisTate said: ↑

The following message is being shared to many President Trump support groups on Mewe.

www.WinningPublishing.com/

It is my firm belief that The Great Wealth Transfer from the Wicked to the Righteous is beginning and....... most of the problems confronting the USA can be addressed through the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area film industry.

My suggestion would be a micro-nation in Nova Scotia... where the same thing is done that Dr. Sheldon Cooper and Leonard and Penny and the gang at BigBang Theory did by turning the apartment into a micro nation.......... and printing up an alternative currency note similar to Calgary Dollars or the Ithaca Hour!

..... An alternative universe 1939 could be very useful.....

..... .......Canada's Worst Politician, the film series concept?!
November 29, 2012 at 8:14am

I live about one hundred miles from an area of the world that I strongly suspect is in the position of the proverbial "canary in a coal mine" as far as the danger of rising ocean levels is concerned.

In my part of Nova Scotia, the difference between high tide and low tide will be as little as one meter but in parts of the Bay of Fundy the difference can be between 52 to 56 feet. The Bay of Fundy has a funneling effect on tidal waters.

There are 143,000 acres of productive farmland in that area that have been taken back from the ocean by dikes. I am worried that if ocean levels rose by as little as thirty centimeters that part of the Bay of Fundy could be hit by high tides that could perhaps be close to five meters higher than normal.

I am willing to go all out and make a fool of myself on a totally voluntary basis to attempt to soothe my conscience that I tried my best to do what needs to be done at this time to set in motion a series of events that could actually prevent ocean levels from rising at all?!?!

You can see one of my films that I will give you legal rights to use for one dollar if you will follow down in the comments in this note....and I will sure try to do more for you if you are willing and able to do something with this film concept.
Basically the concept for the film series that I have in mind involves a major star, such as Jim Carrey, playing the role of my grandfather, George Malloy. Johnny Galecki, (Leonard on Big Bang Theory), would be ideal to play the role of my Uncle William Malloy who was killed in Italy on January 2, 1945.

The film takes place in 1938 and 1939 and postulates an entirely different ending to the M. S. St. Louis saga that, as you can guess alters the future so that Uncle Bill not only is not killed in Italy but the holocaust is prevented from occurring.

I love the idea of 28 BILLION George Malloy/Jim Carrey Dollars being printed up, that work much like www.
CalgaryDollars
.ca except that they are in a sense props in a series of films designed to inspire several companies and nations to get working on a plan to turn deserts green, combat malnutrition worldwide, stabilize the climate all at the same time that we stimulate organized barter and create some jobs in the Nova Scotia, Montreal, USA and Israeli film market!Proposal for the creation of a Quebec provincial currency unit to save coastal communities from threat of rising ocean levels.

"2023 By-Election for Mayor of Toronto, Canada"

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/2023-by-election-for-mayor-of-toronto-canada.610306/
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DennisTate · Oct 12, 2023

And now to give an answer to my friend's intriguing question....... at least the biggest one anyway.....

Interesting account.
And sure, one can make money off of almost anything, including this knowledge,
as anytime someone writes something, there's a possibility they can sell it.

BUT--(as you appear to like capital letters) YOU PRESENT NO EVIDENCE OR LOGIC INDICATING THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ON EARTH WILL COME THROUGH RICH PEOPLE AND THEIR MONEY.
OK, i'LL ADD THE REQUISITE "!!!!!?????". THERE!!!!!?????

SAME GOES FOR PEACE IN THE HOLY LAND, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS...
Isaiah 60:10-11, 16;
10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.
11 Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night,
so that men may bring you the wealth of the nations--their kings led in triumphal procession.
16 You will drink the milk of nations and be nursed at royal breasts."

HOWEVER, THAT WEALTH COMES INTO PLAY AFTER THE FACT (I.E., SALVATION), AS A RESULT OF THAT SALVATION,
RATHER THAN BEFORE, AS A PART OF SOMETHING CAUSING OR LEADING TO SALVATION.

THE BEATLES WERE RIGHT!!!!???? MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE--OR SALVATION, EITHER.

Writing everything in caps gets wearisome.

However, aside from that, you also wrote the following...
"No wonder the extreme political left want to burn all books that contain information that is NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.....
by 2023 definitions of politically correct!!!!!!!!"

What planet do you live on, Dennis?
It ain't the "extreme political left" who is banning books they don't find to be "politically correct".
It's the extreme political "right" that's doing that!

Are you living your life looking into a mirror that reverses everything?

PLL
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IF... it is indeed true... that
billionaires and trillionaires finance both sides of wars.....

then flipping the way that billionaires think will alter the Middle East peace formula... and the economy of the Middle East.....

Eisenhower's Warning about the Military-Industrial Complex

http://64.71.77.248/the_harvest/the-harvest-v2.pdf

"A Vision Of The Harvest" is a brief summary of an extensive vision which I received in September 1987. In this vision I saw a sweeping panorama of events, including an outpouring of the Holy Spirit destined to eclipse every previous move in history, along with many world events due to unfold as this age closes. This summary is an attempt to share the highlights of this vision in an effort to awaken those who will hear to the great preparation required if we are to be a part of this move, and ready for that which is coming upon the world. I have updated this summary to include a few other relative visions and insights that I have received since the first vision. These were included because they complement and enhance the first vision, which is published by MorningStar Publications, Inc. in its entirety, under the title The Harvest.

To properly understand this vision it must be kept in mind that the events included in it unfold over a period of time, possibly many years. The length of time which passed during this vision could have been five years or fifty; I was given no sense or understanding of the timing. It is obvious that many are already beginning to take place. I do know that whether we have five years or fifty, we do not have any time to waste.

This vision ended with such an abruptness that I knew the end of the vision was not the end of the age, and I had no concept of how much time was left after the vision ended.
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A VISION OF THE HARVEST
by Rick Joyner

When this vision was first printed in 1987 it seemed that just a few prophetic people were perceiving that the world was on the verge of a great spiritual harvest. Now it seems that the entire body of Christ is in expectation of an unprecedented outpouring the Holy Spirit. Much of the world is already experiencing a harvest. The church in many nations is experiencing everything from genuine revival to what could be termed another Great Awakening. We are truly in the initial stages of a harvest that will ultimately be greater than all its predecessors.

However, even with the almost universal expectation of the coming harvest, far too little has actually been done by the church to prepare for it. When the Soviet Union opened to religious freedom the sects and cults were very well prepared to sweep in with strategy and discipline. It has taken the church almost five years to respond to this great opportunity with even comparable resources. We are now on the verge of seeing the two greatest harvest fields in the world open, China and the Middle East. Again, the church seems halting and timid in preparing for these great opportunities, while the sects and cults are mobilized with great resolve to fill the void.
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Casting Pastor Rick Joyner as one of the Two Witnesses in an alternative universe....

"The Lord is now preparing courageous leaders who
will be willing to fight a spiritual civil war in order to set men free.
The main issue, as in the American Civil War, will be slavery versus
freedom. The secondary issue, which will be the primary issue for some,
will be money.

Just as the American Civil War at time looked like it would destroy the entire
nation, that which is coming upon the church will sometimes appear as if it will
bring the end of the church. However, just as the United States not only
survived but went on to become the most powerful nation on earth, the same
is going to happen to the church. The church will not be destroyed, but the institutions
and doctrines that have kept men in spiritual slavery will be" (Rick Joyner, The Vision, page 39)
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Or if you prefer text.....
http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

DennisTate · Oct 12, 2023

We are now in an era when the following prediction can take on entirely new meaning within the context of a USA economy facing the prospect of a Biden Digital Currency. We Canadians know that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau must be planning something similar for us or he would not have behaved as he has done over these past five years.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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A world where people do not even want CHARITY is difficult to imagine but......
I put forward something a few months ago that could become a major step in that direction here in Canada.

Your theology and a Basic Minimum Income?

DennisTate said: ↑

I have believed for many years now that if somebody's religious beliefs is PRO-LIFE then they should also tend to support a Basic Minimum Income for all citizens as was advocated by Economist Milton Friedman.

An UNCONDITIONAL BASIC MINIMUM INCOME would give added life to organizations that are attempting to help the homeless.... drug addicts....... alcoholics...... victims of the sex industry... gambling.... and would become a source of revenue that courts could divert over from fathers to a mom who has custody of the children and is actually caring for the children!

I am Pro - Life and I definitely think that an unconditional Basic Minimum Income to all citizens will positively alter the economy of The United States and Canada and soon other nations will follow suit because our history shows how this idea goes back many decades.
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We now live in a world where the Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment could become a significant percentage of the funding for charities that reach out to the homeless or other people who have made bad choices and gotten themselves into serious trouble.

Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

DennisTate said: ↑

www.CalgaryDollars.ca/
is a good example of how several dozen socially active residents of an area can begin what amounts to a second tier to the economy.

The Ithaca Hour is an excellent example of a similar concept being applied in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_Hours

Most North American churches have a desire to assist the poor and the oppressed. Well..... .. in 2014 efforts by a group of socially active Christians could easily transform dozens of homeless people into actors ..... .. who are playing the role of homeless people ...... .. and the specific efforts to help them could becomes scenes in a series of documentary and reality films designed to give the homeless people a job that finances their getting an apartment or at least a group home.

Most of us are unaware of the Worgl, Austria local currency experiment that was conducted during the Great Depression and how successfully it was copied in hundreds of communities in the USA. As a matter of fact .......... it looks like what these communities accomplished played a significant role in inspiring the USA government to alter the monetary system in many positive ways.

http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717
The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley
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City in Austria Printed Local Currency
Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.
Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.

This pattern of economic collapse and re-emergence of local currencies has occurred thousands of times in many parts of the world. When these currencies have failed or have been suppressed, banks have not always been to blame. Sometimes, local currencies fail because they have been badly designed or implemented. Sometimes, people lose interest in them when the mainstream economy recovers. But they have always returned in one form or another during times of economic failure.

Our present world situation is uniquely different. Despite a relatively prosperous and stable world economy, a quiet monetary revolution has been occurring around the globe over the last 20 years. Awareness is growing about the flaws in our current monetary system, and people are re-creating viable alternatives. We are witnessing for the first time the worldwide creation of money systems designed by the people who use them, instead of by central banks.

Time Dollars in Whatcom County
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In my opinion The Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment.... especially as it was applied in over a thousand USA communities during the Great Depression proves that churches and synagogues and other religious organizations are now in a position to do far more than they ever could have imagined in the past. Theoretically....... a Catch the Fire Volunteerism Hour or Dollar could be used to pay homeless people living in the area of Catch the Fire churches to become actors who are paid minimum wage to become actors..... playing the role of themselves..... in reality films that could well become economically successful. If the reality film series HOARDERS can be successful... then why not a reality film series starring homeless people........ who volunteer to go through a Fire Tunnel........ some of them have unusual results in this Fire Tunnel..... and some of these homeless people have a transformation in their lives that would have significant Artistic Value... Diplomatic Value... Educational Value.... and yes..... potentially even ECONOMIC value!!!!!!

I personally do agree with Pastor Kenneth Hagin that if America is in trouble it is the churches fault....
but he meant this in terms of Christians not praying and fasting and preaching enough.... but I believe that we now have far greater power as well as responsibility with all the astonishing open doors that are in front of us. Printing up a church currency note similar to Calgary Dollars or The Ithaca Hour is also AN OPEN DOOR!

7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name." [Revelation 3: 7 and 8]

Kenneth Hagin: "If America is in trouble, it is the church's fault!"

In my opinion... when churches and synagogues understand the astonishing power that is there in local currencies.....
all seven mountains could fall rapidly and the Eruv Rav could be defeated.

DennisTate · Oct 13, 2023

MGB ROADSTER said: ↑

The sons of Ishmael are HAMAS ISIS.
They butchered 1200 Israeli women, children and babies.
Your theory is nice but will not happen because you do not understand Arabs.
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But the Being of Light of near death experience fame is meeting with people....
and an astonishing number of people even in the Islamic world are listening to former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava. The prediction of Egyptians being free to go to Jerusalem to observe the Festival of Sukkot or Tabernacles is getting closer and closer and closer.

https://www.alonanava.com

https://www.alonanava.com/about/

About Rabbi Anava
Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!
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Zechariah 14

14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.

21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.
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DennisTate · Oct 14, 2023

Something intriguing that I have ran into about Holocausts..... as I studied near death experience accounts rather obsessively since 1990.....
is that whether they are organized by German political leaders and the officers and soldiers who obey them......

.... or by political leaders who identify as Christian or Atheist or Islamic .....
and the people who obey them.......

... those pogroms and Holocausts may not be working out quite the way that those political leaders would tend to tell their followers that they are!!!

[Near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm] :

"I asked how God could let the Holocaust of World War II happen. We were transported to a railway station as a long train of freight cars was being unloaded of its human cargo. The guards were screaming and beating the people into submission. The people were Jewish men, women, and children. Exhausted from hunger and thirst, they were totally disoriented from the ordeal of being rounded up and sent on a long journey to an unknown destination. They believed that they were going to work camps, and that their submission to the brutality of the guards was the only way to survive.

We went to the area where the selection process was taking place and heard the guards talking about "the Angel Maker." We went to the place the guards were referring to as "the Angel Maker," which was a series of ovens. I saw piles of naked corpses being loaded into the ovens, and I began to cry. Jesus said to me, "These are the people God loves." Then he said, "Look up." Rising out of the smoke of the chimneys, I saw hundreds of people being met by thousands of angels taking them up into the sky. There was great joy in the faces of the people, and there appeared to be no trace of a memory of the horrendous suffering they had just endured. How ironic that the guards sarcastically called the ovens "the Angel Maker."

I asked how God could allow this to happen. They told me that this was not God's will. This was an abomination to God. God wants this never to happen again. This was the sacrifice of an innocent people to whom God had given the law to be an example, a light, to the rest of the world. This Holocaust was breaking God's heart. The anguish that Jesus was suffering at the slaughter of his people was too much for me to bear and I begged that we leave this place. I will never forget this: his anguish at this horror and what it represents. This was one of the low points in human history."

I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. God had intervened in the world many times before, but this time God was going to change the course of human events." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, page 42,43)
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And... something that those political leaders who organize pogroms or Holocausts will DEFINITELY NOT tell their obedient followers
about..... is that all of us face a LIFE REVIEW with the Being of Light ... who I identify with the G-d of Abraham, YHWH.....
Creator of heaven and earth.

https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

[Near death experiencer Howard Storm, near-death .com] :
3. The Life Review of Howard Storm
Next, they wanted to talk about my life. To my surprise my life played out before me, maybe six or eight feet in front of me, from beginning to end.

The life review was very much in their control, and they showed me my life, but not from my point of view. I saw me in my life and this whole thing was a lesson, even though I didn’t know it at the time. They were trying to teach me something, but I didn’t know it was a teaching experience, because I didn’t know that I would be coming back. We just watched my life from beginning to the end. Some things they slowed down on, and zoomed in on and other things they went right through.

My life was shown in a way that I had never thought of before. All of the things that I had worked to achieve, the recognition that I had worked for, in elementary school, in high school, in college, and in my career, they meant nothing in this setting.
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Being as you have read this far.....
I would like to introduce you to three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater who saw something very similar happening with the three thousand American victims of the
September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the twin towers.

http://pmhatwater.hypermart.net/resources/PDFs/911.pdf

THE CHALLENGE OF SEPTEMBER 11 P. M. H. Atwater http://www.pmhatwater.com

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http://www.pmhatwater.com

prepared in late August, 2002

the challenge of

september 11, a memorial

. . . from the pen and the
heart of p. m. h. atwater, Lh.D. This memorial may
be quoted and used by any- one who is respectful of
what it contains. Just
give proper credits.

P. M. H. Atwater, Lh.D..
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INTRODUCTION

I was there, at least in spirit form, as a witness to what happened during the
attack on America, September 11, 2001. I was doing what I could to help the souls of the dead when the second plane hit. What I witnessed is contained in this small offering as my way of sharing, of adding to the voices across our fair planet who wish somehow to speak up and let others know how "9-11" affected them.

The first version of a book manuscript I had been working on about death
and dying was sitting on the desk of a New York City publisher when the attack occurred. As fate would have it, not only was I in attendance via spirit, but a physical expression of my soul was there as well in the way of the manuscript. And of all subjects, a book about death. I flew up to the City several months later, and have been there on numerous occasions since. My husband and I live two hours from
the Pentagon and were overwhelmed by telephone and e-mail outages and difficulty with mail service for over a month afterward. Many late charges on bills had to
be forgiven as we simply never received the notice of payment due in our mail.

I rewrote the book on death and dying and included in it what I had witness-
ed in spirit form while on the "inner planes" over New York City. Publishers dropped the revision like a "hot potato," as did my then-agent. I was told that the added material would date the book (probably correct), and that the public was not ready
for what I had to say (incorrect). The people of this great nation are more than ready
to hear my sharing, and are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what "rings" true and what doesn't. I lost an agent over this issue, and had to redo the book a
third time. It was finally published as “We Live Forever: The Real Truth About Death.” What was previously censored, though, appears only here - with
enough interpretive material to give it some sense of context and meaning.

Ever since I died three times in 1977, each time having a near-death experi-
ence and later becoming a researcher of near-death states, my books and writings have been devoted for the most part to research findings. I'm still the objective re- searcher I always was; but, from now on, you'll be hearing more and more about the

subjective side of my life in that part of me open to the spirit realms, and to the grandeur of the soul.

Thank you for your kindness and your caring. PMH
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www.near-death.com/

DennisTate · Oct 14, 2023

Palestinians flee northern Gaza after Israel orders 1 million to evacuate as ground attack looms

ISABEL DeBRE, EDITH M. LEDERER and WAFAA SHURAFA
Updated Fri, October 13, 2023, 9:43 PM EDT·7 min read

JERUSALEM (AP) — Palestinians fled in a mass exodus Friday from northern Gaza after Israel’s military told some 1 million people to evacuate to the southern part of the besieged territory ahead of an expected ground invasion in retaliation for the surprise attack by the ruling Hamas militant group.

The U.N. warned that evacuating almost half of crowded Gaza's population would be calamitous, and it urged Israel to reverse the unprecedented directive. As airstrikes hammered the territory throughout the day, families in cars, trucks and donkey carts packed with possessions streamed down a main road out of Gaza City.

Hamas’ media office said warplanes struck cars fleeing south, killing more than 70 people. The Israeli military said its troops conducted temporary raids into Gaza to battle militants and hunted for traces of some 150 people abducted in Hamas's assault on Israel nearly a week ago.
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This whole situation is getting really, really serious.......
so.... i think that it is time to attempt to explain what I think are the almost obvious implications of the Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment that was promoted by Irving Fisher Ph. D. during the Great Depression.... that seemed to play an instrumental role in F.D. R. initiating what came to be called "The New Deal."

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"Well Dennis, I don't even know what the people of my home town want in a politician, so I wouldn't even run in a political election.

What I'm seeing politicians doing now is sending people to online polls via email and phone text, and at the end of the poll they are asked to donate to the candidate, organization, or political party taking the poll. That's a good way to learn stuff while getting donations. " [wgabrie, to political forum .com]
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I believe that people want a political leader who will take risks to improve life for them..... or even to perhaps save their lives...... and I believe that it is impossible to save the lives of a thousand people or more without risking our own lives!!!!!

.........

I got back a fascinating reply to my discussion on
"The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East!"

... and the implications of all this are kind of scary... and remind me of the saying from Mr. Stan Lee..... "With great power.... comes great responsibility!"

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[R.....] ... " Interesting account.
And sure, one can make money off of almost anything, including this knowledge,
as anytime someone writes something, there's a possibility they can sell it.

BUT--(as you appear to like capital letters) YOU PRESENT NO EVIDENCE OR LOGIC INDICATING THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ON EARTH WILL COME THROUGH RICH PEOPLE AND THEIR MONEY.
OK, i'LL ADD THE REQUISITE "!!!!!?????". THERE!!!!!?????

SAME GOES FOR PEACE IN THE HOLY LAND, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS...
Isaiah 60:10-11, 16;
10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you, in favor I will show you compassion.
11 Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night,
so that men may bring you the wealth of the nations--their kings led in triumphal procession.
16 You will drink the milk of nations and be nursed at royal breasts."

HOWEVER, THAT WEALTH COMES INTO PLAY AFTER THE FACT (I.E., SALVATION), AS A RESULT OF THAT SALVATION,
RATHER THAN BEFORE, AS A PART OF SOMETHING CAUSING OR LEADING TO SALVATION.

THE BEATLES WERE RIGHT!!!!???? MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE--OR SALVATION, EITHER.

Writing everything in caps gets wearisome.

However, aside from that, you also wrote the following...
"No wonder the extreme political left want to burn all books that contain information that is NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.....
by 2023 definitions of politically correct!!!!!!!!"

What planet do you live on, Dennis?
It ain't the "extreme political left" who is banning books they don't find to be "politically correct".
It's the extreme political "right" that's doing that!

Are you living your life looking into a mirror that reverses everything?

PLL " [R....]
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Shabbat Shalom R.....

One of my many, many, many, many, many, many...... ^n many.... flaws and errors is that I cannot keep a discussion simple.......

In a way I got this idea from Dr. Gary Smalley in his book "For Better or for Best", he wrote about when a problem or issue comes up in a big company.... the managers will often discuss up to two hundred possible solutions to the problem before finding the solution to that problem that actually works......

I have been advocating modern REPLICAS.... plural..... of what Irving Fisher Ph. D. accomplished in the United States during the Great Depression.... that sure seems to have played an instrumental role in leading to the initiation of the F. D. R. "New Deal."

I have at least three women in mind from the USA and Canada who I know that I know that I know that I know that they could do this......[ no.... four..... no.... five.....]..... [no... six]......

I believe firmly that they have a Queen Hadassah Esther calling on their lives.....

and I believe that I can dump.... OK... transfer more than one hundred percent of "The Mantle of Cyrus" that I was told that I had.... over to these women..... I base the idea of a transfer of a mantle at a ratio of above one hundred percent on the statement by Rabbi and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa.... "greater things than these shall you do!"

I am planning on starting something quite unusual.... I want to campaign for the office of Mayor of Mississauga in the next election..... but.... I am thinking of doing most of my initial campaigning in Brampton.... which is the city that borders on the City of Mississauga.

"Hazel to Mayor Patrick Brown: "Don't think small... market Brampton to the world!""

Jessika Tate | Orações perigosas

On that note... I have a rather funny story to tell you that was told to me by my wife.....
so..... it is almost certain that I will get the story somewhat incorrect but.... it is still kind of funny anyway.

My wife is part of the Pentecostal, Charismatic Catholic and Messianic Jewish community of Quito, Ecuador and
the rumour went around within that community that the Latter day Saints had given up on sending MALE Elders to
Brazil....... because male L.D.S. elders.... were only human and they tended to get into trouble with the amazing women of Brazil.

Here is the story.....
I first wrote to my amazing third wife on August 8, 2000 and Jesus and / or the Holy Spirit somehow told my wife that
I was going to be her second husband..... and Jesus told her that she should fast and pray for me for thirty five days and kick out
the majority of my legion of devils!

So... for three days per week for four weeks my wife would only drink fruit juice and Jesus would wake her up most days very early
and pretty much force her to pray for me before she could go back to sleep......

I was three thousand miles, [five thousand kilometres], north, north, east of her experiencing amazing Shalom and peace of mind for the
first time in a decade... so by October I bought a plane ticked to go to Quito, Ecuador on January 12, 2001. Armed with a couple of months
to get prepared my amazing wife had time to get prepared and she was praying and asking where to put me once I got there......

... She was looking through a Quito, Ecuador newspaper one day and found a room for rent by two Seventh Day Adventist Sisters.... [I am not sure if
the word "sisters' should be taken literally or metaphorically or both ways]..... anyway...... My amazing third wife had learned to really pray and ask if
an idea was a good idea or not..... so she pressed in deeper in prayer and Jesus somehow told my wife..... "Don't put him in there.... he is only human!"

So..... the context of that rather funny story is that....
even deeply religious and even prophetic people are only human...... and we get into trouble.... and we sin.... and we make errors..... sometimes serious errors.....
but..... the calling that is on our lives does not stop......
..... and as long as we will admit to our errors and sins we can use those testimonies to encourage and help others to avoid getting into the trouble that we have gotten into in the past???!!!!

My theory is that when the metaphorical "Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa"....... [and there are at least TEN of them].... so I should have written Brides plural.......
.....
but my theory is that the callings on the flawed and seemingly ordinary people who our Creator is working with......
causes the national debts of all nations to pale into near insignificance in comparison to what our Creator, the G-d of Abraham, YHWH, HaShem... .considers to be the true WEALTH!!!!!

[Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest ] ....
.... "As I approached the Judgment Seat of Christ, those in the highest ranks were also sitting on thrones that were all a part of His throne. Even the least of these thrones was more glorious than any earthly throne many times over. Some of these were rulers over cities on earth who would soon take their place. Others were rulers over the affairs of heaven, and others over the affairs of the physical creation, such as star systems and galaxies. However, it was apparent that those who were given authority over cities were esteemed above those who had even been given authority over galaxies. The value of a single child was more than a galaxy of stars, because the Holy Spirit dwelt in men, and the Lord had chosen men as His eternal dwelling place. In the presence of His glory the whole earth seemed as insignificant as a speck of dust, and yet was so infinitely esteemed that the attention of the whole host of heaven was upon it.

Now that I stood before the throne, I felt very much less than a speck of dust. Even so, I felt the Holy Spirit upon me in a greater way than I ever had. It was by His power alone that I was able to stand. It was here that I truly came to understand His ministry as our Comforter. He had led me through the entire journey even though I had hardly noticed Him.

The Lord was both more gentle and more terrible than I had ever imagined. In Him I saw Wisdom who had accompanied me up the mountain, and felt the familiarity of many of my friends on earth. I recognized Him as the One I had heard speaking to me many times through others. I also recognized Him as the One that I had often rejected when He had come to me in others. I saw both a Lion and a Lamb, the Shepherd and the Bridegroom, but most of all I saw Him here as the Judge.

Even in His awesome presence, the Comforter was so mightily with me I was comfortable. It was also apparent that the Lord in no way wanted me to be uncomfortable; He only wanted me to know the truth. Human words are not adequate to describe either how awesome, or how relieving it was to stand before the Lord. I had passed the point where I was concerned if the judgment was going to be good or bad; I just knew it would be right, and that I could trust my Judge.

At one point the Lord looked toward the galleries of thrones around Him. Many were occupied by saints, and many were empty. He then said, "These thrones are for the overcomers who have served Me faithfully in every generation. My Father and I prepared them before the foundation of the world. Are you worthy to sit in one of these?"

I remembered what a friend had once said, "When an omniscient God asks you a question, it is not because He is seeking information." I looked at the thrones. I looked at those who were now seated. I could recognize some of the great heroes of the faith, but most of those seated I knew had not even been well known on earth. Many I knew had been missionaries who had expended their lives in obscurity. They had never cared to be remembered on earth, but only to Him. I was a bit surprised to see some who had been wealthy, or rulers who had been faithful with what they had been given. However, it seemed that faithful, praying women and mothers occupied more thrones than any other single group.

There was no way that I could answer "yes" to the Lord's question if I considered myself worthy to sit here. I was not worthy to sit in the company of any who were there. I knew I had been given the opportunity to run for the greatest prize in heaven or earth, and I had failed. I was desperate, but there was still one hope. Even though most of my life had been a failure, I knew that I was here before I had finished my life on earth. When I confessed that I was not worthy, He asked:

"But do you want this seat?"

"I do with all of my heart," I responded." [Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest]
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So now you have some more of the context for what I wrote here.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...on-to-the-world.612214/page-3#post-1074475789

NOW please CONTRAST LOOKING AT ONE HUMAN LIFE AS HAVING SOMETHING LIKE INFINITE VALUE TO OUR CREATOR...... and / or The Being of Light of near death experience fame.... .with a certain computer genius telling us back in 2010 that each human life has not merely extremely low value.... but actually NEGATIVE value and the world population needed to be REDUCED from six point eight billion down to two or three billion through vaccines and legal abortions and... and.... and.... and........

DennisTate · Oct 14, 2023

Wow!!!!!

In my opinion this video is a sign that the entire Middle East peace formula IS ABOUT TO CHANGE TOWARD THE BETTER!!!!!!

The Son of Hamas FULL VERSION!!!

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¨Rejecting what i am in this book was a lot more dangerous and challenging than hanging out in a room full of explosives and suicide bombers.¨
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I could be wrong about this....
I often am wrong but I am wondering if this trend for former terrorists to change their ways may soon lead to
the fulfillment of an ancient Islamic prediction:

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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Back in 2005 to 2008 I was thinking that mega-scale desalination of sea water would be the way that deserts would be turned green but.... no..... I was wrong......
there is even a shift in the very climate that is also setting in motion the fulfillment of Isaiah chapter thirty five.

HOW Is This POSSIBLE in 2023? Deserts become rivers, floods in Saudi Arabia.

35 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God.

3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.

4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.

5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

......
What you may not be aware of is that there is an ancient Islamic prediction for the Last Hour that seems to fit perfectly with Isaiah chapter thirty five.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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..... To some degree should the people who try to obey Messiah and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus - Issa and give credit to Muslims for this one paragraph that sure does put forward a more practical and down to earth way to begin to stabilize the environment than the DIVISIVE CARBON TAX that was explained by Mr. Al Gore in his film "An Inconvenient Truth."

"Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver theeto the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, andthou be cast into prison." (Matthew 5:25)

A New Mexico biologist and bicycling coach has explained this in very practical terms.

New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell.....

"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect

We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).
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DennisTate · Oct 15, 2023

Yant0s said: ↑

I don't think allowing Andrew Tate to come up with a solution is the answer. I simply don't think he is qualified in solving the Palestine/Israel crisis .
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When I gave this thread a title it never crossed my mind that some people might assume
that Andrew Tate had came up with this idea but.....

the fact that we have the same last name is intriguing. What if Andrew Tate read this thread..... liked at least some of these options.... got together with Ms. Candace Owens and with this guy......
.....

Hamas Founder's Son Is Shocked By Abuse-Leaves Islam | Mosab Hassan Yousef, Joel Rosenberg Interview

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Hamas founder's son is shocked by the abuse practice and leaves Islam, Joel C. Rosenberg has the interview. Mosab Hassan Yousef, the oldest son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef who was a founding member of Hamas, shares the compelling testimony of how Jesus Christ intervened directly into his life and changed everything. Joel Rosenberg this week revisits a recording from Mosab Hassan Yousef - 2010 – Philadelphia, PA Topics: Joel Rosenberg 2021, Joel Rosenberg Latest, Inside The Epicenter With Joel C. Rosenberg
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... and started doing interviews and put some of the aspects of this out to a huge audience quickly!

One of the most interesting ways to address the Israeli - Palestinian conflict is the case that can be presented that the bulk of the Palestinians may well be the grandchildren of the Messianic Jewish community of the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt WHO DID NOT JOIN IN THE BAR KOCHBA REVOLT....AND THUS... WHEN ROME CRUSHED THE REVOLT... .THE MESSIANIC JEWISH COMMUNITY OF THE HOLY LAND WAS NOT KICKED OUT OF THE AREA OF JERUSALEM. Most of their grandchildren were forced to convert to Islam..... or die...... and then later on the Russians come up with the idea of investing huge amounts of money into the leaders within the Palestinians, [like Yassar Arafat], who will say and teach whatever they tell them to teach if they pay them enough money to teach it!!!

Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

DennisTate said: ↑

Because Orthodox Jewish scholars firmly believe in the restoration of the lost tribes of Israel this new genetic research that indicates that the Palestinians are "Jewish" may play a significant role in genuine peace coming between Israelis and Palestinians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

"Tsvi Misinai claims that the majority of the Palestinian people including those with Israeli citizenship or residency, known variously as Arab citizens of Israel, Arab Israelis, Israeli Arabs, including the Bedouin Arabs of Israelare descendants of the ancient Hebrews, as most of the world's Jewish ethnic divisions are.[6] Furthermore, he claims that at least half of them are quietly aware of this fact.[7]

According to Misinai, unlike the ancestors of the modern day Jews who were city dwellers to a large extent, the Hebrew ancestors of the Palestinians were rural dwellers, and were allowed to remain in the land of Israel to work the land and supply Rome with grain and olive oil."

Misinai states the topic of Hebrew origin was spoken of openly by Palestinians until relatively recent history, much as the Egyptians or Lebanese are aware of their origin in the ancient Egyptians and Phoenicians respectively, even if the topic arouses the passions of those wishing to stress or de-emphasise it." (Wikipedia.org)

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm
"And Elias the prophet stood up, as a fire, and his word burnt like a torch................Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. [9] Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. [10] Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob."
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I believe that the Messianic Jewish community of the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt could well have number around four hundred thousand people!!!

"The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.

The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).

The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.

History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish." [ Sid Roth from his book The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65)

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I just heard another astonishingly good public speaker with the last name Tate who I now am hoping gets attracted to this discussion and may become involved.

Jessika Tate: Women in Ministry, PTSD, and Creative Healings

Personally I thought that Andrew Tate's interview with Ms. Canadace Owens was awesome... I loved how he talked about his dad who was a chess grandmaster and obviously brilliant. It seems to me that he is improving and growing as a person and learning to change his ways... which is something that I also believe that we can all do....... and that we must do...... I even believe that Bill Gates can do repentance, teshuvah and become a better and better person.

Andrew Tate vs Piers Morgan | The Full Interview

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Controversial social media figure Andrew Tate joins Piers Morgan Uncensored for one of the most anticipated interviews of the year. Piers wanted to find out who the real Andrew Tate is after 'King of Toxic Masculinity' was de-platformed from social media for his inflammatory views. In this full length, uncut and uncensored talk they discuss love, marriage, mental health, fame and much, much more. Subscribe to stay up-to-date on all Uncensored content.
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DennisTate · Oct 16, 2023

Perhaps I owe a Rosh ha Shanah type of apology to all nine point four million Israelis.....
I asked a question several years ago that has rather huge implications......

How can we stop the rockets from landing on Sderot, Israel?

... but I gave my own full answer to this question over in another seemingly unrelated discussion........

... forcing the most well informed readers to read and read and read and read and read some more of my ramblings!?

At 35,753 views....
my tactic did succeed?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-elijah-needed.499830/page-3#post-1067329856

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But she is my great, great, great, great .... granddaughter from one or more of my probable
past lives....... .and like the fallen son of G-d Azazel........
I am confident that the words of Rabbi Nachman will eventually be fulfilled in her
life.

Rabbi Nachman of Breslov has given teachings that set the stage for the Jewish people to
forgive their great, great, great...... gandfather Adam.......
for being deceived... .and getting them into so much trouble.......

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

I believe it was in 1994 when I first noticed a possible connection between myself and
the patriarch Adam..............
I have zero memories of any past life..... .but I do have a mole
that could be a hint.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

Chapter 69
"Twelfth apparition of Satan to Adam and Eve, while Adam was praying over the offering on the altar; when Satan beat him.

1 Then Satan, the hater of all good, envious of Adam and of his offering through which he found favor with God, hastened and took a sharp stone from among the sharp iron stones; appeared in the form of a man, and went and stood by Adam and Eve. 2 Adam was then offering on the altar, and had begun to pray, with his hands spread before God. 3 Then Satan hastened with the sharp iron stone he had with him, and with it pierced Adam on the right side, from which flowed blood and water, then Adam fell on the altar like a corpse. And Satan fled. 4 Then Eve came, and took Adam and placed him below the altar. And there she stayed, crying over him; while a stream of blood flowed from Adam's side over his offering. 5 But God looked at the death of Adam. He then sent His Word, and raised him up and said to him, "Fulfill your offering, for indeed, Adam, it is worth much, and there is no shortcoming in it." (The Book of Adam and Eve)

I was reading The Book of Adam and Eve.... came to chapter 69.......
I looked down at my right side and saw that I have a rather large mole there that
could perhaps correspond with this event from six millennia or so in the past.

Nothing definite.... but this began to get me thinking.

https://near-death.com/ian-stevenson/

3. Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons
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So what I am thinking of is a legal drama starring ideally Alan Dershowitz.... as himself.... and he sues me...... DennisTate.......
......
for an infinite amount of debt based on the possibility that Noah was my great, great, great... grandson........ and I might perhaps be the idiot who in a way is responsible for ever drop of innocent blood shed on the earth in the past six millennia.... linear time anyway?????!!!

Then I donate the proceeds towards paying off the national debt of Israel.... and the USA... and Canada... and The Netherlands... and Australia... and New Zealand.... and that is just the opening gambit..... mid game and end game get quite interesting indeed!

My Rosh ha Shanah apology to you all

DennisTate said: ↑

I am of the belief that my over -soul has lived again and again and again......
In one sense my over- soul is separate from me.... but it is legitimate that
I take responsibility for my own sins from my probable........
or at least surely possible past lives.

If all of my sins of co-mission and omission.... from all of my probable past lives was added up....... my guilt would be off the scale heavy to carry........

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
Chapter 5, Christian Andreason:
... "I saw that I had been both wealthy and poor, man and woman, sick and well, royalty and common personand even victor or villain Yet, I fully understood that each life was vital and going on for a much needed purpose.

Every lifetime, I learned, is orchestrated by our guides and the Elders to flow perfectly with one anotherteaching us something important about life, the Self, the Self of others, our Creator and the potential that exists within the Super Universe that surrounds us all. For the first time I had a comforting sense of trust that no matter what happened to a person in life, only good could ultimately come from it, as down the road God eternally works all things to a good end." Christian Andreason, chapter five]
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Actually... I was wrong... what is on my right side is actually a birthmark.... not merely a mole?????!!!!

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